Tonight's Troubling Story

[Réiteoir]

Once I had a modicum of respect for Rovers - having known a couple of their more "rounded fans" (dfx and Juz to name two)

But after tonight - my views have been set in stone unfortunately.

I hope that club and it's scumbag following who feel it's perfectly fine to assault a Match Official with a missile are well and truly proud of their scumbag following tonight.

If they - God forbid - win the League by 3 or less points this season - then they can give a hearty pat on the back to the scumbag who threw the particular bottle of Coca Cola which hit the Assistant Referee causing the game to be held up when Alan Kelly rightly went over to check on the well being of the AR concerned - thereby delaying the taking of said Penalty Kick - then it'll be as devauled a League win as the "Rubber Medals" debacle involving Pats and Shels.

I fully expect the FAI to turn a blind eye to this - as seems to be their want this season concerning certain football clubs

[osarusan]

Ridiculous post.

[Rovers Maniac]

Once I had a modicum of respect for Rovers - having known a couple of their more "rounded fans" (dfx and Juz to name two)

But after tonight - my views have been set in stone unfortunately.

I hope that club and it's scumbag following who feel it's perfectly fine to assault a Match Official with a missile are well and truly proud of their scumbag following tonight.

If they - God forbid - win the League by 3 or less points this season - then they can give a hearty pat on the back to the scumbag who threw the particular bottle of Coca Cola which hit the Assistant Referee causing the game to be held up when Alan Kelly rightly went over to check on the well being of the AR concerned - thereby delaying the taking of said Penalty Kick - then it'll be as devauled a League win as the "Rubber Medals" debacle involving Pats and Shels.

I fully expect the FAI to turn a blind eye to this - as seems to be their want this season concerning certain football clubs


:D:D

Have another slice of lemon. :)

[Sheridan]

I agree, let's have open season on match officials. Sling with impunity!

Shamrock Rovers = good. Shamrock Rovers = officials struck by missiles. Therefore, officials struck by missiles = good.

[mypost]

I hope that club and it's scumbag following who feel it's perfectly fine to assault a Match Official with a missile are well and truly proud of their scumbag following tonight.

I fully expect the FAI to turn a blind eye to this - as seems to be their want this season concerning certain football clubs

The missile thrower has been roundly condemned by our fans. We know there will be a heavy punishment as a result of it. As I say, it was the first such incident in 61 games, as we are aware of the consequences.

Secondly, it was your own player who stuck the penalty into Sandyford, not us.

As regards the FAI turning a blind eye to clubs, they've done plenty of that at your club in the last couple of years, but they won't turn a blind eye to our issues.

Good to know though that the League Cup result you got last weekend has worn off fairly quick. :D

[dong]

"Let he who is without sin cast the first...........bottle"
Shams fans are, in the main, ferret heads. But you cannot say that this incident could not occur with any other set of fans
I seem to recall a similar incident of our own a while back. A hefty fine and I would be happy enough and hopefully they find him and ban him.
They will be fined for the flares as well I'm sure as is the norm.

[kdjaC]

Pats fans tried to blow up Heary last season.

he overtook osams record so ehhh it was acceptable :confused:

we all have scumbags following us who only come out 4 times year.

[dfx-]

Tonight's troubling story is a toss up between Sheridan not minding if Rovers win the league and that Bohs may still win the league.

Rest easy Reiteoir, there's more battles to be won. But as for actually blaming a delay for the top scorer in the league taking the worst penalty at the car-park end in Tallaght (and it has seen very bad ones) is not a troubling story.

[Drogman.]

I agree, let's have open season on match officials. Sling with impunity!

Shamrock Rovers = good. Shamrock Rovers = officials struck by missiles. Therefore, officials struck by missiles = good.

Typical tunnel vision to expect on here. One person acts like a knob then suddenlly all the supporters are tainted with the same brush :rolleyes:

6,000 people at a LOI game in Tallaght for the first time ever. I would say that more than half were there for the first time as well, so I'm sure that some of those idiots thought that they were in Football Factory or whatever....

