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the-blue-harp
21/07/2009, 1:30 PM
after watching sky sports coverage of the rovers game last night which I thought was very proffesional and well researched coverage by the sky sports on shamrock rovers and the league of ireland. I am starting to think that if sky sports started covering our league in the summer months when their season is finished, it would do wonders for the league. It would be real proffesional coverage and would fill a gap for sky sports. I do think it may be time that the irish sky tv customer got something back from sky tv, and they started to reinvest some of that money back into ireland.

I know the chances are slim to none, but i think it would be just what the league needs to get sponsorships and interest into the league.

dong
21/07/2009, 1:37 PM
I hate sky coverage of football. However, they do put together a package that seems to appeal to the masses so I agree it would be a good thing.
I think it's unlikely though.

Dodge
21/07/2009, 1:44 PM
We should also get ESPN to show it in the USA



Pop quiz, hot shots;

Who were the first LOI team to be shown live on Sky Sports?

belfastred
21/07/2009, 1:45 PM
SKY do our games up North (only 5 a season mind you) but their coverage is usually well researched

Duggie
21/07/2009, 1:48 PM
when u watch LOI games on RTE its so dull and boring and slow and boring. there's no imagination in that station and they wouldnt have a clue how to advertise the games properly. If sky started showing games it would be great but why would they.

Noelys Guitar
21/07/2009, 1:49 PM
after watching sky sports coverage of the rovers game last night which I thought was very proffesional and well researched coverage by the sky sports on shamrock rovers and the league of ireland. I am starting to think that if sky sports started covering our league in the summer months when their season is finished, it would do wonders for the league. It would be real proffesional coverage and would fill a gap for sky sports. I do think it may be time that the irish sky tv customer got something back from sky tv, and they started to reinvest some of that money back into ireland.

I know the chances are slim to none, but i think it would be just what the league needs to get sponsorships and interest into the league.

Tommy Smith who is the main football co-commentator for ESPN has suggested ESPN should look into broadcasting a LOI highlights show worldwide. Do not underestimate the worldwide public appeal for competitve football especially during the summer months . It would bring some serious money into the LOI and would further enhance the leagues profile.

Rovers Maniac
21/07/2009, 1:52 PM
We should also get ESPN to show it in the USA



Pop quiz, hot shots;

Who were the first LOI team to be shown live on Sky Sports?

Was it St Pats v Liverpool or Leeds, in the tournement in Dulin a few years back?

centre mid
21/07/2009, 2:00 PM
Shels wasnt it

christo
21/07/2009, 2:04 PM
As mentioned before the northern fa organised that sky show 5 of their games, so why can't the FAI do the same

ger121
21/07/2009, 2:06 PM
Was it Derry when they played Celtic?

Dodge
21/07/2009, 2:09 PM
It was Derry in the 1997 "Carlsberg" tournament. The other teams were Celtic, Newcastle and PSV

The following year the teams involved were Pats, Liverpool, Leeds and Lazio

strangeirish
21/07/2009, 2:10 PM
Was it St Pats v Liverpool or Leeds, in the tournement in Dulin a few years back?They have a pitch in Dulin?...Only thought they had a few pubs down that way...:D

Sheridan
21/07/2009, 2:13 PM
That Derry game was on RTÉ as well. I think Jim Crawford scored for Newcastle against Derry in the final.

mypost
21/07/2009, 2:15 PM
when u watch LOI games on RTE its so dull and boring and slow and boring. there's no imagination in that station and they wouldnt have a clue how to advertise the games properly. If sky started showing games it would be great but why would they.

Sky are great marketeers, the fact that there "are only 38 days to go before the PL season starts" is a headline for them rather than a mere fact, shows that they can market nothing, and make nothing look good.

RTE's coverage of our league is appalling by comparison. 5 minutes pre-match build-up, 5 minutes post-match round up, and only 5 of the 11 league games shown in highlights every weekend. The bare minimum from the state broadcaster. Setanta make a good attempt at it, but are let down by crap pundits, and very boring commentators. Still, when they lose the bohs coverage obsession, they are the best LOI network around at the moment.

Duggie
21/07/2009, 2:18 PM
ya usually peter collins by the side of the pitch freezing like a snow man interviewing richo or someone. pathetic.

Ozymandias
21/07/2009, 2:41 PM
when u watch LOI games on RTE its so dull and boring and slow and boring. there's no imagination in that station and they wouldnt have a clue how to advertise the games properly. If sky started showing games it would be great but why would they.
Do what the north do..as part of the package or deal woith the national team they have to show some of the lOI matches

Duggie
21/07/2009, 2:49 PM
It was Derry in the 1997 "Carlsberg" tournament. The other teams were Celtic, Newcastle and PSV

The following year the teams involved were Pats, Liverpool, Leeds and Lazio

i remember the carlsberg tournament, that was on tv wasnt it.
dont remember the following year one though. how did pats do in that one ?

