Squad Named [Archive]

colster

25/09/2009, 3:38 PM

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100373:trapattoni-names-provision-squad-for-wc-qualifiers&catid=1:senior-men&Itemid=8

Goalkeepers

Shay Given
Keiren Westwood
Joe Murphy

Defenders

John O'Shea
Kevin Foley
Richard Dunne
Stephen Kelly
Kevin Kilbane
Eddie Nolan
Sean St. Ledger
Paul McShane
Darren O�Dea

Midfielders

Aiden McGeady
Damien Duff
Darron Gibson
Glenn Whelan
Keith Andrews
Liam Miller
Stephen Hunt
Andy Keogh
Steven Reid
Liam Lawrence

Forwards
Caleb Folan
Kevin Doyle
Robbie Keane
Shane Long
Leon Best

backstothewall

25/09/2009, 3:46 PM

Republic of Ireland Squad v Italy & Montenegro

Goalkeepers

Shay Given, Manchester City
Keiren Westwood, Coventry City
Joe Murphy, Scunthorpe United

Defenders

John O'Shea, Manchester United
Kevin Foley, Wolves
Richard Dunne, Aston Villa
Stephen Kelly, Fulham
Kevin Kilbane, Hull City
Eddie Nolan, Preston North End
Sean St. Ledger, Middlesbrough
Paul McShane, Hull City
Darren O’Dea, Reading

Midfielders

Aiden McGeady, Celtic
Damien Duff, Fulham
Darron Gibson, Manchester United
Glenn Whelan, Stoke City
Keith Andrews, Blackburn Rovers
Liam Miller, Hibernian
Stephen Hunt, Hull City
Andy Keogh, Wolves
Steven Reid, Blackburn Rovers
Liam Lawrence, Stoke City

Forwards

Caleb Folan, Middlesbrough
Kevin Doyle, Wolves
Robbie Keane, Tottenham Hotspur
Shane Long, Reading
Leon Best, Coventry City

No Finnan. Must not have made it. Can't say I'm terribly surprised.

27 seems very big. What is the maximum number he can call up?

Fergie's Son

25/09/2009, 3:47 PM

Disappointed that Andy Reid wasn't named in the squad.

tetsujin1979

25/09/2009, 3:47 PM

pretty much as I expected.
Reid's inclusion is a bonus for these 2 games. Andy Reid must be disappointed.

KK77

25/09/2009, 3:48 PM

Did Trap saying about Stephen Ireland?

LFCSixty/Eighty

25/09/2009, 3:54 PM

Now that Miller actually HAS a club I'm surprised Trap didn't name him as captain!

Drumcondra 69er

25/09/2009, 3:57 PM

Jicked

25/09/2009, 3:57 PM

Now that Miller actually HAS a club I'm surprised Trap didn't name him as captain!
Yawn, Trap obviously thinks he can do a job for Ireland. He showed in his last performance that he could. If Trap thinks that, he's well within his rights to stick by a player whilst going what, 3 or 4 weeks without a club at the start of the season when he was no doubt under assurances that he would have a club within days, which he did.

LFCSixty/Eighty

25/09/2009, 4:19 PM

Yawn, Trap obviously thinks he can do a job for Ireland. He showed in his last performance that he could. If Trap thinks that, he's well within his rights to stick by a player whilst going what, 3 or 4 weeks without a club at the start of the season when he was no doubt under assurances that he would have a club within days, which he did.

His last performance against South Africa??? Oh no sorry, he didn't even get a run that night, Trap has a great way of proving Miller can hold a midfield together.....by not playing him. Anyway your right, its not even worth debating at this stage. Miller is obviously going to be in any squad Traps picks until his contact is up, so I'll just have to deal with it.

carloz

25/09/2009, 4:25 PM

His last performance against South Africa??? Oh no sorry, he didn't even get a run that night, Trap has a great way of proving Miller can hold a midfield together.....by not playing him. Anyway your right, its not even worth debating at this stage. Miller is obviously going to be in any squad Traps picks until his contact is up, so I'll just have to deal with it.

