Fr Joe

[Monkfish]

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Limerick-priest-wants-young-people.5750473.jp

Shocked that this guy is still a priest, assumed that even the church would have got rid of him. Anyway, hopefully this internet thread in his honour wont send us all to hell (unlike him)

[John83]

I love articles like that. I wonder if there are centuries old encyclicals warning young folk against the dangers of reading, or later ones complaining about the effects automobiles were having on society, the religious equivalent of this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/100-years-of-big-content-fearing-technologyin-its-own-words.ars.

[pineapple stu]

He has a point, in fairness. The headline is completely overstating the point he's making. Social skills are shot to pieces because people think communicating involves doing what I'm doing right now. We're social creatures, and in the space of a decade, we've replaced social interaction with staring at words on a computer screen.

(Is this the first thread ever that should be moved from the Limerick forum to Current Affairs?)

[John83]

He has a point, in fairness. The headline is completely overstating the point he's making. Social skills are shot to pieces because people think communicating involves doing what I'm doing right now. We're social creatures, and in the space of a decade, we've replaced social interaction with staring at words on a computer screen.

(Is this the first thread ever that should be moved from the Limerick forum to Current Affairs?)
People haven't stopped interacting in person. We can debate the point later in the pub.

I tend to bring up an old quote in discussions like this:
"Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book." - Cicero, c.70 B.C.

[Monkfish]

(Is this the first thread ever that should be moved from the Limerick forum to Current Affairs?)

Maybe it should, but I put it here giving the mans history with Limerick FC and the fact that many of us on usually dont bother with the rest of the site.

[pineapple stu]

People haven't stopped interacting in person. We can debate the point later in the pub.
People really have stopped interacting to a good degree. As back-up for my theory, I'll use the fact that you never brought the point up in the pub. :)

[francesco_1]

I was at a funeral about two months ago and he said the same thing it made lots of sense, he was talking about kids getting depressed and not talking to anyone face to face, they are rather hiding away using bebo and txt'n and not getting help instead these kids were turning to drugs, what ever his history with Limerick fc he has done an awful lot of good work in the southill area in the 80's and 90's.

[John83]

Kids hid depression long before Bebo*. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if cutting off interaction with people formed part of the clinical diagnosis.

Blaming the drugs problem on the internet is ridiculous. I don't think there's the slightest correlation between the two.


*before Bebo sounds like a terrifying new calendar system.

[Monkfish]

he has done an awful lot of good work in the southill area in the 80's and 90's.

Put a smile on many a lonely housewife apparantly. :eek:

[oscar]

how many little joe's are running around up there now

[jaorta]

[QUOTE=Monkfish;

Shocked that this guy is still a priest, assumed that even the church would have got rid of him. Anyway, hopefully this internet thread in his honour wont send us all to hell (unlike him)[/QUOTE]put a smile on many a lonely housewife apparently[QUOTE]

Obviously monkfish has a major axe to grind with this priest.What fr Joe says(when taken on its own merits)makes perfect sense.If he has something to get off his chest he should be more manly and say it out.He should go for a cup of coffee with the father and stop spending so much time textin and on the computer......

[pineapple stu]

Blaming the drugs problem on the internet is ridiculous. I don't think there's the slightest correlation between the two.
I don't think you can dismiss it as lightly as that.

It's obviously hard to examine changes before Bebo and after Bebo (Anno Bebo?), the more so because people tend to come at it from their own viewpoint and don't appreciate a position where Bebo is taken as given. Without being bothered to do any googling, the one thing that comes to mind is the introduction of TV to Bhutan in 1999. Links to (slightly old) articles in the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2003/jun/14/weekend7.weekend2) and on the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3812275.stm), for example.

(BTW - I don't think your Cicero quote is relevant here. Parents have always complained about children becoming increasingly rebellious and the like. But that's not what the issue is here)

[John83]

I don't think that example is relevant. TV is a broadcast medium. Bebo is a communications tool. Regardless, that's not the point. He's making the claim, and has nothing to back it up with. I don't have to disprove it. The fact that it's a claim consisting of (a) personal speculation, which is about as reliable as reading tea leaves and distressingly common (http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/) and (b) an old person talking ****e about a new technology (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/100-years-of-big-content-fearing-technologyin-its-own-words.ars).

The quote is relevant because crotchety people have always been saying that society is going to hell in a hand-basket.

[pineapple stu]

I don't think that example is relevant. TV is a broadcast medium. Bebo is a communications tool.
They're different in that sense, but in the sense that they're replacing social interaction with staring at boxes, they're similar.

[John83]

That's a big assumption. In my experience, they're mostly replacing work with staring at boxe... never mind.

[LK37oldskool]

:confused: this is gettin weird

[oscar]

Obviously monkfish has a major axe to grind with this priest.What fr Joe says(when taken on its own merits)makes perfect sense.If he has something to get off his chest he should be more manly and say it out.He should go for a cup of coffee with the father and stop spending so much time textin and on the computer......

could monkfish possibly be the spawn of the curly one:p

[jaorta]

could monkfish possibly be the spawn of the curly one:p

Oscar,:o i think you just hit the nail on the head my good man....

[Monkfish]

put a smile on many a lonely housewife apparently[QUOTE]

He should go for a cup of coffee with me so I can comfort him

Told you before im not interested! :p

[jaorta]

;)What if we do the roll playing like last time.You the priest and me the lonely housewife?
You know that is why you call yourself MONKfish after all (or maybe after dad)ggrrr

[Monkfish]

You know that is why you call yourself MONKfish after all

Not at all.
It stems from a crazy night in Lisbon.

Im saying no more.

[oscar]

jaorta's explanation seems more realistic to me:p