Stadia

[Duggie]

as a matter of interest here are norways top flight venues. light years ahead of us. some really cool venues here.

Aalesund (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_aalesund.htm)
Bodø/Glimt (http://www.stadionsiden.com/stadiums_details.asp?stadium_id=43&method=showphotos)
Brann (Bergen) (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_brann.htm)
Fredrikstad (http://www.stadionsiden.com/stadiums_details.asp?stadium_id=583&method=showphotos)
Lillestrøm (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_lillestrom.htm)
Lyn and Vålerenga (Oslo) (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_lyn.htm)
Molde (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_molde.htm)
Odd Grenland (Skien) (http://www.stadionsiden.com/stadiums_details.asp?stadium_id=704&method=showphotos)
Rosenborg (Trondheim) (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_rosenborg.htm)
Sandefjord (http://www.stadionsiden.com/stadiums_details.asp?stadium_id=574&method=showphotos)
Stabæk (http://www.stabak.no/images/stories/2008/12_desember/2008-12-15/widescreen-greengrass.jpg)
Start (Kristiansand) (http://www.stadionsiden.com/stadiums_details.asp?stadium_id=584&method=showphotos)
Strømsgodset (Drammen) (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_stromsgodset.htm)
Tromsø (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_tromso.htm)
Viking (Stavanger) (http://www.fotballbaner.no/z_viking.htm)

[ped_ped]

What I wouldn't give to trade in Jackman for the Aalesund or Brann Stadiums...

[Duggie]

there all really well designed IMO, not just plain old bowls. but rosenbergs stadium is a lovely ground. i remember watching them back in the early 90's against blackburn the first year they got into the champions league and most of the ground was just grass embankments. look at it now.

[Dunny]

What I wouldn't give to trade in Jackman for the Aalesund or Brann Stadiums...

So you could sit in an empty stadium...?:confused:

[brianw82]

Lovely stadia.

[ped_ped]

So you could sit in an empty stadium...?:confused:

I'm doing that in Jackman as it is :eek:

[irishultra]

Maby will see this here someday :rolleyes:

[Hairy Bowsie]

Whats the point of the thread? I could show you some stadims from countrys all over the world that are much better than what we have here.

[dong]

So you could sit in an empty stadium...?:confused:

Very true. Some of these are too big and would end up half empty most of the time. I think it's a matter of getting the balance right. People want better facilities but swathes of empty seats isn't conducive to atmosphere.
Personally, I like the ideas put forward by Rovers in the Vllaznia home leg programme. This would lead to a total of approximately 4,000 good quality seats after the demolition of the existing Jinks stand. This is enough to try to fill in this league for 90% of clubs.

[Duggie]

to remind ya what a kip tolka really is.

[ped_ped]

Whats the point of the thread?

The stadia of an economically similar country with a similar inexplicable infatuation with the EPL and no serious European lights.

[Duggie]

The stadia of an economically similar country with a similar inexplicable infatuation with the EPL and no serious European lights.

spot on, someone we could try and match up to.

[dong]

No GAA in Norway either.

[Hairy Bowsie]

Simple answer, their crowds are better. If we had similar crowds, we'd have similar stadiums but of course this is so obvious it almost goes without saying until now but LoI fans love to remind themselves of how bad their plight is.

LoI fans love the martyr status that being a LoI fan is. Hence threads like this and complaints when teletext get a score wrong etc. If we got the crowds like they did in Norway half the moany f*cks on here would no longer go to LoI games, claiming some nonsense of being pushed out and reminding anyone who'd listen, that they went before their respective team was popular.

[SunnySweeney]

More stadium porn. It's harmless - I'm just looking at them. Turners Cross, I swear to you, I would never cheat on you - EVER.

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/

[peadar1987]

Do Aalesund have an artificial pitch in those photos? I wonder do all the other Norwegian clubs blame anything less than a win against them on that?

[PartySaint]

Do Aalesund have an artificial pitch in those photos? I wonder do all the other Norwegian clubs blame anything less than a win against them on that?

It looked like a few of the clubs had an artificial pitch.

