Des Bishop - The Squeegee King [Archive]

patsh

03/02/2004, 8:24 AM

Originally posted by Conor74
Perhaps the saddest irony is that he was struggling to get by, working for the minimum wage in the Aquadome...which is of course Dick's Springs lasting legacy in Tralee, unless someone is gonna mention the Blennerville windmill...
Has Dick Spring done something to you personally, Conor? :eek:

Macy

03/02/2004, 9:00 AM

Originally posted by patsh
Has Dick Spring done something to you personally, Conor? :eek:
No FF are just running scared from the real opposition Party in this country....

From the program I don't think there was anything bad said about the aquadome itself, just getting surviving on the minimum wage.... And if that's such a trouble, who exactly is the main Government Party that sets it? Might not have been such a trouble if FF had removed minimum wage workers from the tax net instead of cutting corporation tax (yet again)...

A face

03/02/2004, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Macy
I don't think there was anything bad said about the aquadome itself

Course not ..... those slides are WIZARD !! :D

Might not have been such a trouble if FF had removed minimum wage workers from the tax net instead of cutting corporation tax (yet again)...

Now now Macy .... I am sure Uncle Bertie et co know best !! :D

Macy

03/02/2004, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by A face
Now now Macy .... I am sure Uncle Bertie et co know best !! :D
It's obvious they do their best, for those most important to them - the horsey set, big business and the rich...

tiktok

03/02/2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by A face
What do you reckon .... is he sweeping the dirt out from under the rug ?

no harm having a mirror held in front of us now and again. good show, well put together.

patsh

03/02/2004, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Macy
It's obvious they do their best, for those most important to them - the horsey set, big business and the rich...
Of course, Ahern must be going through the biggest crisis of his "career" at the moment....
On the one hand, there is Magnier, McCreepys puppet master, and McManus, the man who would bankroll 1/20 of the cost of the Abbotstown stately pleasure dome.
and then on the other
is Sir Alex, the man who has guided and led the Teashock's beloved "reds".

With important matters like this on his mind, I'm sure Ahern could do without the trivialities of Europe, his government's continuing destruction of what remains of a society in this country, health, transport, poverty and all the other issues whinging, creeping jesus' seem to think are important.

Ruairi

03/02/2004, 10:58 AM

i think des bishop is an arrogant cúnt. His show is a complete and utter ego trip.

idiot. He's likel "oh, look at me, I've only got two euro the day before payday, oh give me sympathy"

Try having NO euros the WEEK before payday a$shole.

Prat.

NorthoftheLee

03/02/2004, 11:27 AM

think ruairi should get his own show now.......
Whatever Des can do I can do poorer ;)

John83

03/02/2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Ruairi
i think des bishop is an arrogant cúnt. His show is a complete and utter ego trip.

idiot. He's likel "oh, look at me, I've only got two euro the day before payday, oh give me sympathy"

Try having NO euros the WEEK before payday a$shole.

Prat.
His whole point is that there are people who have to live like that all the time. He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on. He's saying that the people in this counrty treat people working in jobs like that like **** - something I'm quite aware of. It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.

tiktok

03/02/2004, 12:59 PM

haven't seen the aquadome episode but in the opening episode he made a point of getting across that he wasn't looking for sympathy, that he only had to work there for a limited amount of time.

MikeW

03/02/2004, 1:00 PM

Originally posted by John83
It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.

The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.

The most interesting point about minimum wage work is that fairly often workers in the likes of Abrakebabra work far harder than people earning vastly more than them. In particular people in the IT industry, who quite obviously do absolutely nothing whatsoever of any value for their money. Stupid IT industry.

Ruairi

03/02/2004, 1:02 PM

Originally posted by John83
His whole point is that there are people who have to live like that all the time. He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on. He's saying that the people in this counrty treat people working in jobs like that like **** - something I'm quite aware of. It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.

Fúck him. This isn;t about Bishop making a point of our minimum wage (which, BTW, has been raisd to €7 an hour for every experienced adult worker), it's about him making as much ****ing money as possible in the process.....

You think he's making that documentary for minimum wage? Or the stand up show that's based on his "minimum wage" experiences... you think he gets 6 bob an hour for that?

They guy's megalomaniacal arrogance is somethin else altogether... so what if he can work on minimum wage.... all he does in his show is complain... you think after this show that he's going to stay on minimum wage (i'd be scpetical that he's doing that while the show's going on anyway)

what an idiot, plain and simple

Peadar

03/02/2004, 1:49 PM

Originally posted by John83
He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on.

