Euro 2012 draw [Archive] - Page 2

elroy

20/01/2010, 2:13 PM

7th Feb.... The draw is on a Sunday? Is it not usually a Friday? Strange.... hopefully it is more than just SSN (I don't have it at home).

Your thinking of CL draws.

Although the WC draw was on a friday last year.

You can be sure the draw will be on Eurosport and maybe Setanta, no chance of it on rte, but maybe on their website.

DeLorean

20/01/2010, 2:16 PM

Your thinking of CL draws.

Although the WC draw was on a friday last year.

You can be sure the draw will be on Eurosport and maybe Setanta, no chance of it on rte, but maybe on their website.

Why's that?

Jicked

20/01/2010, 3:37 PM

We're due to get England. We've not been in their group since '92 qualifiers.

Trapattoni v. Capello. These draws often throws up games like that, just as we ended up with Italy in our group right after we appoint an Italian coaching team. I've a feeling we get England or France in our group, hopefully France.

elroy

20/01/2010, 6:08 PM

Why's that?

When was the last time rte showed any qualifying campaign draw live??? I certainly cant remember and it def didnt happen for WC2010 or Euro 2008.

France would be one hell of a draw to get, dare I say it I think we would all want to beat France more than if we drew England. Problem is Monsieur Domenech is unlikely to be in charge post this WC.

Deckydee

21/01/2010, 6:39 AM

Yep, its a Sunday alright:

The draw for the UEFA Euro 2012 qualifying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying) round will take place in Warsaw on 7 February 2010

twoenz

21/01/2010, 10:36 AM

That's unbelievable!! I had just become a bit fanatical about soccer in the months before that qualifying campaign, suppose the '90 WC really although I had little interest at the beginning of the tournament. I remember the general consensus was that we had blown it after that draw though, as we had already played England twice. After the 3-3 in Poland though there were some saying that we were better off having blown the lead, as Poland still had a slight chance of progress and therefore would try harder against England in the final match. We were by far the best team in the group, trashing Turkey twice while England scraped two fortunate 1-0's, with the Turks hitting the bar at Wembley. We also completely dominated at Wembley, I'll never forget the spell of pressure for the 10-15mins before Quinn's equaliser. Moran also had a goal disallowed against Poland in the 0-0, foul on the keeper I think, or so the ref said.

Same as. I was at my first Ireland match when we drew with England in Landsdowne. Wednesday afternoon, 3 o clock kick off. I still remember the goals being different to any other stadium; they had a wee white patch on each side in the netting. It was the only time I ever sat in the old stand.

DeLorean

21/01/2010, 11:33 AM

When was the last time rte showed any qualifying campaign draw live??? I certainly cant remember and it def didnt happen for WC2010 or Euro 2008.

France would be one hell of a draw to get, dare I say it I think we would all want to beat France more than if we drew England. Problem is Monsieur Domenech is unlikely to be in charge post this WC.

Yeah I remember RT� used to show all the draws live at one stage but wasn't sure if they did in recent years. I honestly think that we would have a better chance of taking points off England than France, and more importantly challenging to top the group. I find it difficult to invisage topping a group with France in it, especially seeing as they'll probably be under new management. I don't think the whole 'revenge' thing will count for much by then to be honest.

Same as. I was at my first Ireland match when we drew with England in Landsdowne. Wednesday afternoon, 3 o clock kick off. I still remember the goals being different to any other stadium; they had a wee white patch on each side in the netting. It was the only time I ever sat in the old stand.

I remember I was coming home from school so my dad was taping the match for me and I was waiting til it was over to watch it in full, without knowing the score. He switched over to RT� 1 before putting it on for me so that I wouldn't hear the boys talking about it. Damn Live@3 was on one and they were just getting a report from Lansdowne and I caught the 1-1 scoreline at the bottom of the screen, sickener. Could have been worse I suppose had it not been for Big Cas!!

DeLorean

22/01/2010, 3:36 PM

Does anybody know what time this draw is kicking off? or even if it's the morning or the evening?

mypost

22/01/2010, 5:48 PM

Yep, its a Sunday alright:

The draw for the UEFA Euro 2012 qualifying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying) round will take place in Warsaw on 7 February 2010

Most of the international qualifying draws are on Sundays, though it does vary sometimes.

On a different issue, I really think they leave the Euro draw incredibly late, just 7 months before it begins. It should be held no later than December, and the fixtures arranged by now. As it is, it's probably going to be Easter at least before we know when we're playing whoever. :mad:

stiffler

23/01/2010, 5:37 PM

Hope we get the dutch, will be a good chance to get away to the 'dam

Deckydee

24/01/2010, 12:22 PM

Same as. I was at my first Ireland match when we drew with England in Landsdowne. Wednesday afternoon, 3 o clock kick off. I still remember the goals being different to any other stadium; they had a wee white patch on each side in the netting. It was the only time I ever sat in the old stand.

Funny too how they used to have matches at that time. We watched it at school. Our primary school teacher brought in a TV for us to see it.