Razors left peg
21/07/2009, 2:59 PM
Not normally a big Sky Sports fan but I thought the coverage of the game last night was very professional, even down to the commentators attending another game previous to it just to get used to the LOI a little bit.

pineapple stu
21/07/2009, 4:08 PM
Do what the north do..as part of the package or deal woith the national team they have to show some of the lOI matches
That's how we have MNS.


i remember the carlsberg tournament, that was on tv wasnt it.
dont remember the following year one though. how did pats do in that one ?
They lost 3-2 to Liverpool in Lansdowne. Don't remember how they did in the 3rd/4th place play off. Think they went 1-0 up too. Was it Hawkins? Stole in through the middle unmarked and tapped home a set piece. Stunned Lansdowne into silence. Danny Murphy scored a cracker, Patrik Berger and Karl Heinz Riedle also scored. Think Pat's scored last, and it was 3-2 at half time.

Edit - here (http://www.ieptournaments.com/archive1998.php) we go. Lost 4-1 to Lazio.

Martinho II
21/07/2009, 4:25 PM
It was an excellent program on sky..I was gobsmacked to hear that Frank Stapleton was a big shamrock rovers fan when he was growing up.. their piece on the history of the club was exceptional.That was the first time ever I saw clips of Dermot Morgan singing in a pub to fundraise to keep Milltown open. The clips from their last league winning season in 1994 I have never seen on rte. The sooner they come into the league of ireland bidding the better it will be for Irish football...

dcfcsteve
21/07/2009, 4:37 PM
It was Derry in the 1997 "Carlsberg" tournament. The other teams were Celtic, Newcastle and PSV

The following year the teams involved were Pats, Liverpool, Leeds and Lazio

Two more questions for you all :

1) What was the first LOI European fixture shown live on Irish TV ?

2) What was the first LOI domestic fixture shown live on TV ?

Drogman.
21/07/2009, 4:38 PM
Agreed with everything.

We've all had our say about the hype Sky put on things and make nothing into something, but at least it looks good and I'm sure if Sky Sports were showing Rovers V Bohs or whoever on that night, there wouldn't be too many people asking for it to be turned off in the pubs like it is now with RTE or Setanta.

They made the EPL the money crazy success that it is today, so sure why not have a go at the LOI :D

joema
21/07/2009, 5:14 PM
after watching sky sports coverage of the rovers game last night which I thought was very proffesional and well researched coverage by the sky sports on shamrock rovers and the league of ireland. I am starting to think that if sky sports started covering our league in the summer months when their season is finished, it would do wonders for the league. It would be real proffesional coverage and would fill a gap for sky sports. I do think it may be time that the irish sky tv customer got something back from sky tv, and they started to reinvest some of that money back into ireland.

I know the chances are slim to none, but i think it would be just what the league needs to get sponsorships and interest into the league.

Not a bad idea, I suppose.

The FAI could use the league as a bargaining tool when selling the international rights to Sky.

Think thats why a few Irish league matches are shown on Sky already.

dcfcsteve
21/07/2009, 5:54 PM
Not a bad idea, I suppose.

The FAI could use the league as a bargaining tool when selling the international rights to Sky.

Think thats why a few Irish league matches are shown on Sky already.

Problem is that the comercial value of ROI matches is relatively low, since the government bowed to RTE pressure and insisted that the games had to be shown on terrestrial TV as well as Sky. And as RTE own two of the terrestrial channels out-right, has a share in the third and has vastly deeper income than the other channels, surprise surprise it's RTE that gets to buy the games as well as Sky.

Anyways - as already stated, the FAI has already done this deal with RTE. Hence MNS.

MariborKev
21/07/2009, 6:05 PM
Two more questions for you all :

1) What was the first LOI European fixture shown live on Irish TV ?

2) What was the first LOI domestic fixture shown live on TV ?

2) Shels v Derry, 96/97 season

mypost
21/07/2009, 6:20 PM
Two more questions for you all :

1) What was the first LOI European fixture shown live on Irish TV ?

Probably Derry v Benfica.

Greenforever
21/07/2009, 6:35 PM
The RTE deal will be up for renewal at some stage, and I think if the FAI proposed a package that would include all home interantionals and 1 compulsory live EL match every week and a certain amount of FAI cup games, the govt may be forced to review the legislation demanding qualifiers be shown on terestrial tv, allowing Sky in.

If Sky were showing the EL every week it would probably result in the games being picked up by other broadcasters worldwide as well.