The culprits will be caught and civialisation will continue on again, no biggy.

[gustavo]

not Jason Byrne's fault at all then

[tiktok]

If you get that many people into ground together the chances of their being an idiot in the middle of it is increased. It was unfortunate and you'd hope Rovers would ban the moron, but while it's right to condemn the incident, trying to take the high moral ground when every premier club has a skeleton like this in their closet is laughable.

Shame it happened in a big televised game though.

[wedwood]

Last night was a terrific night at Tallaght. Full stadium, electric athmosphere, edgy match and a dramatic finish.

As for the plonker who threw the bottle at the match official, when we realised what had happened, every fan I could see were appalled and said so.

We have a great noisy, family friendly athmosphere at every game in Tallaght and we're not going to let the plonker ruin it.

[Mark]

Lads. Hate to say it but there is a scumbag element supporting Rovers. That genuine Rovers fans wont' accept this is the sad part. what right has one idiot to assault an official? if he did the same on a street he'd be arrested. what right have several dozen people to enter the field of play when a goal is scored? what right have they to break a wall in Bray that has stood minding it's own business for 25 years?

[Mr A]

To be honest I think it was far more damaging to the image of the league that a top of the table clash consisted of such atrocious football than the act of one scumbag idiot, shameful as it was.

[superfrank]

what right has one idiot to assault an official?
None, and whoever did it should be punished for it.

what right have several dozen people to enter the field of play when a goal is scored?
They're not the first team to do that and won't be the last.

what right have they to break a wall in Bray that has stood minding it's own business for 25 years?
They didn't break it, it collapsed. It was just pure coincidence that it was during a Rovers match it happened. Drogs and Pats fans rushed to the wall when they scored in recent matchs and it didn't fall down then. It was just coincidence that Rovers were the fans there that night, it could have been any team.

[HulaHoop]

That genuine Rovers fans wont' accept this is the sad part.

Would you mind pointing out the Rovers fans here that haven't acknowledged we have some dick heads (as does nearly every club) going to our games and the bottle thrower deserves to be banned?

[thischarmingman]

If they - God forbid - win the League by 3 or less points this season - then they can give a hearty pat on the back to the scumbag who threw the particular bottle of Coca Cola which hit the Assistant Referee causing the game to be held up when Alan Kelly rightly went over to check on the well being of the AR concerned - thereby delaying the taking of said Penalty Kick - then it'll be as devauled a League win as the "Rubber Medals" debacle involving Pats and Shels.

I fully expect the FAI to turn a blind eye to this - as seems to be their want this season concerning certain football clubs

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[Hairy Bowsie]

If you get that many people into ground together the chances of their being an idiot in the middle of it is increased. It was unfortunate and you'd hope Rovers would ban the moron, but while it's right to condemn the incident, trying to take the high moral ground when every premier club has a skeleton like this in their closet is laughable.

Shame it happened in a big televised game though.

Agree with this. But i also agree with one point from the OP and that is that the FAI want Rovers to win the league this year.

[BohsPartisan]

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A bit rich coming from a Derry fan. The fact is the bottle came from the middle of the Rovers hard core. I'd accept that the majority of them wouldn't do it and would have told the offender exactly what they thought but you can't say the delay had no effect on the penalty taker. Having said that there's a long way to go and I'm confident that our friends ;) in Derry will take something off Rovers and we'll still win this thing.

[sonofstan]

I'm confident that our friends ;) in Derry

Kingsley Curry and who else?

[micls]

Agree with this. But i also agree with one point from the OP and that is that the FAI want Rovers to win the league this year.

Maybe so, but there's nothing wrong with that.

I want Rovers to win(yes that makes me feel a little dirty) simply to show that a well run club that's not full time can win the league.

[BohsPartisan]

Maybe so, but there's nothing wrong with that.


??? There's nothing wrong with the governing body of our league showing favoritism to one club?

[micls]

??? There's nothing wrong with the governing body of our league showing favoritism to one club?

Once it affect any actions then no. Now if they actually did anything to try to help this happen then yes, of course there would be somethign wrong with it.