Duggie why did u pick Norway?

[the-blue-harp]

we are nowhere near the same as norway economically. They take advantage of their oil and gas (unlike us), arent stricken with eu quotas on fishing, their farmers produce for their country creating jobs and self sufficiency. they have booming tourism, forestry, construction and they did it all without hand outs from the EU. so we are nowhere near them economically.

There is no reason why we shouldnt have decent stadiums in this country though.

[the-blue-harp]

countries like macedonia have better stadiums than us ffs.

[peadar1987]

We have similar GDPs, but the main difference is that Norway spend their money on public services, job creation and wise investments, whereas we spend ours on electronic voting machines and private jets for ministers.

[bishbash]

all thats needed is some middle eastern billionaires to buy loi of ireland clubs and then its sorted. its so simple.....

[Black and White]

Most of the Norweigen clubs are full time though! We coudl never have those kind of facilities as the hooligan element associated with every club would destroy them. You couldnt have fans sitting on a tier above other fans as they would be spitting down on top of their own support etc!

[Black and White]

all thats needed is some middle eastern billionaires to buy loi of ireland clubs and then its sorted. its so simple.....

App theres a middle eastern businessman looking at buying welsh club Bangor city as he went to college there and attended some of their matches and now wants to drive them on like Cardiff City and Swansea City

[Umberside]

As a matter of interest Sandefjord are managed by an Irish guy called Patrick Walker. He's from Carlow and used to play with Bohs.

[irishultra]

Sandefjord....Sandyford :D-the norwegians were the people who formed dublin so it makes sense ;)

[bishbash]

i dont think that the gaa is as big a factor as people say. if you go back to the 70s when waterford played rovers they were pulling in 20000. the gaa was just a strong back then

[the-blue-harp]

i believe norways gdp is significantly better than ours.

[PartySaint]

As a matter of interest Sandefjord are managed by an Irish guy called Patrick Walker. He's from Carlow and used to play with Bohs.

He was on Setanta a few months back on the LOI part of that sport matters show, just talking about how they go about things in Norway

[Umberside]

i believe norways gdp is significantly better than ours.

Norway's GDP is second in the world (behind Luxembourg) and Ireland is fourth (behind Switzerland). Despite being behind Norway (not by much I must add) we still should have stadia that are even comparable to theirs, however, I don't see any LOI stadium that is a patch on those.

It's obvious the solution to the league's problems is investment. The football is good, the Premier Division is pretty much professional and we've been hugely successful in Europe.

The only thing that is keeping the league back is investment & stadia.

[the-blue-harp]

and also the fact ireland is full of useless wan*ers :D
it really is pathetic. and no one gives a ****.

[the-blue-harp]

Norway's GDP is second in the world (behind Luxembourg) and Ireland is fourth (behind Switzerland). Despite being behind Norway (not by much I must add) we still should have stadia that are even comparable to theirs, however, I don't see any LOI stadium that is a patch on those.

It's obvious the solution to the league's problems is investment. The football is good, the Premier Division is pretty much professional and we've been hugely successful in Europe.

The only thing that is keeping the league back is investment & stadia.

we boomed, now were bust.
Norway has always had a strong economy for years. They actually manage to have jobs for their inhabitants, imagine that!

[joema]

No GAA in Norway either.

Yep. Thats a big part of it. When it comes to soccer and the GAA, there is no doubting which sport benefits the most from government money :mad:

Despite the fact that soccer is the number one participant sport in the country.

Another big problem is the fact that the FAI seem more interested in pouring all their money into the national team, and not the LOI.

We will never have stadia like that in Ireland. Other big diif is the fact that the Norwegian stadia are clean!

[Schumi]

Most of the Norweigen clubs are full time though! We coudl never have those kind of facilities as the hooligan element associated with every club would destroy them. You couldnt have fans sitting on a tier above other fans as they would be spitting down on top of their own support etc!

What a ridiculous post. You think there's a bigger hooligan problem here than in England, Germany, Italy, Holland, etc.?

[Umberside]

There is no hooligan element in the League of Ireland.

