Weekend Latest 10/07

[Magicme]

FT 4-0 at Morton Stadium

[GuisaSaigon]

Derry 0-1 Drogs:eek:

[thischarmingman]

For crying out f***king loud!

[cheifo]

Bray-Rovers will restart in 10 mins,
A child seriously injured when a wall/hoarding collapsed :(

Disturbing news. Really hope its not as bad as reported.

[Longfordian]

Seems to be a man rather than a kid according to extratime. In a neckbrace but pumping his fists at the crowd on the way out!. Unless there's another injury, I didnt check all the way down. Drogs win by the way.

[MeathDrog]

derry 0-1 drogs:eek:
yeaahhhhhh

[brianw82]

Derry 0-1 Drogs:eek:

Drogs were 8/1 with Betfair to win. :eek:

[Longfordian]

Mathews is a top man for getting the best from small resources. The players in general want to play for him. Hope he keeps Drogs up as he's a gent as well. If it were a choice between he and Doolin on their own merits and regardless of circumstances there's only one winner for me.

[brianw82]

All over in Bray, 2-1 to Shamrock Rovers. O'Connor sent off in injury time.

[Dotsy]

Was at the match with my 8 year old daughter. We were watching the start of the second half leaning on the wall right where it collapsed at the corner flag. She was feeling sick so we left early. Was not too happy having to leave at the time but feeling blessed now. There were loads of kids along the wall beside us. Hope the one that was injured is ok.

[dfclilywhite]

I honestly didn't think refereeing in this league could get any worse but seriously some of the decisions made tonight were beyond an absolute joke.

[kkontour]

I honestly didn't think refereeing in this league could get any worse but seriously some of the decisions made tonight were beyond an absolute joke.

eh, richie winters, worst referee, ever!
He has never had a good game that I have seen,

[dfclilywhite]

eh, richie winters, worst referee, ever!
He has never had a good game that I have seen,

At least if he's going to be bad, be bad for both teams. Bohs got everything tonight.

[Ezeikial]

eh, richie winters, worst referee, ever!
He has never had a good game that I have seen,

Just in from the game in Oriel - Bohs were clear winners, and the game was over as a contest when Michael Daly was sent off after 15 minutes.

It's very difficult to be objective about referring decisions when you are passionately engrossed in the game; but to me this was an outrageous red card and ruined the game - Bohs are hard enough to play against with 11 men!

Curious to hear the red carding views from anyone who watched on Setanta (with the benefits of replay) - how did the commentators or analyists view it?

[Gareth]

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[superfrank]

Kid that was near the wall when it fell walked off. He didn't look hurt, just shocked. A man was taking off to hospital on a stretcher with a neck brace but he was moving his arms so it could just have been a precaution.

[Sam_Heggy]

What a result for Kildare County tonight, one nil down to win four one :eek:

I think most people felt they would get a result tonight but not by that margin.

Major result for Shels tonight in the title race for the first division. They are now four points clear with a game in hand.

Big blow for Derry tonight and it's Rovers now looking more likely challengers for the title having put together a much more consistent run of late and Derry are just so unpredictable. They can beat Bohs one week then lose to Drogs/Bray the next, not the form of a title winning side imo.

At the bottom end, Galway really needed that win, with Drogs winning the pressure would have really been on, now it looks like Sligo are the team looking over their shoulder. Bray's future looks more and more bleak by each passing game tbh.

[Black and White]

Anyone watch our game with the gypos? What ye think of the ref? I think he deserves to be repeatedly kicked in the balls for that performance tonight.:mad::mad::mad:

[tippex]

Dang, there'll be consequences for both clubs for this, I'd say!

Havent been over that side of the ground in a good few years. But it seemed a bit weird because it was at the bowling alley end right at the corner flag and that are has been cordoned off for quite a while.

When twigg scored quite a few fans ran onto the pitch and he ran towards the area of wall which collapsed my guess was that the fans pushed forward and the wall collapsed then.

Can't really blame the fans, not sure if you can really blame Bray.

It will be interesting to see what the FAI do as a result of this as if they do hold Bray responsible with a fine etc then surely they have to take a huge amount of responsibility for
a) then they are saying the ground is not safe however they deemed it safe by giving us a license
b) they arent taking the infrastructure seriously as they need to make funds available to all clubs to bring their grounds up to standard

Hope anyone injured are ok.

[Black and White]

For the attention of Bray and Derry Fans:

Bray: WHat happened there tonight? WHich wall fell, was it the small wall surrounding the pitch or the bigger walls around the ground itself?

Derry: What happened both on and off the pitch? Bomb scare? was there much Drogs up?