[thischarmingman]

A bit rich coming from a Derry fan. The fact is the bottle came from the middle of the Rovers hard core. I'd accept that the majority of them wouldn't do it and would have told the offender exactly what they thought but you can't say the delay had no effect on the penalty taker.

My point is that Jason Byrne is a professional footballer. To blame a delay in the game for his attempt to kick the ball back to Dalymount Park is disingenuous. He missed. If the delay had been caused by an injury to a player, would that player then have been blamed? And saying, as the OP did, that said delay might win Rovers the lead is plainly absurd.

Obviously the bottle incident is disgraceful, but I willing to accept it's just one person from a crowd of 6000- we've all had that/those idiot(s) in our midst at some time or another.

[eamo1]

So a Rovers player who was sent off against us(Galway Utd) refused to leave the pitch and assulted a steward and didnt get banned/fined etc even though the ref seen it and said he'd mention it in his report.
Meanwhile Shane Guthrie got a straight red and 3 game ban for pushing Dessie Baker who was standing on his foot EVEN THOUGH NEITHER THE REF NOR LINESMAN SEEN IT.
Any favourtism there??

[Da Real Rover]

The only major trouble we had this season was actually with Bohs fans, a bunch of middle aged casuals acting the big man around kids.
But the average Bohs fan ive always found sound, same as with Shams who I chatted to after the last game, btw this doesnt include the shams wreck the heads on this site.
So I really dont think Bohs fans here can take the high ground, every club has an element so at least as LoI fans we can appreciate to differentiate between the scum and the supporter.

[Ezeikial]

So a Rovers player who was sent off against us(Galway Utd) refused to leave the pitch and assulted a steward and didnt get banned/fined etc even though the ref seen it and said he'd mention it in his report.
Meanwhile Shane Guthrie got a straight red and 3 game ban for pushing Dessie Baker who was standing on his foot EVEN THOUGH NEITHER THE REF NOR LINESMAN SEEN IT.
Any favourtism there??

Incompetence -maybe, Favourtism - no.

[BohsPartisan]

The only major trouble we had this season was actually with Bohs fans, a bunch of middle aged casuals acting the big man around kids.
But the average Bohs fan ive always found sound, same as with Shams who I chatted to after the last game, btw this doesnt include the shams wreck the heads on this site.
So I really dont think Bohs fans here can take the high ground, every club has an element so at least as LoI fans we can appreciate to differentiate between the scum and the supporter.

I'm not taking any high moral ground we had a couple of missile incidents ourselves this year but I'm just making the point that it had to have had an effect on Byrne.

What game was the casual incident you mentioned at?

[Da Real Rover]

I'm not taking any high moral ground we had a couple of missile incidents ourselves this year but I'm just making the point that it had to have had an effect on Byrne.

What game was the casual incident you mentioned at?
It was when we played yee in the showgies, cant remember the exact game now.
Around 20-30 of your casuals started charging through barriers because some kids were acting the big men but the Bohs lads were all in their 20s and 30s.
The stewards had to push them back and a few slaps were thrown.

[BohsPartisan]

It was when we played yee in the showgies, cant remember the exact game now.
Around 20-30 of your casuals started charging through barriers because some kids were acting the big men but the Bohs lads were all in their 20s and 30s.
The stewards had to push them back and a few slaps were thrown.

Thats a misrepresentation of what happened. The Sligo lads actually knocked the barriers over and hit some of those standing there upon which they were quite rightly run back down their own end. Much ado about nothing and it wasn't all casuals involved either.

[Da Real Rover]

Thats a misrepresentation of what happened. The Sligo lads actually knocked the barriers over and hit some of those standing there upon which they were quite rightly run back down their own end. Much ado about nothing and it wasn't all casuals involved either.
Sligo lads, they were kids?
And they didnt touch the barriers, they were mouthing off and throwing shapes and then a bunch of middle aged men kicked off and charged down the barriers.

[BohsPartisan]

Sligo lads, they were kids?
And they didnt touch the barriers, they were mouthing off and throwing shapes and then a bunch of middle aged men kicked off and charged down the barriers.