This was the match at Wembly - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaoINmqR1Vw&feature=related

Cant find the one at Landsdowne. If someone has it on video.....:o

SuperDave

24/01/2010, 7:05 PM

Most of the international qualifying draws are on Sundays, though it does vary sometimes.

On a different issue, I really think they leave the Euro draw incredibly late, just 7 months before it begins. It should be held no later than December, and the fixtures arranged by now. As it is, it's probably going to be Easter at least before we know when we're playing whoever. :mad:

Either way, get your flights to Stansted booked cheap when the away fixtures are announced.... always easy to get on from there.

carloz

24/01/2010, 7:24 PM

Hope we get the dutch, will be a good chance to get away to the 'dam

There are much nicer cities I would like to get to that Amsterdam. Like most irish fans, I am praying for France. Not just for pay back, but simply because i think they are arguably the poorest of the top seeds. Plus everyone loves Paris

pineapple stu

24/01/2010, 7:59 PM

On a different issue, I really think they leave the Euro draw incredibly late, just 7 months before it begins. It should be held no later than December, and the fixtures arranged by now. As it is, it's probably going to be Easter at least before we know when we're playing whoever. :mad:
Cos you'd never be able to arrange a holiday in just a mere six or seven months.

Sometimes I think you sit down and actively wonder what you can moan over.

mypost

24/01/2010, 8:29 PM

Cos you'd never be able to arrange a holiday in just a mere six or seven months.

Sometimes I think you sit down and actively wonder what you can moan over.

We're Irish. Moaning is part of our DNA.

When do you want the draw to be made? After the fraudulent World Cup? The week of the first game? :confused:

What's the wait for? Just get on with it. The WC qualifiers are done by Christmas, so that's when the draw should be.

pineapple stu

25/01/2010, 9:12 AM

I have no problems with it on 7 Feb.

You moan about 1000000 times more than anyone I have ever come across, mostly about nonsense. I don't think you can pass it off as DNA.

Deckydee

25/01/2010, 10:30 AM

Anyone know what time?

I guess it will be on Eurosport at least

newrynyuk

25/01/2010, 11:13 AM

11am. And it is indeed live on Europsport.

elroy

25/01/2010, 11:41 AM

11am. And it is indeed live on Europsport.

Just to add to the moaning........god its on early for a sunday morning! :D

DeLorean

25/01/2010, 2:58 PM

It is live from 10:45 on Sky Sports News and 11:00 on Eurosport.

Live Football Schedule (http://www.samsungfootball.co.uk/football-on-tv/)

mypost

25/01/2010, 3:41 PM

You moan about 1000000 times more than anyone I have ever come across.

The above of course, is nonsense.

pineapple stu

25/01/2010, 3:47 PM

mypost moans again...

Deckydee

26/01/2010, 10:42 AM

Anywho, last night I had a dream and now I can predict our group:

England
Slovakia
Republic of Ireland
Lithuania
Estonia
Andorra

Razors left peg

26/01/2010, 11:33 AM

Anywho, last night I had a dream and now I can predict our group:

England
Slovakia
Republic of Ireland
Lithuania
Estonia
Andorra

Id take that

mypost

01/02/2010, 3:39 PM

As nicked from elsewhere

And only Germany's group finished in order of seeding.

Here are the seeding pots and where the teams actually finished in their groups:

Are the seeding pots in that post, now confirmed, or do we have to wait for an official announcement later in the week?

SuperDave

01/02/2010, 6:05 PM

Confirmed a long time ago. In fact, pretty much as soon as the world cup playoffs were over, as they had a fairly clear seeding system in place that made it easy to work out. They make their minds up in time, uefa. Unlike fifa of course. They have however confirmed that the playoffs will be seeded and that the seeds will be at home in the second leg. The pots were listed somewhere earlier on in this thread.

mypost

02/02/2010, 12:32 PM

No Norn Iron, no Scotland, and no Bulgaria from the last group.

Pot 3: Israel, Bulgaria, Finland, Norway, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Austria, Bosnia-Herzegovina

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/news/newsid=921965.html

elroy

02/02/2010, 1:19 PM

IMO, pot two and four are the key pots from our perspective.

Hibernian

02/02/2010, 2:14 PM

Group I love
Holland/Portugal
Czech Republic
Rep Of ireland
Wales
Liechtenstein
Andorra

Please No:
Spain
Serbia
Ireland
Slovenia
Montenegro
Azerbaijan

Not only woud I fancy us doing well in first group I also think they be pretty decent places to go on away trip i.e Amersterdam Prague and Cardiff who turn these places down.

Czech Republic are overrated team and have been for past 5 years. Dont want get Spain as there just too dam god good. Serbia I expect to get even stronger as national side. Slovenia would be a total disatser as fourth seed in fact I go as far say I be more afraid of them then I would some of the second seeds.

Serb

02/02/2010, 2:21 PM

I don't know about Slovenia, but I'd agree that if we got Serbia as our second seed, it would make for a very tough group. I wouldn't be overly worried about any of the other second seeds. They're strong enough teams, but I'd fancy 3 or 4 points against most of them.