[tippex]

For the attention of Bray and Derry Fans:

Bray: WHat happened there tonight? WHich wall fell, was it the small wall surrounding the pitch or the bigger walls around the ground itself?

Derry: What happened both on and off the pitch? Bomb scare? was there much Drogs up?

It was the small wall surrounding the pitch literally at the corner flag on the away fans side (dart side)

[Gareth]

The Wall in question was here: http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/2136/

Derry - controlled explosion on the bridge area I think.

[superfrank]

It will be interesting to see what the FAI do as a result of this as if they do hold Bray responsible with a fine etc then surely they have to take a huge amount of responsibility for
a) then they are saying the ground is not safe however they deemed it safe by giving us a license
b) they arent taking the infrastructure seriously as they need to make funds available to all clubs to bring their grounds up to standard.
I imagine we'll have to tear down the entire wall and rebuild it. If one part of the wall is unsafe then it doesn't bode well for the rest of it. Whether the FAI will foot the bill is anyone's guess.

[dcfc1928]

Derry: What happened both on and off the pitch? Bomb scare? was there much Drogs up?

Bomb scare after a van was left on the bottom deck of Craigavon Bridge. Not too near the ground but a major through road so the game was put back ten minutes to allow people to cross the Foyle Bridge and make their way from there.

On the pitch, we couldn't break them down and were hit by a sucker punch with 2 minutes left. Our own fault for not finishing Drogs off when we were in control. Decent travelling support as well. Fair play to the Drogs supporters, I guess quite a few of them missed a good part of the game because of the bomb scare though as there seemed to be very few there when the game kicked off.

[Aaron]

For the attention of Bray and Derry Fans:

Bray: WHat happened there tonight? WHich wall fell, was it the small wall surrounding the pitch or the bigger walls around the ground itself?

Derry: What happened both on and off the pitch? Bomb scare? was there much Drogs up?

Yeah, one of our work vans was hi-jacked and a suspected bomb placed in the van, told him to drive to Craigavon bridge. Bridge is closed and will be for a while yet. About 150 Drogs fans up.

On the pitch, Derry played like we did last week pure and utter ****e!!

[Jicked]

As far as I could make out from maybe 100m away, what happened at Bray was. ..Twigg scored after a fumble by the Bray keeper. Twigg runs over to the Rovers end, crowd run up to and obviously push against the wall. Wall collapses, fans leaning on the wall sent flying Fans ran on due to Twigg's reaction, he obviously saw the wall collapse straight away and was worried for the kid so stopped running over to the fans and started pointing at the wall. To the fans who hadn't seen the wall go down it probably looked like some nonchalant Ronaldo style celebration and that he was pointing to the fans/calling them on.

It wasn't too dramatic, one fan hospitalised in a neck brace and being given oxygen but was waving as being taken away, the kid who was hurt wasn't seriously hurt and walked away with a cut too his leg apparently though I'm sure it was pretty scary for the kid/parents. It wasn't a large volume of Rovers fans, nor was it a fact they were running on the pitch.

Apparently one Bray official mentioned that a collapse had been 'on the cards' so I'd imagine they'll be in a bit of bother about the state of that. The Garda reaction was glacial, very poor response from them, they couldn't even manage or try to ask all fans to move away from the wall until about 10 minutes after it happens Bray officials asked them to do so. Just shows how inept the Gardaí would be if anything serious did occur.

[Jicked]

Good game of football in the Carlisle Grounds besides all that, though Buttimer had a shocker, booking Rovers players for nothing, and then doesn't book Sives for a bad challenge that resulted in a Bray player going off injured. Sean O'Connor given a red card for dissent long after Buttimer had lost control of the game. Awful performance from the man in black.

[centre mid]

Awful performance from the man in black.

There have been far worse performances this season, actually thought he wasnt too bad tonight, not too fussy.

[superfrank]

On the wall, it was a nice touch by Michael O'Neill to come over and ask the Rovers fans to move away from the bit where the wall collapsed.

[Jicked]

There have been far worse performances this season, actually thought he wasnt too bad tonight, not too fussy.
Booking Baker for simulation when he had the Bray keeper on top of him? Then not booking two Bray players for simulation despite waving them to their feet? Booking Rovers players for niggly fouls, not Bray players. Missing a rather obvious (or so it seemed) Rovers penalty in the first half when Sean O'Connor had his jersey pulled back. Not booking Craig Sives for a terrible foul on the Bray no. 12, he didn't even give a free kick! When the wall was down he was over checking with security staff how it was going, took time out to smirk, wink and chat back to Rovers fans shouting from the stands.

Don't think it's one for his scrapbook.

