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Who do ye reckon is gonna win it this year?? Nigeria are looking good with Jay Jay in such good form
Still think Cameroon, mind you not to sure about that all in one kit, but a great tournament that i love watching, great football.
adamcarr
25/01/2004, 4:37 PM
Cameroon will probably win it but nigeria and senegal have a good chance . Tunisia didn't look too convincing against rwanda yesterday and maybe mali have a chance with freddie kanoute
Good to see the matchs live on eurosport.
i can see Cameroon, Mali or Senegal being the three favs.
and speaking of african football
http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=11935&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes
If Pats got him that would be some coup
Schumi
26/01/2004, 12:37 PM
Cameroon looked good in the highlights last night and really should have won. They looked the best of the teams I've seen so far.
pineapple stu
26/01/2004, 12:39 PM
Haven't seen any of the action so far - is it any better than 2002? That was a pretty dire competition to say the least... I think the top scorer got three!
Does anyone else think that the standard of African football has really stagnated over the last few years? Remember the Nigerians in USA 94, they were fantastic, a real breakthrough for the continent at the time and unlucky not to do some serious damage in the knock-out stages - but they've really disappeared since. They're a shadow of what they were back then at the moment.
Cameroon are probably the best that Africa has had to offer in recent years, but they're really not a world class side (failed to get out of our group in Japan/Korea, and looked quite ordinary in all three of their games) and make more news for their stupid kits than for their football. Senegal did fairly well, but I think that was more a fluke than anything (beating France anyone?), and I remain to be convince thst they're genuinely a top side.
Another thing that points to a lack of progress - El Hadji Diouf was African player of the year two years in a row recently. Sure he's a decent player (not that he shows it much at Liverpool), but if he's honestly the best player the entire continent has to offer for two consecutive years then I think they have some problems. There's only a handful of really top-class African players playing in Europe right now, despite the intensive scouting networks that many of the top clubs have there.
After the Nigerians in 94 people were convinced we'd see a real African powerhouse, capable of winning the World Cup within a matter of a few years, but it just hasn't happened and won't happen for a very long time by the looks of it.
Beavis
26/01/2004, 3:21 PM
Yeah fair point,most of the players are languishing in the lower divisions of France and other leagues.
I watched Diouf in 2002 on Eurosport and thought he was a great player but his preformances in England have shown he must have been just against bad opposition.Mali beat Kenya today,it was great to watch because every time a team attacked you thought they could score cos the marking and general defending is terrible.But who cares it's much more interesting than if the far superior teams like Germany and Denmark met.:ball:
The matchs so far have been very very entertaining.
As for Senegal they met 4 european teams at the world cup
they beat France (who were the reigning world champions) and drew with the danes.
in the second round they beat sweden.
in the qf's they only lost to turkey in extra time.
Cameroon are the reigning olympic champions i think.
african teams are improving constantly.
Latvia qualified for the European championships.
whos better Latvia or Kenya? well judging by what i saw today ild go for kenya
Snegal looked less than impressive against Burkino Faso (prob spelt wrong) last night. Diouf had a good first half but in all they didn't look very capable of breaking down a determined defence. Judging by that display I doubt they could be one of the favourites
adamcarr
27/01/2004, 9:21 PM
Originally posted by adamcarr
Cameroon will probably win it but nigeria and senegal have a good chance .
I Might want to take bck my prediction after themy 3 teams didnt win their first match and senegal:WHO DE FCUK ARE BURKINO FASO
Originally posted by adamcarr
WHO DE FCUK ARE BURKINO FASO
The country used to be known as Upper Volta. I think its the poorest country in the world:(
Originally posted by adamcarr
I Might want to take bck my prediction after themy 3 teams didnt win their first match and senegal:WHO DE FCUK ARE BURKINO FASO
I think its somewhere in Africa ;) & i think get gpot the semi finals when they hosted a few years ago?
Kanoute never impressed at West Ham but much better now at Spurs. He looked impressive for Mali. Senegal looked poor. Didn't see Nigeria yet. Cameroon probably favourites cos of track record.
Anyone got the latest betting? must be some value bets around...
pineapple stu
28/01/2004, 4:48 PM
Originally posted by pete
I think its somewhere in Africa ;) & i think get gpot the semi finals when they hosted a few years ago?
Think that's right - were they the team who were 4-1 up with two minutes to go and ended up losing on penalties?
Incidentally, I think it's spelt Bourkino Faso.
Originally posted by pineapple stu
Incidentally, I think it's spelt Bourkino Faso.
