Glen Johnson.

[NeilMcD]

I really do not get all the hype at the moment about this guy. There was hype when he first came along at West Ham and Chelsea spent way too much money on him. He was then found out and now the hype has come again. He is a decent player but Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City all after him. If Man City sign him and sell Richard Dunne, it says it all about the regime andn it will be destined to fail in my view.

[Ciprian Marica]

Liverpool supposedly tabled a £17m bid for him according to some paper I read this morning. Supposedly, this is in and around his current valuation. Has the world gone mad?
He is not much better than Arbeloa and anyways I can't see Benitez blowing his budget on a player who is hardly going to make a difference in their title bid.
Either way he's not worth that kind of money for whoever buys him.

[OwlsFan]

Totally overrated player who couldn't keep his place at Chelsea. Gives the ball away constantly. Don't rate him at all.

[gustavo]

Supposedly, this is in and around his current valuation. Has the world gone mad?
A player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him.

It is possible for a player to get better over time . Probably went to Chelsea too young .

Seems to be maturing well now though

[shakermaker1982]

He's English and has some caps for England = multiply his true value by 4.

I'd be very surprised if Benitez wasted a good proportion of his transfer budget on a dodgy right back. I imagine they'll try and off load a few Liverpool players in return.

[gspain]

I'd be very surprised if Benitez wasted a good proportion of his transfer budget on a dodgy right back. I imagine they'll try and off load a few Liverpool players in return.

Were you surprised when he did this in previous years? :confused:

GJ looked good going forward and suspect defensively with Chelsea. He appears to have improved but the fee seems way over the top imo.

[shakermaker1982]

Were you surprised when he did this in previous years? :confused:

GJ looked good going forward and suspect defensively with Chelsea. He appears to have improved but the fee seems way over the top imo.

well according to some media reports and rat face supporters he didn't want Keane. It was forced upon him. Now he has TOTAL control over his summer signings hence my surprise if he went down that route. I'm sure he'd rather waste the cash on a Spanish player.

[John83]

Were you surprised when he did this in previous years? :confused:

GJ looked good going forward and suspect defensively with Chelsea. He appears to have improved but the fee seems way over the top imo.
This. All of this.

[DeLorean]

Liverpool supposedly tabled a £17m bid for him according to some paper I read this morning

Seems about right- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8102625.stm

[Metrostars]

£17m for Glen Johnson makes Ronaldo look a bargain :p

[DeLorean]

I don't know. I think he's a decent player who will more than likely improve further. He's only 24 and in the general run of things £17m might not prove to be totally outrageous. It is a surprisingly large amount for a right back but that's not to say it won't prove a good investment. Benitez seems to be signing full back after full back these days anyway so if it puts a stop to that it could be money well spent. Arbeloa is a very poor player anyway in my opinion, both defensively and going forward.

[Docboy]

Full backs seem to have replaced wingers somewhat in the modern game in the sense that they see more of the ball than any other position and get themselves into good positions to cross into the box. Johnson is good going forward, very comfortable in possession, although, that said, it should be noted that transfer fees are automatically going to be massively inflated thanks to the merry-go-round effect of Real's purchasing policy. Also, Benitez will surely help him tighten up his defensive responsibilities.

[MikeBassett]

£17m for Glen Johnson is crazy and it's not like he's going to make a huge difference in their title bid. At best he's worth about £7m.

The price tags and money being paid for players is nothing short of crazy these days! It's not good. Like, a £76m price tag on Ibrahimovic?! That is just insanity.

[razor]

£17m for Glen Johnson is crazy Totally agree especially as there was talk of him going to Liverpool last Christmas for £8M, how did he double in value all of a sudden?
Could be down to the money Pompey still owe Liverpool for Crouch.

[Den Perry]

Totally agree especially as there was talk of him going to Liverpool last Christmas for £8M, how did he double in value all of a sudden?
Could be down to the money Pompey still owe Liverpool for Crouch.

I think this put's it into perspective. Who was the better right back last season, Johnson or John O'Shea? IMO O'Shea. would anybody bid 17M for him ? probably not.I know O'shea is four years older but still only 28, and in fairness, its not like the likes of Chelsea / Liverpool are buying for the future Just shows that the valuation of Johnson is nuts

[gustavo]

The price tags and money being paid for players is nothing short of crazy these days! It's not good. Like, a £76m price tag on Ibrahimovic?! That is just insanity.

Maybe cos Inter don't want to sell their prize asset? :confused:

[passinginterest]

Totally agree especially as there was talk of him going to Liverpool last Christmas for £8M, how did he double in value all of a sudden?
Could be down to the money Pompey still owe Liverpool for Crouch.

I agree that' he's a £7-8 million player at best but he signed a new four year contract in January so that would be where the majority of the increase comes from I'd imagine.

[balanced view]

Portsmouth owe £7 million still from the Crouch transfer so think that has something to do with the high figure.

[reder]

Portsmouth owe £7 million still from the Crouch transfer so think that has something to do with the high figure.

Chelsea have also agreed to pay the £17m or so price tag. They sold him for less than 25% of that amount to Pompey.

I dont know where he will end up but one things for sure, football has gone mad!

[KK77]

[QUOTE=Den Perry;1179202]I think this put's it into perspective. Who was the better right back last season, Johnson or John O'Shea? IMO O'Shea.