[tippex]

In fairness to him someone had to cause there was no way they seemed to be listening to the stewards.

[Jicked]

On the wall, it was a nice touch by Michael O'Neill to come over and ask the Rovers fans to move away from the bit where the wall collapsed.

It was indeed, MON had obviously been asked by the Bray security official which was a nice touch indeed and common sense from both parties. But I was right by where he came over and he was the first person to ask people to do so. This was 10 or so minutes after the game was stopped, and not a single Garda (most of whom looked about 19 years old and like they hadn't a clue what to do) had gotten their act together and taken command of a relatively minor situation.

[pineapple stu]

At the risk of sounding like Dodge, my God, Shels are a horrible, nasty, petty, vicious little team. Any chance for some niggle, they went in for it. Bear hugs from free kicks, kicking the ball away for every throw or free, some nasty, nasty challenges (McGill and Keely in particular booked for a horrible and cynical foul respectively). Referee did nothing about it. Finn was an idiot to retaliate, and Hilda's an effing wench to somehow rule out our perfectly good equaliser. How you can be offside when the ball's played backwards, when you're behind the ball, and when the opposition keeper plays it to you is beyond me (or else how she called the ball out for a goal kick, which I don't think she did anyway).

Games like that make me really really hope Shels' season ends the same way as last season. A horrible, nasty little side. The day Keely leaves this league will be a massively positive day for all concerned.

Was delighted how we responded after going 1-0 down and down to ten men though. Some of the best ball we've played in the past few weeks. Finn's out for a game anyway - probably three - but hopefully we can use the experience of this game and build on it.

(Obviously the wall incident puts all that into context, before anyone points that out)

[thischarmingman]

Just in from the game in Oriel - Bohs were clear winners, and the game was over as a contest when Michael Daly was sent off after 15 minutes.

Curious to hear the red carding views from anyone who watched on Setanta (with the benefits of replay)

Looked a red to me, it was a reckless challenge. I can understand frustration at having a player sent off just 15 minutes into a game, but as someone who detests "It's too early in the game to award a penalty/send off a player" arguments I thought it was the right decision.

[centre mid]

Booking Baker for simulation when he had the Bray keeper on top of him? It wa the 2nd time Baker had done it.


Then not booking two Bray players for simulation despite waving them to their feet? Robinson guilty of the same thing on more than one occasion.


Booking Rovers players for niggly fouls, not Bray players. Who?


Missing a rather obvious (or so it seemed) Rovers penalty in the first half when Sean O'Connor had his jersey pulled back. Your're having a laugh there, watch MNS.


Not booking Craig Sives for a terrible foul on the Bray no. 12, he didn't even give a free kick! Agreed.


When the wall was down he was over checking with security staff how it was going, took time out to smirk, wink and chat back to Rovers fans shouting from the stands. Not sure what has to do with his refereeing.

Like I said there have been worse displays this season, especially at the Carlisle. I think everyone agrees the standard of the ref's in the league is dire at the moment. Kelly making the champions league list doesnt cover over the cracks.

[thischarmingman]

At the risk of sounding like Dodge, my God, Shels are a horrible, nasty, petty, vicious little team. Any chance for some niggle, they went in for it. Bear hugs from free kicks, kicking the ball away for every throw or free, some nasty, nasty challenges (McGill and Keely in particular booked for a horrible and cynical foul respectively). Referee did nothing about it. Finn was an idiot to retaliate, and Hilda's an effing wench to somehow rule out our perfectly good equaliser. How you can be offside when the ball's played backwards, when you're behind the ball, and when the opposition keeper plays it to you is beyond me (or else how she called the ball out for a goal kick, which I don't think she did anyway).

Games like that make me really really hope Shels' season ends the same way as last season. A horrible, nasty little side. The day Keely leaves this league will be a massively positive day for all concerned.

Was delighted how we responded after going 1-0 down and down to ten men though. Some of the best ball we've played in the past few weeks. Finn's out for a game anyway - probably three - but hopefully we can use the experience of this game and build on it.

(Obviously the wall incident puts all that into context, before anyone points that out)

What was Shels goal like, Stu?

[pineapple stu]

Poor from our point of view. Shels lad got space on the right inside the box, sent a cross low across goal which somehow went all the way to the far post, where O'Brien scrambled home just ahead of our defender.

Actually, it was almost identical to our "goal", which was offside somehow.

