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Stephen Carr. With McShane injured and Finnan not available, I'd rather have Carr in at RB in order to keep the O'Shea/Dunne CB partnership intact. This at the expense of Sean St. Ledger who I don't rate as highly as most seem to on here.
just out of interest, youre in Canada, same as me so im guessing you have seen about as much of SSL as me, that is, some highlights (of his cup goals) and his appearances for Ireland. How can you rate him at all, high or low? He has been very impressive in what i have seen.
Tony Gale was having a big moan about the chances Keane missed on SSN. I haven't seen the highlights yet so cannot comment on whether they were sitters but Keane seems to attract a lot more criticism since he left Liverpool by pundits and fans alike. All strikers miss. Michael Owen messed up one on one with the keeper today and that will hardly feature in tomorrows match report.
I bet Owen's miss is mentioned. He also missed when the game was over.
Keane missed two easy chances when the game was 0-0, there is a difference. He missed a couple of others too
Colbert Report
17/08/2009, 12:25 AM
just out of interest, youre in Canada, same as me so im guessing you have seen about as much of SSL as me, that is, some highlights (of his cup goals) and his appearances for Ireland. How can you rate him at all, high or low? He has been very impressive in what i have seen.
I'm going off the three Ireland matches I've seen him play: Nigeria in London, Bulgaria in Sofia and Australia in Limerick. I just haven't been as impressed with him as you all seem to be. I'm not slagging him or saying he's not any good, I'm just not as high on him as the consensus opinion on here seems to be. Hopefully I'm wrong and he turns out to be a great player. He's got to get a move to the Premiership though, I don't think going up to Scotland would do him any good.
kennedmc
17/08/2009, 9:44 AM
Tony Gale was having a big moan about the chances Keane missed on SSN. I haven't seen the highlights yet so cannot comment on whether they were sitters but Keane seems to attract a lot more criticism since he left Liverpool by pundits and fans alike. All strikers miss. Michael Owen messed up one on one with the keeper today and that will hardly feature in tomorrows match report.
Keane should have had a brace today, a header from 4 yards out and 1 on 1 with the keeper. Both were saved but very poor finishing from Keane
dr_peepee
17/08/2009, 9:59 AM
Keane should have had a brace today, a header from 4 yards out and 1 on 1 with the keeper. Both were saved but very poor finishing from Keane
I dunno. I think that's harsh. The header, maybe considered a bad miss. But when he actually headed the ball the net was empty so he done the simplest head it down and get it on target. More often than not they go in. Reina done well to get back from the near post. Had he tried to place it, it would've looked worse.
The second was a very good save from Reina. Keane was under pressure from the two defenders. Reina stayed big and pulled a one handed save from a shot that was heading for the top left hand corner.
The third miss was a shocker mind you... I'm happy with his form. The goals will come.
shakermaker1982
17/08/2009, 11:43 AM
I bet Owen's miss is mentioned. He also missed when the game was over.
Keane missed two easy chances when the game was 0-0, there is a difference. He missed a couple of others too
I haven't seen Keane's chances so cannot comment on how bad they were but Owen's was simple enough for a top class striker and surprise surprise it is hardly mentioned in the guardian sport section. Don't get me wrong Keane could be more clinical but at least he is in the position to get these chances.
Closed Account
17/08/2009, 11:51 AM
Not a bad opening day for Wilson
http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cms_ref=news&qs_article_id=2726
youngirish
17/08/2009, 11:59 AM
Not a bad opening day for Wilson
http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cms_ref=news&qs_article_id=2726
The Portsmouth messageboards are generally commenting on his performance in a fairly positive tone irrespective of Sky only giving him a 5 on their website. The vast majority of comments seem to imply that bar one mistake he looked very assured and solid. Playing in central defence also. Could be an option in South Africa.
Umberside
17/08/2009, 12:11 PM
Jay O'Shea played as well yesterday against man U.
tricky_colour
17/08/2009, 9:44 PM
The Portsmouth messageboards are generally commenting on his performance in a fairly positive tone irrespective of Sky only giving him a 5 on their website. The vast majority of comments seem to imply that bar one mistake he looked very assured and solid. Playing in central defence also. Could be an option in South Africa.
I remember watching him in this match a while back, I though he looked impressive then.
http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cms_ref=news&qs_slideshow_b3b4_index=&fm_type=&fm_string=&fm_article_page_num=&qs_media=html&qs_articleid=1936
Tony Adams forecast a bright future for Marc Wilson after his outstanding display against Heerenveen.
Hope he is right.
Paddy Garcia
17/08/2009, 10:53 PM
Could be an option in South Africa.
I hope he plays for us instead though. Chickens and all that..................
dr_peepee
18/08/2009, 8:31 AM
Yet another experienced manager not sharing the views of a sizeable contingent here re Andy Reid so i take it
Just read this morning that he missed out on Saturday due to a thigh strain.
youngirish
18/08/2009, 9:24 AM
Yet another experienced manager not sharing the views of a sizeable contingent here re Andy Reid so i take it
In fairness elroy I doubt too many posters on here believe Andy Reid is a top class Premiership footballer. However it's difficult to argue that he's not a far better player than the likes of Whelan and Andrews in the centre or Hunt and McGeady in the wide positions (if Trapp insists on preserving his destructive central midfield). You'd only have to see a couple of his Ireland performances to recognise he brings more to the team than any of the above. He can pass the ball more than 18 yards without consistently giving away possession for a start so already he's a cut above any of those players in my book.
