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wallis
06/10/2009, 2:45 PM
If we have someone booked against Italy and they are already on a yellow then I guess they get a one match ban against Montenegro ?

What if someone is on a yellow and is booked against Montenegro - do they miss the home leg of the playoffs ?

Have UEFA said whether or not all bookings are wiped out before the play offs ? I didnt think they wiped them last time.

Who do we have on one yellow ?

SuperDave
06/10/2009, 3:00 PM
If we have someone booked against Italy and they are already on a yellow then I guess they get a one match ban against Montenegro ?

What if someone is on a yellow and is booked against Montenegro - do they miss the home leg of the playoffs ?

Have UEFA said whether or not all bookings are wiped out before the play offs ? I didnt think they wiped them last time.

Who do we have on one yellow ?

they'd definitely miss the montenegro game if they got booked v italy.... dunno beyond that..... i'll do some research and get back to you.

Edit: the following players have one booking:

McGeady (Cyprus H)
Given (Cyprus H)
Andrews (Georgia H)
McShane (Italy A)
Whelan (Bulgaria A)
Folan (Cyprus A)

Can't find anything re: carry-over into the playoffs..... i'd imagine they do carry over though unless specifically legislated for except this from the disciplinary code:


Article 38
Carrying over match suspensions
1. As a general rule, every match suspension (of players and other persons)
is carried over from one round to the next in the same competition.
2. Match suspensions in relation to an expulsion pronounced on a player
outside of a competition (separate match[es]) or not served during
the competition for which they were intended (elimination or the last
match in the competition) are carried over as follows:
a) FIFA World Cup™: carried over to the representative team’s
subsequent official match;
b) competitions subject to an age limit: carried over to the representative
team’s next offi cial match in the same age group. Where the
suspension cannot be served in the same age group, it shall be
carried over to the next highest age category;
c) FIFA Confederations Cup: carried over to the representative team’s
next offi cial match;
d) FIFA Club World Cup: carried over to club competitions at
confederation level;
e) confederation competitions for representative teams: carried over
to the representative team’s next official match in a competition
organised by FIFA;
f) competitions in which teams have been chosen in accordance
with certain criteria (cultural, geographical, historical etc.): if the
regulations of these competitions refer to the FIFA regulations
for disciplinary sanctions, the suspension is carried over to the
representative team’s next offi cial match;
g) friendly matches: carried over to the representative team’s next
friendly match.

I assume that means any suspension or card would carry over?

AidoP
06/10/2009, 3:08 PM
I think FIFA will probably wait and see if any of the players from the "so called" bigger countries get booked and look like missing a potential play-off leg before they decide if the yellow/red cards carry over to the play-offs.

SuperDave
06/10/2009, 3:20 PM
I think FIFA will probably wait and see if any of the players from the "so called" bigger countries get booked and look like missing a potential play-off leg before they decide if the yellow/red cards carry over to the play-offs.

Sorry, 36 and 37 are better:


Article 36 Carrying over cautions

1. Cautions received during one competition are not carried over to
another competition.
2. They are, however, carried over from one round to the next in the
same competition. The Disciplinary Committee may exceptionally
depart from this rule before the start of a particular competition. This
provision is subject to art. 37.

Article 37 Cancellation of cautions

1. Upon its own initiative or at the request of a confederation, the
Disciplinary Committee may cancel cautions that have not resulted in
an expulsion so as to restore the balance among several teams that
have not played the same number of matches during the fi rst round
of a competition, or in other exceptional circumstances.
2. In any case, the committee may do this only once in any competition.
3. The Disciplinary Committee’s decision is fi nal.

So the disciplinary committee have the power to do this.... i don't know if they have or not.

wallis
06/10/2009, 8:10 PM
I fear that Aidop is going to be right. No doubt that UEFA will bend and break every rule to get their star teams and players through.

Cant wait for the point where they suddenly decide to seed the play offs to try and save germany/russia, portugal , france , ukraine.

A loss of Given would be a hammer blow.

philliyk
06/10/2009, 8:14 PM
I think FIFA will probably wait and see if any of the players from the "so called" bigger countries get booked and look like missing a potential play-off leg before they decide if the yellow/red cards carry over to the play-offs.

Totally agree, what you reckon 89th min when are Ireland 3-1 up:D:D should Shay take the booking just in case??? I reckon he should

AidoP
07/10/2009, 5:40 AM
Totally agree, what you reckon 89th min when are Ireland 3-1 up:D:D should Shay take the booking just in case??? I reckon he should

I think he should do it but dont go and tell the world that he did it deliberately like Beckham did after he intentionally got booked against Wales I think it was in the last world cup qualifiers so he would miss the next game against one of the minnows in the group and would then be available for the game against Poland. To top it all off he said that people think hes stupid but doing what he did proves hes not. Dooooooh