[Calcio Jack]

Sham Rovers 2-1 up, and some of their fans invade the pitch to celebrate resulting in an injury when a wall apparently collapsed

To set the record straight, I was right beside where the incident happened, and no Rovers fans ran on the pitch... people were leaning against the wall and cheering Twigg as he had just scored, the number of people at the wall was "one deep" and the wall simply collapsed, resulting in approx 6/7 fans falling over with it, which resulted in one adult fan been taken away with a suspected broken leg, from what I could see the child seemed ok but very shocked.... as for Bray they should be ashamed of themselves , all the stewards around us were commenting about how they expected something like this was bound to happen....as for the FAI passing such a run-down stadium , well they are just as culpable.

[centre mid]

Rovers fans did run onto the pitch, although this in no way caused the collapse of the wall. The surge of fans rush to congratulate Twigg however did. No doubt there will be an enquiry into this and rightly so.

[Calcio Jack]

Rovers fans did run onto the pitch, although this in no way caused the collapse of the wall. The surge of fans rush to congratulate Twigg however did. No doubt there will be an enquiry into this and rightly so.

So why then were other posters mentioning Rovers fans running onto the pitch in the context of the wall collapsing ? Also it was not a surge... the people against the wall were standing leaning against it before he scored... as I said it was "one deep" and the wall simply collapsed...so don't be making comments that in any way appear to implicate Rovers fans as being in any manner responsible for this.

[centre mid]

The Rovers fans who ran onto the pitch DID NOT cause the collapse of the wall. The surge of fans did result in the collapse of the wall, obviously there was an existing problem with it and no doubt there are some seroius questions to be asked.

[Arnold Layne]

You can speculate all you want guys, here's what really happened.

http://phillaldinho.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=204&p=11719#p11719

This site always seems to get the news and scoops first for some reason

http://phillaldinho.com/forum/index.php

[Calcio Jack]

The Rovers fans who ran onto the pitch DID NOT cause the collapse of the wall. The surge of fans did result in the collapse of the wall, obviously there was an existing problem with it and no doubt there are some seroius questions to be asked.

We can spend all night on this... there was no surge by the fans unless you call leaning on a wall a surge ?? Anyway as you say some serious questions and hopefully those negligible within BWFC, the FAI and the relevent H&S authorities if proven to be culpable will have the decency to accept responsibilty and resign.... some how doubt it.

[centre mid]

Dont think they have a choice, I'd imagine that any incident like this that Uefa would be peering at not to mention insurance claims. That wall is only there since about 97' ish it shouldnt have collapsed like that.

[brianw82]

On a happier note, I'd imagine there are some celebrations on the Kildare team bus tonight. :)

[brianw82]

From RTE:


Brian King was hailed the Drogheda hero as his 88th minute winning goal extended the Boynesiders' unbeaten run to six matches.
The midfielder got his head to a cross from the left during Drogheda's only real attack in the second half to seriously dent the Candystripes championship aspirations.
This has been pointed out on MNS. King nearly scored against us last Sunday, sneaking in at the back post. Surely Kenny highlighted this to his left back? :confused:

[MeathDrog]

A lot of our goals this season have been headers.

[brianw82]

Aye, but I'm talking specifically about the tactic of King drifting in from the right wing to get headers at the far post. It's not exactly a secret by this stage.

[Hulsey]

Booking Baker for simulation when he had the Bray keeper on top of him? Then not booking two Bray players for simulation despite waving them to their feet? Booking Rovers players for niggly fouls, not Bray players. Missing a rather obvious (or so it seemed) Rovers penalty in the first half when Sean O'Connor had his jersey pulled back. Not booking Craig Sives for a terrible foul on the Bray no. 12, he didn't even give a free kick! When the wall was down he was over checking with security staff how it was going, took time out to smirk, wink and chat back to Rovers fans shouting from the stands.

Don't think it's one for his scrapbook.

Pretty sure he was booked for having a little kick at skippy. Could have gone on another night for that, silly stuff from someone as experienced as him

[Hulsey]

To set the record straight, I was right beside where the incident happened, and no Rovers fans ran on the pitch... people were leaning against the wall and cheering Twigg as he had just scored, the number of people at the wall was "one deep" and the wall simply collapsed, resulting in approx 6/7 fans falling over with it, which resulted in one adult fan been taken away with a suspected broken leg, from what I could see the child seemed ok but very shocked.... as for Bray they should be ashamed of themselves , all the stewards around us were commenting about how they expected something like this was bound to happen....as for the FAI passing such a run-down stadium , well they are just as culpable.

Are you blind or taking the p!ss? Clearly rovers fans on the pitch before the wall went. As centre mid said the fans on the pitch didn't caused the collapse, but to say there were no rovers fans on the pitch and there wasn't a serge to the wall by the fans is naive at best. How they were allowed get to the wall is another matter, obviously stewards not paying proper attention.