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DolansWaistcoat
16/12/2003, 4:11 PM
1 Day to go now.I can't wait to see it though i'll probably have to wait till next week becacause I never booked a ticket,Doh.:mad:
I hope the third 1 lives up to the hype though even if most ppl now what happens in the end anyway.:cool:
buy my spare ticket for tomorrow!!
its for The Gate December 17th at 2.30pm
€4.50
:)
dahamsta
16/12/2003, 4:40 PM
No.
shedite
16/12/2003, 4:45 PM
Yes!
Peter Jackson is making The Hobbit after King Kong.
The Hobbit is due for release in 2006.
On the same theme, "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe" is out next year.
Can't wait for them.
(i'll give King Kong a skip though).
:)
adam
what is the best film of all time IYO?
Originally posted by DolansWaistcoat
1 Day to go now.I can't wait to see it though i'll probably have to wait till next week becacause I never booked a ticket,Doh.:mad:
Part timer.....
LOTR trology possibly best action movies of all time.
dahamsta
16/12/2003, 7:25 PM
Originally posted by Ref
what is the best film of all time IYO? I'm afraid I never went for the whole favourite band / favourite song / favourite movie thing. I have lots of favourite bands / songs / movies.
adam
tiktok
16/12/2003, 8:20 PM
Probably the best movie Trilogy , although the third film has often let a series down...
Godfather III (should never have been made)
Matrix Rehashed was terrible
Star Wars (Ewoks thrown in for merchandising broke my very young heart)
Alien III was awful
ROTK has already had nothing but glowing reviews, it'll be good.
But to call it the best film ever made is stretching it a bit.
Lads cop on, forget all that magical fairies and evil goblins childish nonsense, Commando with Arnold Schwarzennegger is the finest film of all time by a mile. Look up the quotes on imdb, every single one is hilarious - "You're gonna cooperate with us...right?"....."Wrong!" then he shoots the guy in the head!, "What did you do with Sully?"......."I let him go" after dropping poor sleazy Sully off a cliff, and lots, lots more. Most of Arnies finest one liners come from Commando
It's even got a camp Australian Freddie Mercury impersonator wearing a string vest as the villain (Vernon Wells in a career defining role). What more do you want? The numerous continuity errors throughout even add to the whole enjoyability of the thing. There's nothing that isn't hilariously fantastic about this piece of over the top 80s genius.
A face
16/12/2003, 9:07 PM
Originally posted by Conor74
I'm sure no film captures everything about leprechauns and pixies
Darby O'Gill ..... Damn you man, you can forget Darby. He'd turn in his grave at those very words.
UCD_4_Life
16/12/2003, 10:21 PM
Ha! Yeah, right.
They ruined LOTR. Ruined it.
DolansWaistcoat
17/12/2003, 8:18 AM
Best film series ever!
1.Rocky
2.Godfather
3.LOTRs(?)
:cool:
NigeSausagepump
17/12/2003, 8:55 AM
Originally posted by MikeW
Lads cop on, forget all that magical fairies and evil goblins childish nonsense, Commando with Arnold Schwarzennegger is the finest film of all time by a mile. .
While Commando is most certainly a contender for the title of "Greatest Film of All Time", in my humble opinion the holder of that crown is another of Arnie's finest, Predator.
It too is full to the brim with excruciatingly bad quotes, witness "what's this f***ing tie business?" addressed to a necktie-sporting CIA agent, "Stick Around", aimed at an unfortunate guerilla who has just been attached to a door by Arnie's flying dagger and the era defining and oft quoted "If it bleeds, we can kill it". Never has a single movie provided so many quotes usable in so many of life's everyday situations. Add in the wonderful chopper sequence backed by "Long Tall Sally" and the carnage-tastic sacking of the guerilla village during which Arnie's crack posse remain totally unscathed despite facing 40 hardened nutters armed to the teeth. What a potent mix.
Which only leaves one question. Why, oh, why did they have to make Predator 2?
DolansWaistcoat
17/12/2003, 9:26 AM
Predator 2 wasn't that bad.
Now terminater 3 that should never have been made,pure sh!te.:mad:
DolansWaistcoat
17/12/2003, 11:35 AM
Apocalpyse now was a bit weird and unwatchable.
The whole Alien series was good imo,though the first two are def better than the last two.
Casino is a classic gangster flick aswell.
in case any one was wondering, that nice woman in The Gate bought my spare ticket back off of me.
film was superb.
i thoroughly enjoyed it.
the audience with me applauded loads of times.
i will never understand that.
why clap in the cinema?
it's not as if Elijah Wood or Ian McKellan or whoever can actually hear you!
anyway, great film, 3 hours 10 mins long (not 21).
go see it!