[ped_ped]

Theres probably a little. But it's insubstantial in comparison to England, Scotland, Italy...

[dong]

Most of the Norweigen clubs are full time though! We coudl never have those kind of facilities as the hooligan element associated with every club would destroy them. You couldnt have fans sitting on a tier above other fans as they would be spitting down on top of their own support etc!
Are you for real?? Even the dirtbags supporting Dundalk wouldn't be a patch on the hooligan elements in other countries.

[Dunny]

Are you for real?? Even the dirtbags supporting Dundalk wouldn't be a patch on the hooligan elements in other countries.

Here who the fu...Wait, actually, your spot on. That's all they are.

Hooligans me arse..:rolleyes: Wannabes.

[irishultra]

yeah i doubt anyone in the norwegian goverment ever came out with crap like theres too many people for such a small island. summed up this country imo.

[Hooples]

wonder what kind of half time snacks are sold in norwegian grounds?:rolleyes:
so, so tired of chips...

[peadar1987]

yeah i doubt anyone in the norwegian goverment ever came out with crap like theres too many people for such a small island. summed up this country imo.


I'd be seriously worried if they did, seeing as Norway is clearly not an island! :D
http://www.studyabroad.com/content/portals/maps/Norway_map.jpg

[sheao]

The state of some LOI grounds is just shocking. Some are probably still the same as they were 10 years ago.

[Umberside]

The state of some LOI grounds is just shocking. Some are probably still the same as they were 10 years ago.

Goodison Park and Anfield are the same as they were ten years ago. The problem is that LOI grounds were sh1t ten years ago and places like Tolka have become sub-standard.

[peadar1987]

The state of some LOI grounds is just shocking. Some are probably still the same as they were 10 years ago.

Bray have a new wall!

[gufc2000]

A different class

[Da Real Rover]

Very true. Some of these are too big and would end up half empty most of the time. I think it's a matter of getting the balance right. People want better facilities but swathes of empty seats isn't conducive to atmosphere.
Personally, I like the ideas put forward by Rovers in the Vllaznia home leg programme. This would lead to a total of approximately 4,000 good quality seats after the demolition of the existing Jinks stand. This is enough to try to fill in this league for 90% of clubs.
Would it not be wiser developing the shed end and the railway end than demolishing the jinks which is miles ahead of both the shed end and the railway end?

[redobit]

Would it not be wiser developing the shed end and the railway end than demolishing the jinks which is miles ahead of both the shed end and the railway end?

Traditionally the goal ends in the Showgrounds have been for standing, and for me Id like it kept that way.

The thing about developing the Jinks side is that your creating an overall building for facilities like a sports hall, gym, hospitality etc., not just a new seated stand. A well planned project now, catering for all the amenities you need in a modern football club, is the way to go. Of course planning it and building it are too completely different things.

I still think we need to develop a bar/ function room that is close to the Churchill boundary of the site. Let it be accessed seperatly from the rest of the Showgrounds during the week so it can hold functions, birthdays, bingo, whatever and on match day open it to fans. You could lease it out if you didnt want to get involved in the day-to-day running of it, and it would be a good money spinner.

[Da Real Rover]

I thought those amenities were going to be introduced in the Shed End?
Would a developed terrace with the possibility of seating being introduced for European games be a better idea than demolishing the jinks stand?

[neutrino]

I thought those amenities were going to be introduced in the Shed End?
Would a developed terrace with the possibility of seating being introduced for European games be a better idea than demolishing the jinks stand?

There's been a longstanding aim to develop the Jinks stand, which as Redobit says would give us more than just a stand. There was some sort of inkling a couple years ago about something being done at the shed end-cant remember what it was though.

[Umberside]

I was at the Showgrounds two weeks ago and it seemed there is a lot of room for development. I would say ye could have a 10,000 all-seater stadium there, would I be right?

[De Town]

I would say ye could have a 10,000 all-seater stadium there, would I be right?

Yeah, sounds like a great idea alright, but whats the point in any Irish team having a 10,000 seater stadium? Waste of money that they don't have.