View Full Version : Keegan for town...
Longfordian
06/02/2004, 2:56 PM
If some kind mod could move my post from the General forum on this point, cos i dont want to repeat myself..Basically what macy and Xlex have said..
max power
06/02/2004, 2:57 PM
what the other three said, best league record of any town manager EVER, nuff said.
I never once questioned matthews ability to achieve results in my above post. You want to be a fool to do that after what he has brought o us. What i stated about murphy was fact and my source isnt on anything except what longford pay him every week.
Another fact is matthews is the test achieving manager we have ever had, why question that?
As I have learned from this site constructive criticsm leads to name calling instead of a debate I thought this was a fans forum site for discussing football not a girly site for b*tch at each other but maybe I was wrong.
900euro a week I would love to see that contract as it was never demanded,as no official contact was made by longford before or after the trial in england/scotland. As far as murphy was aware we were never in the hunt for him.
Fair enough Techs, suppose it might to much for us to look two ways at this. I heard Murphy was been courted by Matthews around the Galway game. I had it from a number of places that Matthews was talking to him and that his terms were excessive.
Now, you have to look at your post and say that you did question our most successful manager... because of that we jumped on you.
I've got of on the wrong foot with many, but one think I can't let go is that post and what I felt was an attck on Matthews. another is the Cup final thing on wheither Francis or Lavine start the cup final.
There's good reason for our focus on players from Dublin, it's working, I'd never bother questioning something which works.
Longfordian
08/02/2004, 6:56 PM
Techs, its not a personal attack but either your source or Alan matthews are not telling the truth. I heard Alan Matthews say himself that after he'd rang Alan Murphy his agent rang back and said his terms were 900 euros a week 52 weeks of the year..Alan Matthews was not interested at that price and told the agent he wasn't proven enough to demand that type of cash..Interest in Murphy cooled at that stage from all clubs and his agent came back with lower terms..His father even rang Alan Matthews to see if he was still interested.Terms had more or less been agreed in principle when Murphy got trials in England, before he left he said to Alan that he'd be happy to sign if nothing came of his trials and it was left at that..On his return he felt he now deserved higher wages again and the deal was off again..He then started talking to Derry nad the last contact that was had with Alan Mathews was when terms had been agreed with Derry..Alan asked the agent what the deal was and decided there was no way he could match it..Either Alan Matthews is a liar or your source is wrong..To say we weren't in for him is ridiculous, even the Derry people could tell you we were talking to him..
techs
09/02/2004, 10:02 PM
Heard it from the horses mouth (Murphy himself), that he never once spoke to Alan Matthews..He was told that Alan was going to ring him and he's still waiting..He never got anyone to thrash out a deal with what he said himself was 'ridiculous money'..I believe Murphy on that..He never once agreed to come to us because he never spoke to anyone from the club before or after his trials with Burnley and Aberdeen...Feel sorry for the guy when false rumours about his excessive wage demands are going around...
Originally posted by techs
Feel sorry for the guy when false rumours about his excessive wage demands are going around...
How the fúck are they false when that's what he told us, Pats and Derry (those are the only one's confirmed). You'll also have noticed that no one from Derry has denied that figure that was quoted by Longfordian. FFS even Derry have said we were talking to him....
Breifne
10/02/2004, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Macy
How the fúck are they false when that's what he told us, Pats and Derry (those are the only one's confirmed). You'll also have noticed that no one from Derry has denied that figure that was quoted by Longfordian. FFS even Derry have said we were talking to him....
Dublin City approached him, he was looking for €900 a week. don't know about the 52 weeks a year, but he was definitely looking for that amount. So don't know why you'd feel sorry for him, his getting a bit above his station.
that's three club whom state €900 per week...
max power
10/02/2004, 12:51 PM
no thats 3 people not three offical club statements, rumour.....
Originally posted by max power
no thats 3 people not three offical club statements, rumour.....
true, that's three rumours from three different clubs supporters...
Originally posted by max power
no thats 3 people not three offical club statements, rumour.....
As opposed to hearing from the player, through a mate's mate... :rolleyes:
max power
10/02/2004, 12:55 PM
Macy, still third hand info as you will agree...offical statements are the only "truth"... it would be very unprofessional for any club to comment on private talks with a player whom they did not sign....
at the end of the day he has only been a division pne player and for any club to fork out that sort of money for a player that is unproven at the higher level so madness to me.
Still, hard to believe that the same figure was plucked from the air by 4 clubs.
Too much anyway, even at the reduced rate, and Keegan as player/coach (which I hope he is), then Matthews made the correct move.
Believe it or not, I'm not that interested in what the players earn... However, I won't let someone spinning on a players behalf bullsh!t about the club/ Matthews when it's common knowledge that we were talking to him or his representative. There's plenty of other things to justifiably attack the club on - like the lack of news on the accounts, where we are at licence wise, this rumoured increase in ticket prices, the website etc etc...
techs
10/02/2004, 10:32 PM
Going to leave Alan Murphy now but what I was told by him was that he wanted to come to Longford,was told that Alan Matthews was going to ring him but he's still waiting for the call..To quote Matthews "why go after Alan Murphy when I've got Dessie Baker."
On the subject of Keegan,he's not coming as coach this season, Alan has got a coach (a familar face to the club) but not going public yet (his words not mine)....
Martinho II
10/02/2004, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by techs
On the subject of Keegan,he's not coming as coach this season, Alan has got a coach (a familar face to the club) but not going public yet (his words not mine).... [/B]
I have heard who it is! Lets play a game and guess the initials of the first three parts of this mans name which was mentioned to me in good faith at the weekend!
And the words are.....
D.O.N.
Anyone who gets this I will buy them a buckfast for breakfast!:D
Don Juan Demarco, the week that's in it an all?
Does DON have his badges and it's a shame we can't leave the Kenny era behind us... Keegan's signing is all the more weird...
Martinho II
11/02/2004, 9:49 PM
I am not sure that he is fully qualified. I will find out tommorrow.
Longfordian
12/02/2004, 1:12 PM
Keegan is goin to be doin some coaching as well as far as i've heard..He has some coaching badges and wants to do more..Derek O' Neill is a highly qualified coach, he's attached to us for this season as he needs to be coaching at a senior club to get his UEFA Pro Licence..Highly regarded by those that had him before i believe..
Edit those last 2 sentences out, Longfordian, just to avoid trouble...
atfconline
12/02/2004, 2:08 PM
RDO's aren't allowed be attached to any one club. They are supposed to work for the good of the whole region.
Longfordian
12/02/2004, 2:10 PM
Maybe i got it wrong then...
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