Such a deal would open loads of commercial oportunities for all clubs with major mutinationals such as stadium naming rights etc.

topia
21/07/2009, 6:41 PM
It was an excellent program on sky..I was gobsmacked to hear that Frank Stapleton was a big shamrock rovers fan when he was growing up.. their piece on the history of the club was exceptional.That was the first time ever I saw clips of Dermot Morgan singing in a pub to fundraise to keep Milltown open. The clips from their last league winning season in 1994 I have never seen on rte. The sooner they come into the league of ireland bidding the better it will be for Irish football...


frank, when doing the fai cup draw was asked what club he would have the greatest affiliation to... frank replied 'well sporting fingal would be closest to where i grew up'... not a mention of rovers

Noelys Guitar
21/07/2009, 8:10 PM
Most if not all Irish born international players over 45 years of age would have gone to LOI matches when they were kids. Rovers had huge support in the 60's and very early 70's. As had Waterford, Cork Hibs and a few other teams.

DmanDmythDledge
21/07/2009, 8:15 PM
The RTE deal will be up for renewal at some stage, and I think if the FAI proposed a package that would include all home interantionals and 1 compulsory live EL match every week...
That was part of the deal- it just hasn't come in yet. Can't remember what season it will be but RTÉ will increase the number of live games they show each season and will eventually show one each week.

Boo_Boy
21/07/2009, 8:26 PM
That 1 game per week starts in 2011 or 2012, can't remember which but It's one of them...

crc
21/07/2009, 8:54 PM
Was it Derry when they played Celtic?

That Derry game was on RTÉ as well
The Final, Derry v Newcastle, was on Sky.
The Semi-Final, Derry v Celtic, was on RTE the day before.

RTE also showed the 3rd/4th place game and Sky had the final; nobody expected Derry to beat Celtic. :D
Although as a kid sitting at home in Derry without Sky, I was just a little put out that I didn't get to see Derry on TV a second time :p

eamo1
21/07/2009, 9:18 PM
I was at both of those tournaments 2 yrs in a row.The first year was the best.Also in that year i got Kenny Dagleish's autograph as he was manager of Newcastle back then.We stayed behind under the stand after the games and got loads of autographs when the players were getting onto the bus,as a young teenager back then it was a "cool" day:).
Sky could be showing an under 10s match and would still make a good effort in terms of research,marketing and presentation etc.

Big Ears
21/07/2009, 9:19 PM
That 1 game per week starts in 2011 or 2012, can't remember which but It's one of them...

Depressingly I think Con Murphy said 2013 on MNS yesterday.

Greenforever
21/07/2009, 9:39 PM
That 1 game per week starts in 2011 or 2012, can't remember which but It's one of them...


As much as im not a sky fan, they would be far better for the league, and i'd love to know why we have to wait another 3 yrs for weekly live matches, also will it be same time every week, same channel or a case of 3 or 4 different channels showing matches at various times...

peadar1987
21/07/2009, 11:02 PM
If the FAI offered the rights to some LOI games to Sky as part of the international package, would it be worth it for the exposure the league would get, and would Sky bother to show them?

Candystripe
22/07/2009, 3:05 AM
The Final, Derry v Newcastle, was on Sky.
The Semi-Final, Derry v Celtic, was on RTE the day before.

RTE also showed the 3rd/4th place game and Sky had the final; nobody expected Derry to beat Celtic. :D
Although as a kid sitting at home in Derry without Sky, I was just a little put out that I didn't get to see Derry on TV a second time :p

Almost right.

The semi-final Derry 3 Celtic 2 was only shown on Sky Sports Scotland at that time although the final was indeed shown on Sky sports world wide.

The Derry 1 V Benfica 2 game was shown live by RTE and was the main game on match of the day on the BBC that night.

:footnote: Benfica lost in the final that year and it was the same team minus De Canio that went on to win the SPL that year for Celtic who started the game.

christo
22/07/2009, 11:29 AM
If the FAI offered the rights to some LOI games to Sky as part of the international package, would it be worth it for the exposure the league would get, and would Sky bother to show them?

If they are willing to show five Irish League games why wouldn't they show LOI matches

Noelys Guitar
22/07/2009, 11:32 AM
If the FAI offered the rights to some LOI games to Sky as part of the international package, would it be worth it for the exposure the league would get, and would Sky bother to show them?

The Autralian A league is shown on Sky Affiliates around the world as a weekly one hour highlights package show. And I consider the LOI to be at least as good as the Aussie league.

endabob1
22/07/2009, 11:39 AM
I remember seeing the FAI Cup final highlights a few years back on Sky, not sure what the deal was, I assume it was a one off.

The FAI Missed the boat when they sold the International games to sky a few years ago that was the time to strike. Until that comes up again Sky won't be breaking the door down.

endabob1
22/07/2009, 11:40 AM
The Autralian A league is shown on Sky Affiliates around the world as a weekly one hour highlights package show. And I consider the LOI to be at least as good as the Aussie league.


The Australian Football Association packeaged the A League games in with the Soccerroo games when they sold the package to Fox, which is why it's in the Sky family