The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

[pineapple stu]

I am all for not relegating them. Relegate Bray and get Derry City to play Drogheda in the play-off.
How on earth does that make sense?

[Dodge]

How on earth does that make sense?

What has sense got to do with anything. I think we should play off with Galway for the league personally...

Hope Derry survive, take whatever punishment is coming their way, and come back again

[pineapple stu]

What has sense got to do with anything.
Touche

[eamo1]

According to Breakingnews.ie theres an FAI Board meeting today at 1.30pm to decide Derry's fate.Anyone for fudge??

[Rovers Maniac]

According to Breakingnews.ie theres an FAI Board meeting today at 1.30pm to decide Derry's fate.Anyone for fudge??

I don't think this time no. Derry are relegated only thing uncertain is what they are relegated to?

[gufct]

According to Breakingnews.ie theres an FAI Board meeting today at 1.30pm to decide Derry's fate.Anyone for fudge??

No fudge Eamon .There is a Press Conference Timed for 2.30pm. Nothing should have been said about this until today ruined the last night of the season.

My big worry is that Derry will drop out of football entirely which would be criminal with their magnificent fans.

[De Town]

Despite all the problems this year, the league was so close to having no *'s on the league table..so close..

[MariborKev]

Hope Derry survive, take whatever punis
hment is coming their way, and come back again

We deserve to have the book thrown at us and we'll be back.

[Mr_Parker]

We deserve to have the book thrown at us and we'll be back.

Where you come back to will be the remaining question though.

[MariborKev]

Mr P,

Like the unrequited lover, it won't be the IL.

It may be a year out of senior football and back to the A League for the 2011 season.

[pineapple stu]

Is there a reason you'd have to take a year off?

Even if the A League application deadline is gone, I think a special case could be made for Derry applying next year, given they couldn't have applied before the deadline. It'd make no sense to penalise the club by having them out of business for a season.

[KianD]

Is there a reason you'd have to take a year off?

Even if the A League application deadline is gone, I think a special case could be made for Derry applying next year, given they couldn't have applied before the deadline. It'd make no sense to penalise the club by having them out of business for a season.

Surely if Derry have applied for a Premier licence, they can be dropped down to A on the basis of it being a lower level of the 'same' licence structure, like Cobh were?

[Mr A]

I think jurisdictional issues along with the fact that the FAI exemptions etc would have to be sorted would complicate things.

But I agree that a way should be found to at least have a DCFC team in the A League next season.

[MariborKev]

Is there a reason you'd have to take a year off?

Even if the A League application deadline is gone, I think a special case could be made for Derry applying next year, given they couldn't have applied before the deadline. It'd make no sense to penalise the club by having them out of business for a season.


That is what we'd have to hope for Stu.

[Mr_Parker]

Mr P,

Like the unrequited lover, it won't be the IL.

It may be a year out of senior football and back to the A League for the 2011 season.

Any new club is exactly as it says, "new." That being the case it will still need to register with the IFA before it could even put a case together as to why they should be granted special dispensation from them to play in a league outside of their jurisdiction.

The fact that any new team would have to start in a much lower division, the chances of any contentious games are minimal. Given how things have changed in the North and the fact that any team can now play at any venue without any major difficulties, I cannot see how any request for such special dispensation would be supported nor can I think of any reasons why it would be.

[Mr A]

So the IFA would kill the idea of a 'new' DCFC in the LOI just for the sake of it?

That sounds mad.

But entirely plausible.

[MariborKev]

Mr P,

Two options

- Purchase of the Derry City FC name from the existing company. DCFC is a member club of the FAI
- If not, and we have to reform as a new name, then we could challenge on the basis of the League of Wales clubs v FAW precedent.

[Mr_Parker]

So the IFA would kill the idea of a 'new' DCFC in the LOI just for the sake of it?

That sounds mad.

But entirely plausible.

It would not be "just for the sake of it." It would be on the basis of no justification for doing so imo.

[Mr_Parker]

Mr P,

Two options

- Purchase of the Derry City FC name from the existing company. DCFC is a member club of the FAI
- If not, and we have to reform as a new name, then we could challenge on the basis of the League of Wales clubs v FAW precedent.

The purchasing of the name option is out following rule changes both at the IFA and HMRC following the Coleraine/Calver case.

I am not familiar with the League of Wales clubs v FAW precedent.

[dortie]

The only good thing out of all this will be supporting a team who will be playing for their shirt. And if we are defeated realising it isnt costing us 20k a week.

[micls]

And if eg Dungannon Swifts or HMRC should close down Wellvan, say, next April, could the FAI simply transfer their old Licence to a new vehicle ("DCFC2010"?) mid-season and carry on as if nothing had happened?
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No, the license dies with the holding company. Any newe company would have to apply for a new license.