Doesn't really matter how its spelt when no one knows where it is ;)
Shed End John
29/01/2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Eric
Who do ye reckon is gonna win it this year??
Saw Morocco beat Nigeria and they could really play a bit. Definitely the best team I've seen so far.
Pineapple stu, you're right and you're wrong. Yes they were the team that drew 4-4 with Congo having been 4-1 up with 5 mins left.
No, it's not Bourkina Faso, definitely Burkina.
Originally posted by pete
Doesn't really matter how its spelt when no one knows where it is ;)
Ahh the old table quiz gem;
Name the capital city of Bourkino Faso? ( No serach engines)
pineapple stu
29/01/2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by SÓCcfc
Name the capital city of Bourkino Faso? ( No serach engines)
Brazzaville?
That's in one of those small random African countries anyway!
eoinh
29/01/2004, 12:52 PM
Ouagadougou
:p
eoinh
29/01/2004, 12:54 PM
Another quiz question
Whats the nickname of Benins football team?
(Hint its an animal that you can find in Ireland)
Rats?
btw seen Tunisia yesterday & easy to know they have fomer french coach Lemerre with similar style of play - like poor version of WC winning french side.
Anyone else think standard of keepers is really poor?
All the smaller teams seem to rely on the same tactic - some desparate lucky defending & then hoof the ball up to small pacey forward.
A face
29/01/2004, 4:52 PM
Fifa must protect 'world' game
Opinion; FIFA must come down hard on clubs trying to block their players from competing in the African Nations Cup.
The attitude towards the continents' most prestigious international tournament from European based managers, particularly those plying their trade in the Premiership, has been disgraceful.
The past weeks' headlines have been dominated by the club versus country row with a number of managers cross channel doing their utmost to prevent their African contingent from representing their country.
Read more at www.a2zsoccer.com (http://www.a2zsoccer.com/news/content_features.cfm?file=1261092)
On the keeper's subject, the star has to be Congo's keeper who seem's to be spending most of the time playing right back.
brendy_éire
29/01/2004, 8:38 PM
Anyone see Hocine's 86th minute goal for Algeria against Egypt today? Pure cracker, went all the way from half way in side his own half. Goal of the tournament, I'm sure.
Does anyone else think the standard of the pitches is pretty poor? You'd never get away from those kind of playing areas in a European Championship. They're shockingly bad at times.
Yeah Algerian fella looked kinda happy about his winner alright ;)
Funniest moment was when the european ref specially brought in for the match booked Egyptian guy for diving in the box 10 mins from tiem when was cast iron peno. Pitch a bit bumpy for the winning goal too. Some world class diving in tournament so far. Fair play to BBC for covering on BBC2 & 3.
adamcarr
30/01/2004, 9:20 PM
Originally posted by eoinh
Another quiz question
Whats the nickname of Benins football team?
(Hint its an animal that you can find in Ireland)
Cows?:D
Originally posted by adamcarr
Cows?:D
Err no:p
Originally posted by eoinh
Another quiz question
Whats the nickname of Benins football team?
(Hint its an animal that you can find in Ireland)
Its squirrels isn't it? Think I heard some BBC commentator mention it at some stage.
Originally posted by MikeW
Its squirrels isn't it?
Yep correct. Benin are known as The Squirrels
African Nations Cup 2004 Outright!
Cameroon 11 - 4
Nigeria 9 - 2
Tunisia 9 - 2
Senegal 11 - 2
Mali 6 - 1
Morocco 7 - 1
Guinea 16 - 1
Algeria 18 - 1
South Africa 50 - 1
Shed End John
03/02/2004, 4:40 PM
Originally posted by pete
African Nations Cup 2004 Outright!
Cameroon 11 - 4
Nigeria 9 - 2
Tunisia 9 - 2
Senegal 11 - 2
Mali 6 - 1
Morocco 7 - 1
Guinea 16 - 1
Algeria 18 - 1
South Africa 50 - 1
Though I've previously tipped Morocco, Algeria aren't half bad - especially at THOSE odds. If they don't win it, they'll f**k it up for someone who thinks they will.
6/1 on Mali is good value with 1 foot in the semi final already.
Cameroon deserve to be favourites though.
Shed End John
04/02/2004, 6:16 PM
Originally posted by pete
Cameroon deserve to be favourites though.
Maybe, but, Nigeria are sure to have a BIG say in that.
DolansWaistcoat
04/02/2004, 7:34 PM
Senegal will win it,they were the best team in the African Nations last time and Cameroon could only beat them on penalties in the final.
eoinh
06/02/2004, 12:46 PM
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