Listen I was right beside the barriers. The "kids" (late teens) knocked the barriers down (those barriers are sh1t too you'd want to get something a bit sturdier). The people that were hit and those around them were insensed and ran them upon which half your crowd ran away as if anything was going to happen them. Then the stewards came in and threw a few digs, having done nothing to your lot who started the whole thing, and got a few back. The fact that there were people wearing colours involved who would generally never be involved in anything says it all about the nature of the incident.

[Da Real Rover]

Listen I was right beside the barriers. The "kids" (late teens) knocked the barriers down (those barriers are sh1t too you'd want to get something a bit sturdier). The people that were hit and those around them were insensed and ran them upon which half your crowd ran away as if anything was going to happen them. Then the stewards came in and threw a few digs, having done nothing to your lot who started the whole thing, and got a few back. The fact that there were people wearing colours involved who would generally never be involved in anything says it all about the nature of the incident.
No those kids were like 14 and 15, they are all the sprogs from Maugheraboy, they werent late teens.
Incensed? There were no barriers knocked down because those kids wouldnt have the balls to do something like that, they were just throwing shapes and mouthing off.
Then a bunch of middle aged men charged through the barrier and the stewards attempted to push them back and then the Bohs lads started kicking and punching and the stewards threw digs too all the time while the kids ran off.
The lads who charged through that I saw werent wearing colours so thats why I assumed they were casuals.

[BohsPartisan]

A minute ago the Bohs fans were in their 20's and 30's and now they are middle aged men? Get your story straight. There were a few colour wearing fans in the mix and a few not wearing colours but only some of those were actual casuals (if you mean BSC). There was also a member of the board sitting near by who is a bit ban happy and saw the whole thing and no one had any action taken against them for the simple reason that yes the barriers were pushed over. I don't know if the sligo lads intended to push them but they were shaking them and they went over. As I said I was standing right beside them when it happened. It was the stewrds who through the first digs. Sligo stewards have a record of being trouble happy when we're around. One of them was up to it again at the cup replay.

[Da Real Rover]

A minute ago the Bohs fans were in their 20's and 30's and now they are middle aged men? Get your story straight.
Here I dont need to get any story straight, im stating what I saw, men in their 20s and 30s and IMO men in their 30s are middle aged.

There were a few colour wearing fans in the mix and a few not wearing colours but only some of those were actual casuals (if you mean BSC).
I didnt see any colours in the scene.
But thats not to say there were none.

There was also a member of the board sitting near by who is a bit ban happy and saw the whole thing and no one had any action taken against them for the simple reason that yes the barriers were pushed over.
From my perspective the barriers werent pushed by the kids.
I saw them over by the barriers mouthing and throwing shapes but I certainly didnt see them pushing a barrier, in any case it was a 3 foot high barrier that hardly caused harm.
If they did indeed push it they should of been told where to go but seeing middle aged fans steaming into a load of kdis and then stewards IMO is a slight over reaction.

I don't know if the sligo lads intended to push them but they were shaking them and they went over.
Yet again they were kids.

As I said I was standing right beside them when it happened. It was the stewrds who through the first digs.
This I can definetly confirm didnt happen.
I saw your lot kicking and throwing slaps into the stewards when they tried to push yee back and then the stewards gave as good as they got, deal with it.

Sligo stewards have a record of being trouble happy when we're around. One of them was up to it again at the cup replay.
And a Bohs fan trying to take the moral high ground with regaurds stewards.
Now thats a bit rich since yee seem to go out of your way to employ *****.

[BohsPartisan]

And a Bohs fan trying to take the moral high ground with regaurds stewards.
Now thats a bit rich since yee seem to go out of your way to employ *****.

Hey I never praised our stewards, I agree with you on that. I won't get into a pedantic discussion about what constitutes middle aged (I would have said 40's/50's) and it seems we're not going to agree on what happened but suffice to say I'm right and you're wrong. ;)

BTW what does it matter if they were "kids". Schoolies are kids too.