You are joking John aren't you?
The show has nothing to do with minimum wage.
It was a poor attempt by Mr Bishop to be funny.
It's so not funny that people are confusing it with a social issues documentary.
Mr Bishop was laughing at how the Aquadome was trying to be like an American water park but it had just two crappy slides. The Aquadome is a swimming pool with slides. I've never heard anyone try to claim differently.
Mr Bishop is from America where the minimum wage is dictated by the fast food industry and the federal minimum wage is $5.15 an hour.
Well known states such as;
Kentucky
Michigan
New Jersey
New York
Texas
all offer $5.15 per hour.
Ok so not all states comply with this.
In California it's $6.75
In DC it's $6.15
In Rhode Island it's $6.75
In Washington (State) it's $7.16
But states like Florida and South Carolina have no state minimum wage law.

Bishop was trying to survive in Tralee on minimum wage, maybe he should try surviving in New York on $5.15

Macy

03/02/2004, 2:05 PM

Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.
Inflation has increased more than the minimum wage anyway, but not making people pay tax on the minimum that they can be expected to live on would be a start.
On inflation, the one thing that could be done that would start tackling it right away would be to de-regulate pubs. But even the PD's haven't the bottle for that.

Macy

03/02/2004, 2:10 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
You are joking John aren't you?
The show has nothing to do with minimum wage.
It was a poor attempt by Mr Bishop to be funny.
It's so not funny that people are confusing it with a social issues documentary.
Lighten up FFS, it was pretty funny, and it's obviously made people think about what it would be like surviving on the minimum wage. That has to be a good thing, doesn't it? Or if it makes people think before being obnoxious in the chipper, then that can't be bad....

John83

03/02/2004, 2:26 PM

Originally posted by Macy
Lighten up FFS, it was pretty funny, and it's obviously made people think about what it would be like surviving on the minimum wage. That has to be a good thing, doesn't it? Or if it makes people think before being obnoxious in the chipper, then that can't be bad....
Well said.

Originally posted by Peadar
Bishop was trying to survive in Tralee on minimum wage, maybe he should try surviving in New York on $5.15
Smacks of the drunk muppets in Waterford telling him to go back to America. He's making this for RTE, not NBC. Yes, the minimum wage is ****e in the states too. Big deal. Try telling that to the poor schmucks stuck on it here.

Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.
So maybe the poorest people in the country should take a wage freeze while the teachers look to get another 17% increase on top of the 13% they already got, and while the TDs salary has gone up for the third time in a year? Now that would be a ****ing joke.

Peadar

03/02/2004, 2:33 PM

Originally posted by John83
Smacks of the drunk muppets in Waterford telling him to go back to America.

I'm not telling anyone go back to America even if his humour is something which could only be appreciated by his fellow countrymen. All I'm saying is, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
The show may have worked with someone like Hector but as it is, it's as much a waste of the license fee the money spent buying the Osbournes.

Macy

03/02/2004, 2:41 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
I'm not telling anyone go back to America even if his humour is something which could only be appreciated by his fellow countrymen. All I'm saying is, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
The show may have worked with someone like Hector but as it is, it's as much a waste of the license fee the money spent buying the Osbournes.
Seen him quite a few times, and he's normally good.... He's been in Ireland since he was 14 or something - it's not like RTE paid for him to come over....
As for Hector - I'd suggest he'd cost more to do the programme than Bishop, as he's a far bigger name. Don't think he'd make any difference to the show and would definitely have taken away from the Abra episode merely by being Irish...

Peadar

03/02/2004, 2:56 PM

Originally posted by Macy
would definitely have taken away from the Abra episode merely by being Irish...

What, you're saying that someone from Meath wouldn't get abuse from drunkards down the country? :D

pete

03/02/2004, 4:15 PM

I've seen a bit o the show but think Hector be too recognisable to use.

Originally posted by MikeW
The most interesting point about minimum wage work is that fairly often workers in the likes of Abrakebabra work far harder than people earning vastly more than them. In particular people in the IT industry, who quite obviously do absolutely nothing whatsoever of any value for their money. Stupid IT industry.

Yeah stupid IT industry alright, it'll never catch on.
Doesn't mean (some) people don't work for their wages though.

Peadar

03/02/2004, 4:18 PM

Originally posted by pete
Doesn't mean (some) people don't work for their wages though.

The rest of us are simply paid for our intellectual genius :D

Shed End John

03/02/2004, 4:36 PM

Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.

3rd highest actually (yesterdays Examiner was where I read that).
As for the comment about wage increases, it makes you sound like a member of the Small Firms Association. How apt that their initials spell out SFA, seeing as that lot would like to see everyone getting paid Sweet F**k All!!

brendy_éire

03/02/2004, 7:45 PM

Cracker programme IMO. Especially the stand-up cut scenes. Getting his €2 stolen - brilliant. ****in meself laughing at/with(?) him. The programme also helps point out the pathetically low minimum wage in this country. And €60 for his medication. That's not on. (All health care should be provided free by the State). And while he would have been worse off on minimum wage over in Yankeeland, that's nothing to be proud of. IMO, minimum wage should be, at the very least, €10 an hour.
He's in a hotel in Dublin next week. Looking forward to it.

Peadar

04/02/2004, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by brendy_eire
And €60 for his medication. That's not on. (All health care should be provided free by the State).