IsMiseSean

02/02/2010, 9:56 PM

Wouldn't mind getting Sweden from a football and travel point of view...

Deckydee

03/02/2010, 6:32 AM

Just a matter of days to draw now. Getting excited :cool:

TheBoss

03/02/2010, 1:27 PM

shakermaker1982

03/02/2010, 2:43 PM

I want France or England.

Bored of seeing Cyprus.

zenokelly

03/02/2010, 4:30 PM

Two teams I'd want to avoid from a travel point of view are Wales and Cyprus, better places to see than returning to them 2 places. We've done so much of central Europe at this stage, a Baltic or Scandinavian away would be nice.

The pot we really need to be concerned about is POT 2, and slightly less POT 4 and POT 1. The other 2 pots should not have much influence on the group, and if we asay draw Montenegro from POT 5, it'll be tough for the rest of the teams in the group as well so shouldn't be a problem.

Paulie

03/02/2010, 4:49 PM

If Ireland avoid these teams, I would be really happy, not many great sides out there, we would have a decent of winning the group.

Pot 1: Spain, Germany
Pot 2: Serbia, Romania
Pot 4: Belgium
Pot 5: Montenegro
Pot 6: None

I wouldn't mind Romania as a second seed. They were awful in their last campaign coming in at second last behind both Lithuania and Austria. I know that traditionally they are pretty strong but they are obviously not too great at the moment.

dan o d

03/02/2010, 4:52 PM

romania will probably be without adrian mutu aswell, because of his recent positive drugs test

Jicked

03/02/2010, 5:09 PM

Wasn't it for a non-performance enhancing appetite suppressant this time? Would be surprised if he's out for two years on the back of that!

irishultra

03/02/2010, 8:56 PM

hahha i don't want that feeling i had in 1997 when belgium played ireland so i really hope 'we' don't get 'us' lol.

support belgium in dublin and ireland in brussels :D

TheBoss

03/02/2010, 11:25 PM

I wouldn't mind Romania as a second seed. They were awful in their last campaign coming in at second last behind both Lithuania and Austria. I know that traditionally they are pretty strong but they are obviously not too great at the moment.

They completely under achieved, they are a tough team to beat when they get their act together and will want to prove themselves, they really should have threaten France and Serbia and are good enough although if Mutu is suspended, that would be a massive loss for them.

Talking of Belgium, they have a real foundation for a great team in the future, it would not be good news to get them at all.

irishultra

03/02/2010, 11:43 PM

thats true but they said that last time and they were craapppp:mad:

Deckydee

04/02/2010, 6:23 AM

.....The draw for the Euro 2012 qualifying stages takes place in Warsaw this Sunday morning at 11am, with live coverage on RTE Two television and online at www.rte.ie (http://www.rte.ie/live), hosted by Peter Collins with studio analysis from John Giles and Kenny Cunningham.

Paulie

04/02/2010, 12:55 PM

They completely under achieved, they are a tough team to beat when they get their act together and will want to prove themselves, they really should have threaten France and Serbia and are good enough although if Mutu is suspended, that would be a massive loss for them.

Talking of Belgium, they have a real foundation for a great team in the future, it would not be good news to get them at all.

The point though is that while they should have done better, they didn't. They can only be judged on their form, which as I previously outlined, was very poor in their last campaign. When you consider who we could get out of pot two, there is no doubt that at this moment, Romania would have to be regarded as one of the easier draws.

I think you're right about Belgium though. Of the 4th seeds I wouldn't want them, Slovenia or Cyprus.

Deckydee

04/02/2010, 2:13 PM

I wonder if Timofte is still playing for them!! :D:D

What was the name of that keeper again?

OwlsFan

04/02/2010, 2:41 PM

If Ireland avoid these teams, I would be really happy, not many great sides out there, we would have a decent of winning the group.

Pot 1: Spain, Germany
Pot 2: Serbia, Romania
Pot 4: Belgium
Pot 5: Montenegro
Pot 6: None

God love the optimists! I may be mistaken but I think we have only once ever topped our group and that was for Euro 88. Not sure we could top our group in a group like Italy/Portugal/Holland, England/Russia/Turkey and Slovakia/Bosniia . So, for example, if we draw Italy, England and Slovakia you'd still be reasonably optimistic that, not only would we qualify, but that we would top our group?

pineapple stu

04/02/2010, 2:47 PM

I wonder if Timofte is still playing for them!! :D:D

What was the name of that keeper again?
Silviu Lung. He was 37 or 28 at the time, I think.

Never realised Timofte played against St Pat's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Timofte) a couple of months after the penalty.

Manager of CF Bralia in the Romanian third division now.

mypost

04/02/2010, 5:44 PM

God love the optimists! I may be mistaken but I think we have only once ever topped our group and that was for Euro 88. Not sure we could top our group in a group like Italy/Portugal/Holland, England/Russia/Turkey and Slovakia/Bosniia . So, for example, if we draw Italy, England and Slovakia you'd still be reasonably optimistic that, not only would we qualify, but that we would top our group?

Can't get Bosnia.