[Da Real Rover]

Hey I never praised our stewards, I agree with you on that. I won't get into a pedantic discussion about what constitutes middle aged (I would have said 40's/50's) and it seems we're not going to agree on what happened but suffice to say I'm right and you're wrong. ;)
Indeed.

BTW what does it matter if they were "kids". Schoolies are kids too.
It just seemed a slight over reaction to the circumstances they way the Bohs lads reacted to a few kids.

[peadar1987]

Just to change the tone of this debate, I found the Bohs stewards very friendly and helpful when I visited Dalymount for the first time earlier this year. I asked one of them where the Bray supporters were being put, and myself and my mate had a bit of banter with him and another steward who was standing nearby, all very good natured, and really contributed to having a good evening.

And who says LOI fans moan all the time?

[mypost]

So a Rovers player who was sent off against us(Galway Utd) refused to leave the pitch and didnt get banned/fined etc. Any favourtism there??

He was banned for it.

[BohDiddley]

Once I had a modicum of respect for Rovers - having known a couple of their more "rounded fans" (dfx and Juz to name two)

But after tonight - my views have been set in stone unfortunately.

I hope that club and it's scumbag following who feel it's perfectly fine to assault a Match Official with a missile are well and truly proud of their scumbag following tonight.

If they - God forbid - win the League by 3 or less points this season - then they can give a hearty pat on the back to the scumbag who threw the particular bottle of Coca Cola which hit the Assistant Referee causing the game to be held up when Alan Kelly rightly went over to check on the well being of the AR concerned - thereby delaying the taking of said Penalty Kick - then it'll be as devauled a League win as the "Rubber Medals" debacle involving Pats and Shels.

I fully expect the FAI to turn a blind eye to this - as seems to be their want this season concerning certain football clubs


Sadly, one missile is nothing special in this league. The difference here is that it hit its target. Hardly the fault of all of the club's support, and hardly the cause of Byrne's howler. He'd have more self-respect than to claim that.

I think you're right about the FAI. They are desperate for Shamrock to win the league, but a messy defeat in Tallaght clearly is affecting your sense of proportion in this. It's not over yet.

[Sam_Heggy]

Hoorbags the lot of ye.

[Nesta99]

I think you're right about the FAI. They are desperate for Shamrock to win the league.

Why? Is it in case they have to dethrone Bohs if they are champions? If this is the case well it really will be win win for Shamrock Rovers in that if they finish second they may be awarded the title anyway, if they win the FAI are off the hook in that regard but they will have to deal with the Bohs financial mess exacerbated by less prize money and no champions league revenue. What a close season ahead of us!

Dundalk fans claimed that there was an FAI conspiracy against us, i believe it was poor judgement at most. I dont see why there is any conspiracy in favour of Rovers tbh!

[dfx-]

Probably has just hit the Hubble telescope

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2579/peno.gif

All down to a delay:D

[pineapple stu]

IMO men in their 30s are middle aged.
Come back to me when you're 30 and see if you still think that.

[Gaillimh Al]

He was banned for it.

He got a one match ban for two yellow cards - the regular suspension. No further censure was given re: refusing to leave the pitch and reportedly striking a steward.
Given that the FAI has seemingly done nothing on the matter, it was reported in the local press that the only avenue was to lodge a complaint with the guards.

[mypost]

He got a suspension for the red card, he'll get another one for last night. What more do you want?

[sligo23]

Probably has just hit the Hubble telescope

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2579/peno.gif

Should have been retaken;)
Cheating *******s:p

[fergalr]

Conspiracy theorists out there, answer me this.

Why did the FAI's top ref award a peno to Bohs with 5 mins left? And secondly, why is there no cctv footage of the so-called pentagon plane?

[BohsPartisan]

Conspiracy theorists out there, answer me this.

Why did the FAI's top ref award a peno to Bohs with 5 mins left? And secondly, why is there no cctv footage of the so-called pentagon plane?

Oh that's easy, because it was a clear cut penalty.

[PartySaint]

they were just throwing shapes .

They could have had an eye out throwing shapes around like that