I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.

tiktok

04/02/2004, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?

yeah, I'd agree, but it helps to make the point that 60euro expenses can appear out of the blue, and what that means to someone who's on minimum wage.

Originally posted by brendy_eire
He's in a hotel in Dublin next week. Looking forward to it.

he'll barely be able to afford rent, can't see him getting out of the kip he can afford much

John83

04/02/2004, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.
I'm a student, and I don't qualify for one (which I think is a disgrace). I think the card only covers the cost of medicine up to a certain value anyway. Anyone know their stuff a bit better?

John83

04/02/2004, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by tiktok
he'll barely be able to afford rent, can't see him getting out of the kip he can afford much
I read an interview with him recently, and he said that Dublin was the worst place for money (though Tralee was up there), so it should be fun.

Macy

04/02/2004, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.
I'd be very suprised if they do.... Limit is €142.50 per week, so that's just over 20 hours a week at €7....

Peadar

04/02/2004, 2:22 PM

Originally posted by John83
Anyone know their stuff a bit better?

The Internet knows everything!
Look here (http://www.oasis.gov.ie/health/health_services_in_ireland/medical_card.html?PHPSESSID=4f682fe4cda52ff76c324c e7c82dcc53)

John83

04/02/2004, 4:29 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
The Internet knows everything!
Look here (http://www.oasis.gov.ie/health/health_services_in_ireland/medical_card.html?PHPSESSID=4f682fe4cda52ff76c324c e7c82dcc53)
Thanks!

Full-time students aged 16-25 who are financially dependent on their parents would only be entitled to a medical card if their parents held a medical card. Students who are financially independent of their parents, e.g., they have income from part-time work, and who satisfy the means test may be entitled to a medical card. In this case, the health board where the student is attending college would issue the medical card.
Must look into this again. The key point is what exactly constitutes "financially independent".

the 12 th man

04/02/2004, 4:35 PM

Originally posted by A face
[B]

ill probably get hammered for this but who the Fcuk is des bishop??:confused:

pete

04/02/2004, 5:49 PM

I think minimum wage job are really designed for part-timers & students 'n such. However no one on minimum wage should pay any tax at all but FF ain't achieved much with regards that in their time in power.

brendy_éire

04/02/2004, 6:10 PM

Originally posted by the 12 th man
ill probably get hammered for this but who the Fcuk is des bishop??:confused:

N2, Monday night, 10.00. Watch it. (eejit :rolleyes: )

A face

04/02/2004, 6:15 PM

Originally posted by John83
TDs salary has gone up for the third time in a year?

Are you serious .... for what ..... when did this happen ???

B*STARDS

A face

04/02/2004, 6:28 PM

Originally posted by the 12 th man
who the Fcuk is des bishop?

He is a comedian who was living in Cork for about 4-5 years and moved to Dublin as he was getting more TV work.

He is from New York and moved here when he was 12 or something like that.

He has a very convicing Cork twang when he wants and i'm sure he'll have picked up a few more along his travels.

Still has his American twang and will always be reminded of this a lá Abra programme the other night. Typical though.

The programme is provoking debate and probably spell out a few things for a few people in the process ..... now if he could only re-enforce the message and ask people to go out and vote to try and change their situations.

Then we might have some fun !!

Macy

05/02/2004, 9:18 AM

Originally posted by A face
He is a comedian who was living in Cork for about 4-5 years and moved to Dublin as he was getting more TV work.

He is from New York and moved here when he was 12 or something like that.

He has a very convicing Cork twang when he wants and i'm sure he'll have picked up a few more along his travels
He actually went to school in Blackrock College, hence the equally convincing D4 rugger bugger accent.....

Peadar

05/02/2004, 1:07 PM

Originally posted by John83
The key point is what exactly constitutes "financially independent".

If you don't live at home and you are supporting yourself with part-time work.

Macy

05/02/2004, 1:32 PM

Originally posted by Conor74
. Previous ministers who had chosen not to bother with setting a minimum wage during their time in that Department include that champion of the working classes, Pat Rabbitte...
blah blah blah - FF/PD in coalition since 97 and still it's all the fault of those that were there before them.....

pete

05/02/2004, 4:03 PM

Think Tds got wage increase as part of "benchmarking" although your guess is as good as mine as to who they got "benchmarked" against.

:rolleyes:

A face

05/02/2004, 4:38 PM

Originally posted by pete
Think Tds got wage increase as part of "benchmarking" although your guess is as good as mine as to who they got "benchmarked" against.

:rolleyes:

They are a crooked as a bag of staples.

We should try and get the bástards out !! (http://www.p45.net/postcards/bertie_crosshairs_lge.gif)

John83

05/02/2004, 5:00 PM

Originally posted by pete
Think Tds got wage increase as part of "benchmarking" although your guess is as good as mine as to who they got "benchmarked" against.

:rolleyes:
The top bracket of the civil service. It's a disgrace nonetheless.