Hunty's Flatcap
18/08/2009, 1:34 PM
Just thought I'd say how well the Wolves boys did the other day. The early signs look really positive. Foley was his ever-dependable self and Ward was excellent especially in possession on saturday. He loves to support the left winger and was playing some excellent balls into the channels for Ebanks-Blake to come wide and drag his marker out of position. Neither looked out of their comfort zone at all and both seem capable of making the step-up which bodes well for the future bearing in mind the full back issues in the National Team.
Keogh's link-up play was excellent on saturday and with Ebanks-Blake picking up a hamstring injury, before long we could see a forward line of Keogh and Doyle which might help convince Trapp that Keogh is a viable option up-front instead of on the right wing.
eirebhoy
18/08/2009, 1:46 PM
Reid was excellent for Sunderland in pre-season. Ignorance to think he wouldn't be in the Sunderland squad.
tetsujin1979
18/08/2009, 2:34 PM
Keogh's link-up play was excellent on saturday and with Ebanks-Blake picking up a hamstring injury, before long we could see a forward line of Keogh and Doyle which might help convince Trapp that Keogh is a viable option up-front instead of on the right wing.
Both goals he's scored under Trapattoni (against Serbia, and Nottingham Forest) came when he played through the middle, after being moved away from an ineffective spell on the right wing. If that doesn't convince him, nothing will.
DeLorean
18/08/2009, 3:13 PM
Yet another experienced manager not sharing the views of a sizeable contingent here re Andy Reid so i take it
Whelan didn't start either, neither did Gibson. I'd make another point or two put youngirish has done it for me.
olegunnar
20/08/2009, 3:14 PM
Whelan & Delap started V Liverpool, Lawrence came on
O'Shea and McCann started in Burnley/Manu match (Gibson unused sub)
Keogh & Ward started for Wolves
Keane/Hunt/Folan started in Spurs/Hull (kilbane unused sub)
Andy Reid came on for S'Land
Fahey/Carr started for Birmingham (Carsley/O'Shea unused subs)
Irish players continue to start well....
Umberside
20/08/2009, 5:33 PM
(Carsley/O'Shea unused subs)
Jayo came on late in the game, about ten minutes to go I think
Razors left peg
20/08/2009, 5:51 PM
Jayo came on late in the game, about ten minutes to go I think
not in last nights game
Umberside
20/08/2009, 6:35 PM
not in last nights game
my mistake :o
Whelan started again for Stoke, seems to have done enough in the pool game to be first choice again. Lets hope he stays there.
Eirambler
22/08/2009, 8:24 PM
By my count 19 Irish played in the 6 games today:
Stoke - Whelan, Delap and Lawrence
Birmingham - Carr and Fahey
Man Utd - Gibson and O'Shea (both came on as subs)
Wigan - McCarthy (sub)
Hull - Kilbane, Hunt and Folan
Wolves - Doyle, Keogh and Ward
Portsmouth - Wilson
Man City - Given , Dunne and England
Blackburn - Andrews
4 more games to come so should beat last weeks 20. The impressive start continues.
Fergie's Son
22/08/2009, 8:41 PM
Gibson did well today. The contest was basically over but he was energetic and involved.
Good to see Kilbane getting game time and keeping a clean sheet as well.
Crosby87
22/08/2009, 11:19 PM
[QUOTE=Fergie's Son;1217108 The contest was basically over but he was energetic and involved.[/QUOTE]
Well, thank God for that. I mean a young player trying to play with some energy? Amazing. :D
Closed Account
14/08/2010, 11:19 AM
I think it could be the lowest ever this season due to injuries/selections
Not Starting:
Man City: Shay Given, Stephen Ireland,Greg Cunningham
Tottenham Hotsput: Robbie Keane
And in Scotland
Celtic: Darren O'Dea, Darly Murphy
Inverness: Richie Foran
It should be noted that Hayes and Rooney do start for Inverness
Closed Account
14/08/2010, 1:46 PM
Just, Dunne, Duff, Kelly, Carr, Fahey, McCarthy, Delap, Whelan, Foley and Ward
Charlie Darwin
14/08/2010, 2:33 PM
Surprised to see Kelly starting. Is he at left-full?
Colbert Report
14/08/2010, 2:59 PM
Yes, according to this link:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=293039&league=ENG.1&cc=5901
Charlie Darwin
14/08/2010, 3:04 PM
I wonder if Konchesky is injured or if this means he's off to join Roy in Liverpool.
fu1ham
14/08/2010, 4:48 PM
I don't think Konchesky is injured , so he could well be off . Shame , but Kelly had a good game today at left full. I think he reads the game quite well , and can pass, but has a poor left foot. Strangely though, he played just as well as he normally does at right full. Damien badly off the pace though, probably the worst game I've seen him play for us. Missing Roy?
I thought Duffer was ruled out of todays game, carrying a knock from the other night, so that may well have inhibited his performance.
backstothewall
16/08/2010, 9:59 AM
Not EPL, but we had both goalkeepers in the Hibs v Motherwell game. Stack started for Hibs, and Darren Randolph for Motherwell following a move from Charlton. Stokes and Miller both scored also.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8915896.stm
tetsujin1979
16/08/2010, 12:48 PM
Premiership opening day Irish Abroad: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/GameDayDetails?seasonID=140&date=2010-08-14
10 starters, 2 introduced subs and one of those (Keogh) was substituted late on
I'll write up a report in the main thread later
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