Surely if Derry have applied for a Premier licence, they can be dropped down to A on the basis of it being a lower level of the 'same' licence structure, like Cobh were?

If Wellvan go bust there is no Derry City/or license. A new company would have to apply from scratch to the A league.

[Dillonman]

Whats the word about Derry? Has there been any updates from the FAI yet?

[galwayjames]

Whats the word about Derry? Has there been any updates from the FAI yet?

Press conference 2.30pm will reveal all

[Dillonman]

Press conference 2.30pm will reveal all

Cheers dude!

[OneRedArmy]

If Wellvan go bust there is no Derry City/or license. A new company would have to apply from scratch to the A league.....and this is precisely why today is only a sideshow. It will get much worse before it gets better unfortunately.

[Longfordian]

Do ye reckon Jim Roddy knew about some or all of this which would be why he left?. He always had a lot to say about financial matters elsewhere I seem to recall.

[BacRod]

Press conference 2.30pm will reveal all

Does anyone know where this'll be on? I'm wondering if the BBC are pulling their usual trick of pretending Derry City don't exist so that they can give attention to David Jeffrey stubbing his toe or something.

[sligoman]

This thread is way too long for me to read through it all, can someone briefly say why Derry are expected to be relegated? I know there's been issues with not paying players and that but sure Cork are at that too so why are Derry being relegated?

[Mr A]

Allegations that 'documentation' was not in order. Players contracts by the sound of it.

[Mr_Parker]

Does anyone know where this'll be on? I'm wondering if the BBC are pulling their usual trick of pretending Derry City don't exist so that they can give attention to David Jeffrey stubbing his toe or something.

Ironic given the general view of the majority of IL fans of the disportionate about of coverage Derry get on the Beeb.

[Longfordian]

Certain information has been brought to the attention of the FAI apparently. Speculation suggests they've been paying players under the counter and have been found out.

[DmanDmythDledge]

It would not be "just for the sake of it." It would be on the basis of no justification for doing so imo.
24 years of playing League of Ireland football seems like justification to me.


This thread is way too long for me to read through it all, can someone briefly say why Derry are expected to be relegated? I know there's been issues with not paying players and that but sure Cork are at that too so why are Derry being relegated?
Seemingly the submitted false documents with the license application at the beginning of the season. All will be revealed shortly though.

[refjohn]

local radio have someone in attendance - reports here as soon as announced
http://wm9.easystream.co.uk/drive105

[Mr_Parker]

24 years of playing League of Ireland football seems like justification to me.

If it is to be the same club then maybe, but the indications are that it would be a newly formed club.

[Scrufil]

Awful rubbish music on that local station so far!:mad:

[refjohn]

There's a wake of DCFC supporters at http://www.irishfootienetwork.com/derrycitychat/chat/index.php3 awaiting the news

[GUISAUltra]

anyone else think that the presenter is really annoying. could quite possibly be the worst show ever

[Mr_Parker]

anyone else think that the presenter is really annoying. could quite possibly be the worst show ever

I can't wait to hear the darts news myself. :o

[refjohn]

anyone else think that the presenter is really annoying. could quite possibly be the worst show ever

Yep - but he's going to have live hockey - we need some sport in Derry :p

[galwayjames]

Is this flipping press conference on yet? It was scheduled for 20 mins ago and I've better things to be doing than hearing about another team doing a Shelbourne :mad:

[GUISAUltra]

Well if he's going to have live hockey then that's ok :D i think he brought up every other bit of news in that intro except the story everyones waiting on

[stamullendrog]

just flicking thru this thread and it seems that a lot of IL aupporters have some sort of secret wish to have derry back in the IL.the comments are kinds like when your about 14 and ya pretend to really hate a girl even though you secretly fancy the pants off her

[galwayjames]

Well if he's going to have live hockey then that's ok :-D i think he brought up every other bit of news in that intro except the story everyones waiting on

Must be a Derry fan :)

[Scrufil]

anyone else think that the presenter is really annoying. could quite possibly be the worst show ever

Ha you never heard me presenting on radio! My voice was like wet gravel yesterday and I can bore anyone to sleep. The music is my only saving grace. I just don't like the music.

[GUISAUltra]

Sounds like a great show :)

[OneRedArmy]

just flicking thru this thread and it seems that a lot of IL aupporters have some sort of secret wish to have derry back in the IL.the comments are kinds like when your about 14 and ya pretend to really hate a girl even though you secretly fancy the pants off herI actually mentioned this analogy to someone at the game last night.

Absolute non-issue as long as getting back in the LoI, at whatever level, is still an option.

[Weatherman]

anybody got a link to it?

[galwayjames]

anybody got a link to it?

they're on the previous page

[Mr A]

Drive 105.. http://wm9.easystream.co.uk/drive105

[Weatherman]

Sorry ment another link, that one is'nt working for me?