I assume he means the last game Miller played for us against Nigeria in london where he was very impressive. Nobody is going to be perfectly happy with every squad. Miller is complete back up to our central midfield and will only play in the event of a lot of injuries. Trap rates him and will pick him so lets stop with the tired giving out after every squad announcement

centre mid

25/09/2009, 4:47 PM

I'd be suprised now if Andy Reid gets into another Trappatoni squad now, a shame really.

tiktok

25/09/2009, 4:52 PM

No surprises. Anyone expecting Andy Reid to get a call was deluding themselves. Maybe if he puts half a season together in his current form he may have a chance but I'm not holding my breath.

He'd be in my squad btw, just think it'll take an injury crisis such as the one that brought O'Leary back into the fold under Jack before it happens.

Miller has barely put half a game together.
At least the other Reid is back, we might get an hour out of him before his next injury, such has been the lad's luck.

theworm2345

25/09/2009, 5:06 PM

27 seems very big. What is the maximum number he can call up?
He can call up an infinite number if the FAI are willing to accomodate all of them. However, I believe the final matchday squad can only be 18.

amaccann

25/09/2009, 5:42 PM

It's great to see Stephen Reid in the squad, and while my heart would love to see him play, my head knows that Reid taking to the field may not be the most sensible thing to do.

tricky_colour

25/09/2009, 5:49 PM

Andy Reid has just got to keep plugging away and the pressure to get him back in the squad will increase, he has just got into the Premiership top 100.
If he continues to do well it will be hard to leave him out.

Rovers1

25/09/2009, 5:50 PM

27 seems very big. What is the maximum number he can call up?

Thought it was 25/26 myself.

MeathDrog

25/09/2009, 6:00 PM

Drumcondra 69er

25/09/2009, 6:10 PM

Miller has barely put half a game together.
At least the other Reid is back, we might get an hour out of him before his next injury, such has been the lad's luck.

I agree but Trap loves Miller though.

SuperDave

25/09/2009, 9:05 PM

He can call up as many as he wants. Come the world cup, however, max squad size is 23.

Dave77

25/09/2009, 10:01 PM

delighted to see s. reid back, hopefully stays fit, especially when the playoffs come around.

stojkovic

25/09/2009, 10:48 PM

Did Trap saying about Stephen Ireland?

Who ?

irishfan86

26/09/2009, 4:44 AM

I was reading that Joe Murphy had some sort of nerve injury...with this sort of thing it may not clear up right away (didn't Harte miss months over something like this before?).

Wonder if Kiely would come back if we called him.

"Joe Murphy has picked up an injury with his arm where his nerve has gone dead from his elbow down to his hand,"

"He's gone to have an X-ray to make sure there isn't any damage with his neck. Obviously there is going to be some nerve trapment and hopefully it goes away as quickly as it came."

http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/News/Something-for-the-weekend-September25.aspx

NeilMcD

26/09/2009, 12:21 PM

I was reading that Joe Murphy had some sort of nerve injury...with this sort of thing it may not clear up right away (didn't Harte miss months over something like this before?).

Wonder if Kiely would come back if we called him.

http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/News/Something-for-the-weekend-September25.aspx

Very complex the nerve is, as I am dealing with at the moment. Nevers are curious things, and mine has not recovered in 12 months despite the fact it is fully intact. So trauma and scare tissue can go it to go into hibernation and just not recover.

SkStu

26/09/2009, 6:34 PM

how Trappatoni deems that Andy Reid is not amongst the top 27 players for Ireland absolutely disgusts me.

EastTerracer

26/09/2009, 6:42 PM

how Trappatoni deems that Andy Reid is not amongst the top 27 players for Ireland absolutely disgusts me.

I don't think Trapp has ever questioned his ability so it's not that he rates 27 players "better" than Andy Reid.

Picking a squad is about picking the players that will work best together to fulfil the manager's plans. From the way Ireland are playing I think behind the front two is the only place where Reid would currently fit in. He is a superb passer of the ball but he is not a winger and Trapp wants two defensive centre-midfield players to disrupt the opposition.

Personally, I'd prefer to see a centre-midfield pair of Stephen Reid alongside Andy Reid but the manager has a different view of the game than me. I'm not going to argue with that if he gets results though.