:)
DolansWaistcoat
18/12/2003, 7:23 AM
That clapping in the cinema crap is a real american thing,they do it all the time over there,even if the film is sh!te.:rolleyes:
Haven't seen the third 'ring' film yet so don't reveal any plot lines here,pleeeease.:cool:
dahamsta
18/12/2003, 8:59 AM
Originally posted by Ref
the audience with me applauded loads of times.
i will never understand that.
why clap in the cinema?Because most LOTR fans are sycophantic loser arseh*les.
Originally posted by Vetinari
Because most LOTR fans are sycophantic loser arseh*les.
:D
tetsujin1979
18/12/2003, 10:06 AM
Saw it last night, first 15-20 minutes are a little slow, the rest of the film will blow you away. First time (I can think of) that the audience applauded at the end, at a normal showing.
Just as a note to anyone thinking of bringing young (under 10) kids to this. Don't. A guy sitting in front of me had 2 young girls, and left after about an hour, and this was before Shelob was in the film.
Beavis
18/12/2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by NigeSausagepump
Why, oh, why did they have to make Predator 2?
Completely agree,the first was great stuff.The final battle between arnie and the predator is unrivaled in any film.Predator in the city was pants.
'There's something out there,and it ain't no man':cool:
Terminator 2 is one of the few films where the second is better than the first.I liked the first but the second is a forever classic.It is a tribute to the film that you can feel sad when a machine is self destructing(I actually felt like crying when I saw it first!!Luckily I manage to hold back the tears in the presence of my adolecent peers,until I had safely departed the cinema;) ).Haven't seen the third one cos I fear it will ruin the entire seris.Even from the trailers it looks as though it could be difficult viewing.
DolansWaistcoat
18/12/2003, 11:49 AM
Don't watch part 3 of terminater,whatever you do.:(
Originally posted by DolansWaistcoat
Don't watch part 3 of terminater,whatever you do.:(
:eek:
i liked it!
DolansWaistcoat
18/12/2003, 3:30 PM
The first 2 terminator films are 100 times better than the third.If ya never saw the first 2 then watch part 3 then the standard set by the first ones isn't in your head and the expectation isn't so high.
Ruairi
18/12/2003, 4:54 PM
I wouldn't say they were 100 times better than part 3. Part one was sh!T, (sorry It was) part two was class but the third one was pretty good. I know it was almost a varbon ccopy of T2, but still, good entertainment
liamon
18/12/2003, 5:00 PM
Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
Ha! Yeah, right.
They ruined LOTR. Ruined it.
Just to bring things back in line with the initial topic...
the extended version DVD of the Two Towers is far better than the cinematic version. The extra bits of footage (~42 mins) really help to recapture some of the essence of the book.
DolansWaistcoat
19/12/2003, 7:23 AM
Ya most sequels are crap.The second and third matrix films are terrible when compared with the first which is a classic.
NigeSausagepump
19/12/2003, 11:46 AM
I can't believe in a discussion about multiple part films the Police Academy series has been left out. Especially towards the end of the set they rise to the level of "so bad they're actually good". Citizens on Patrol and Mission to Moscow are just so appallingly cheeseball that they've become classics in my (admittedly uncultured) opinion.
Originally posted by liamon
The extra bits of footage (~42 mins) really help to recapture some of the essence of the book.
IMO thats the problem - too mant people are obcessed with having a movie that matches the book.
I don't care about the book - a movie has to stand on its own!
Terminator 3 was fairly bad. 1 & 2 good for different reasons.
IMO Once Apon a Time In America is possibly better than Godfather 2. Once Apon a Time in the West best (spaghetti) Western too.
:)
liamon
19/12/2003, 12:23 PM
If you don't want the movie to match the book, then why bother trying to turn a book into a movie?
Having said that, it's not really possible to capture the essence of many books in a couple of hours in a cinema. But I think the film makers gave it a good shot in the case of the LOTR. Lots of detail went into each shot and it shows.
I thought the two towers was a decent action film, worth a watch. The DVD turns it into a far superior piece of work.
Originally posted by liamon
If you don't want the movie to match the book, then why bother trying to turn a book into a movie?
I didn't turn a book into a movie, a Mr. Jackson did. A book is just the precursor to a screen play. Thats why they have adapted & original screenplays. Probably half the major movies started off as books...
tiktok
19/12/2003, 2:07 PM
Originally posted by pete
A book is just the precursor to a screen play.
Bullocks with an 'O' pete.
The vast majority of authors don't write with a view to Hollywood, (although they rarely so No to the cash afterwards).
Most Film Adaptations are of successful books, studios buy into the fact that if one million people bought the book, then ten million people will watch a movie based on that story.
A book is a collection of words that convey a story.
a film is a collection of images and words that convey a story.
What makes a successful adaptation is capturing 'the essence of the story', the reason people bothered to buy the book in the first place.
'Bonfire of the Vanities' and 'Captain Corellis mandolin' were brilliant books and crap films because they lost the sense of what made the book great.
the first two books of the 'LOTR' are essentially character driven works, the third is an action story. that's why the extras on the Two Towers DVD probably added to the essence of the film, because greater emphasis was placed on character development.