In all fairness a big difference in the quality of player O'Shea was playing with last season to Johnson so imo Johnson had the better season.

[old git]

[QUOTE=Den Perry;1179202]I think this put's it into perspective. Who was the better right back last season, Johnson or John O'Shea? IMO O'Shea.

In all fairness a big difference in the quality of player O'Shea was playing with last season to Johnson so imo Johnson had the better season.

3-4 trophies would suggest o'shea had the better season :p

[KK77]

[QUOTE=Rafa B;1181807]

3-4 trophies would suggest o'shea had the better season :p

Not talking about trophies:p:rolleyes:

[jbyrne]

In all fairness a big difference in the quality of player O'Shea was playing with last season to Johnson so imo Johnson had the better season.

what nonsense. someday JOS will get the credit he deserves. his performances where on a far bigger stage (WCQ and champions lge) than johnsons

[reder]

Liverpool have agreed a transfer for in or around £17.5m, so I presume its a done deal, subject to a medical.

[KK77]

what nonsense. someday JOS will get the credit he deserves. his performances where on a far bigger stage (WCQ and champions lge) than johnsons

Where did i say JOS didn't have a good season. Do you read posts????

[old git]

Where did i say JOS didn't have a good season. Do you read posts????

you did say it was down to the quality of players around him :D:confused:
in fairness he was involved all over backline most of season when utd had problems with injuries to neville / evans / ferdinand etc and he never let them down once totally underated player by a lot of people

[Tipp Top]

£17m for Glen Johnson makes Ronaldo look a bargain :p

Prices of players this summer have gone mad Real Madrid have made a joke of the hole transfer market Wher is it going to stop

[gustavo]

Prices of players this summer have gone mad Real Madrid have made a joke of the hole transfer market Wher is it going to stop

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[OwlsFan]

I came across this quote from a Liverpool director who resigned in 2006 and Glen Johnson immediately sprung to mind:

White was anonymously quoted as saying: "We have paid too many inflated prices and inflated wages for players who are not doing the job.

"And when the manager decides they are not doing the job, we cannot get rid of them because nobody wants them for the sort of money we want back.

"It means we're losing money we can't afford to lose. We have too many players of poor quality and from the way the manager keeps on changing the side it looks as if he doesn't know what his best team is."

http://chinadaily.cn/sports/2006-11/01/content_721653.htm


What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.

[gustavo]

I came across this quote from a Liverpool director who resigned in 2006 and Glen Johnson immediately sprung to mind:

White was anonymously quoted as saying: "We have paid too many inflated prices and inflated wages for players who are not doing the job.

"And when the manager decides they are not doing the job, we cannot get rid of them because nobody wants them for the sort of money we want back.

"It means we're losing money we can't afford to lose. We have too many players of poor quality and from the way the manager keeps on changing the side it looks as if he doesn't know what his best team is."

http://chinadaily.cn/sports/2006-11/01/content_721653.htm


What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.
Mightn't have made it at Chelsea first time round , but they wanted him back . It was a large amount alright but offset by the fact that they were owed money for Crouch still and they just cancelled that

[DmanDmythDledge]

What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a player who couldn't make it at Chelsea. I may be wrong but I really don't think he'll do the business at Liverpool either.
Didn't make it at Chelsea? So if there is a player(s) better than you that means you don't make it? More drama queen stuff from you. A As for your second point he's been one of the best right backs in the Premier League over the past two seasons so he doesn't have anything to prove in that regard.

[DeLorean]

Didn't make it at Chelsea? So if there is a player(s) better than you that means you don't make it?

I don't think was any great shame in Johnson not making it at Chelsea but he obviously didn't make it. If there are other players keeping you out of the team then of course you're not going to make it. I think it was Ferreira at the time Johnson was there and even Geremi used be thrown back there before he would be considered. He was pretty young at the time and obviously Mourinho just didn't rate him. I suppose Mourinho's the type that's more interested in his defenders being able to defend than to be great going forward, although I would have thought the same about Benitez.


As for your second point he's been one of the best right backs in the Premier League over the past two seasons so he doesn't have anything to prove in that regard.

Yeah I think he's been a fine player at Portsmouth and will be more than capable of producing at Liverpool. It wouldn't be too difficult to fill Arbeloa's boots anyway.


It was a large amount alright but offset by the fact that they were owed money for Crouch still and they just cancelled that

I don't understand why people keep bringing up the Crouch aspect though. Liverpool are surely still down the same amount of money no matter what way it's twisted. So instead of actually paying Portsmouth £17m for Johnson they are only paying about £5m, but now they're not getting the £12m they're owed for Crouch- same thing. Am I actually missing something though cos people keep mentioning the Crouch aspect of the whole thing as if Pool were somehow saved money? (p.s. figures are only approximate guesses as I didn't bother looking up Crouch transfer fee and don't know how much Pompey had paid already, etc)

[reder]

I don't understand why people keep bringing up the Crouch aspect though. Liverpool are surely still down the same amount of money no matter what way it's twisted. So instead of actually paying Portsmouth £17m for Johnson they are only paying about £5m, but now they're not getting the £12m they're owed for Crouch- same thing. Am I actually missing something though cos people keep mentioning the Crouch aspect of the whole thing as if Pool were somehow saved money?

No, you are correct. This type of mathematical wizardry always comes to the fore when Benitez transfers a player nowadays.