I still think it's up to Andy Reid to convince Trapp that he can do a job for him - just as Liam Brady had to convince Jack Charlton that he could play within Jack's system in the late-80s.

SkStu

26/09/2009, 6:48 PM

I don't think Trapp has ever questioned his ability so it's not that he rates 27 players "better" than Andy Reid.

thats exactly what it is no matter what the background is or what spin is being put on it. There are 27 players picked ahead of Andy Reid. Thats disgraceful.

Andy Reid would be equally as effective as all the "wingers" (Keogh = winger :rolleyes: ) that Trappatoni has named bar possibly Duff.

It galls me that a late night sing song or a sulky few days (born out of disappointment) has spelt the end of Reids international career.

NeilMcD

26/09/2009, 9:57 PM

But you need people to be happy and all pulling together. Greece won the European Championships not cause they were the best team in Euro2004 but because the had a plan and they all worked together with that plan and it suited the players and they gave little away. Trap is trying to get Ireland into a similar situation and Reid does not fit this and when he was not in the team Trap was not happy with his attitude around the camp. Team spirit is very important and if you have someone who is not happy they can have a corrosive affect on the squad.

By the way I would have Reid in the squad.

irishfan86

02/10/2009, 8:51 PM

Noel Hunt has been named as a replacement for Caleb Folan.

third policeman

02/10/2009, 9:49 PM

Noel Hunt has been named as a replacement for Caleb Folan.

Predictable but disappointing, he is not getting much game time at the minute. Would love to have seen Morrison recalled or even Walters given a chance. It's not as if Hunt has ever made an impact when brought on. No doubt Trapp and Brady will be commended by some for loyalty/ consistency, but there are times when it looks like sheer stubbornness especially when it comes to Reid and the overlooking of Morrison. He has given vastly more than Hunt to Ireland and is playing and scoring regularly. We are a small nation with limited playing resources we cannot afford perverse selection policies.

irishfan86

02/10/2009, 9:53 PM

Predictable but disappointing, he is not getting much game time at the minute. Would love to have seen Morrison recalled or even Walters given a chance. It's not as if Hunt has ever made an impact when brought on. No doubt Trapp and Brady will be commended by some for loyalty/ consistency, but there are times when it looks like sheer stubbornness especially when it comes to Reid and the overlooking of Morrison. He has given vastly more than Hunt to Ireland and is playing and scoring regularly. We are a small nation with limited playing resources we cannot afford perverse selection policies.

I agree- while it is important to be consistent with your starting XI, I believe fringe spots should be given to players who are in form (obviously not total overhauls, but just a bit of tinkering to reward those in good form).

In fairness to Noel, the reason for his lack of playing time is the fact that he's coming back from an injury, and as for your statements which imply that he hasn't contributed much, he has only had a handful of chances with Ireland, so I think it's a bit unfair to judge him on those performances alone.

But for the record, I would have had Morrison as part of the set-up a long time ago if I were in charge.

cavan_fan

02/10/2009, 10:11 PM

He can call up as many as he wants. Come the world cup, however, max squad size is 23.

Just to pass the time,which 4 of these would he drop for a world cup squad, assume 1 striker (Long?), Lawrence from MF and possibly Foley/Nolan. Made harder is Finnan is fit.

irishfan86

02/10/2009, 10:25 PM

Just to pass the time,which 4 of these would he drop for a world cup squad, assume 1 striker (Long?), Lawrence from MF and possibly Foley/Nolan. Made harder is Finnan is fit.

Assuming everybody is healthy, I assume the squad would look like:

4 fullbacks-Finnan, Kilbane, Kelly, Nolan
4 centrebacks-Dunne, O'Shea, St. Ledger, McShane
4 wingers- McGeady, Lawrence, Duff, Hunt
4 central midfielders, S. Reid, Whelan, Andrews, Gibson or Miller
4 strikers- Robbie, Doyle, ?, ?
3 goalkeepers: Shay, Westwood, ?

Obviously there is some overlap with players who can play multiple positions, but that is probably the basic plan.

I think those would be the first 4 wingers at this stage, and the real spots up for grabs are the forward positions after Keane and Doyle, the third goalkeeping position, and the two fullback positions, where the likes of Foley could step ahead of Nolan or Kelly.