John83
19/12/2003, 2:36 PM
Originally posted by pete
Terminator 3 was fairly bad. 1 & 2 good for different reasons.
I (re)watched T1 and T2 a couple of nights before I saw T3.
T1 sucked compaired to what I remembered. The effects are truely woeful, and while it's a good film, I feel that it really doesn't deserve the reputation it has.
T2 on the other hand, is a classic, despite the almost painful influence of the John Conner charactor. It barely dates at all, even thirteen years on.
T3 is an enjoyable action film, with some decent one-liners, and fine special effects. Anyone who thinks it's **** should be foreced to watch T1 and T3 one after another for a week straight.
Originally posted by tiktok
Bullocks with an 'O' pete.
The vast majority of authors don't write with a view to Hollywood, (although they rarely so No to the cash afterwards)..
Me typeth too quick. Meant to say that when a book made into a movie the book is really just a precursor to a screen play then i.e. its really the screen play thats being made into a movie then...
DolansWaistcoat
20/12/2003, 2:51 PM
Most films never live up to the books because the directer can't get across the auther's vision of the atmosphere of the book.Peter Jackson though has made a great effort to get Tolkien's vision of the lotr onto the big screen.
T1 is way better than T3 imo.Ok the effects are a bit sh!te in the first alright but it was 20 odd years ago and they prob had a fraction of the mega bucks that went into T3.
I'm goin to see the final lotr today or tomorrow,i've heard nothing but great things about it.:cool:
tiktok
22/12/2003, 8:42 AM
Originally posted by pete
Me typeth too quick. Meant to say that when a book made into a movie the book is really just a precursor to a screen play then i.e. its really the screen play thats being made into a movie then...
yeah, that is true...
there have been loads of authors who hand over the novel and then disassociate themselves from the resulting screenplay. I think why LOTR works though is that jackson at least knew the book well, the problems arise when studies approach a trusted screenwriter with a novel he/she doesn't know...
which brings me to another nomination for film of the year
'Adaptation', only brilliant.
DolansWaistcoat
22/12/2003, 11:54 AM
Finally saw lotr last night,great show.The lads with me fell asleep,not cause the film was sh!te though,probably all the pints before hand.:D
A face
23/12/2003, 9:25 AM
Going to see it tonight ..... cant wait.
Has anyone seen "Le Haine" .... brilliant film !!
tiktok
23/12/2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by A face
Has anyone seen "Le Haine" .... brilliant film !!
it's class, not too many films have a special government screening to see what all the fuss is about. vincent cassel is absolutely brilliant in it, one of the better actors knocking around today.
A face
23/12/2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by tiktok
vincent cassel is absolutely brilliant in it, one of the better actors knocking around today.
yeah .... he is alot more aswell. All spiraled from a film festival flick.
"special government screening" .... some guy resigned after it aswell wasnt there ??
Dodge
23/12/2003, 11:48 AM
Best fantasy films yeah. Although in no way would I be a fan of that genre
Best Films (in no particular order) Dog Day Afternoon, La Haine, Groundhog Day, Out of Sight, Resevoir Dogs, Goodfellas, The Godfather(I and II), City of God, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Bonnie & Clyde, Raging BUll and Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Best this year Kill Bill, Donnie Darko and City of God
Oh and Terminator 1 was very good, terminator 2 was ****e and temrinator 3 was decent fun
A face
23/12/2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Dodge
Best Films (in no particular order) Dog Day Afternoon, La Haine, Groundhog Day, Out of Sight, Resevoir Dogs, Goodfellas, The Godfather(I and II), City of God, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Bonnie & Clyde, Raging BUll and Ferris Bueller's Day Off
The deerhunter !! ..... and maybe Devils Advocate
Dodge
23/12/2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by A face
The deerhunter !! ..... and maybe Devils Advocate
maybe and hell no! Good film but doubt it'd be in even pacino's top ten...
A face
23/12/2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Dodge
Good film but doubt it'd be in even pacino's top ten...
You're right ... i had seen it again recently, thats why i said it.
I swear ... i cant think ...... there are loads of other good quality films out there.
tiktok
23/12/2003, 1:28 PM
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
The Jerk
Airplane
Best in Show
The Princess Bride
Three colours Red
Jean de Florette/Manon de source
Rebecca
The Birds
The Italian Job
Alien
The Desk Set
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Wild Bunch
Twelve Angry men
I'll stop there, otherwise I'll be still here in an hour.
The Great Escape, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Pulp Fiction....
DolansWaistcoat
23/12/2003, 1:41 PM
Top 3(any films.)
1.Forrest Gump
2.Rocky(first 4 brilliant,5 OKish)
3.Braveheart.
Whoever said terminater 2 was Sh*t and part 3 was decent fun should have their head checked.:o
Ruairi
23/12/2003, 2:00 PM
one of the best films of recent years is Fight Club.
For sheer entertainment value alone you can't beat Indiana Jones.
And Star Wars rules.
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