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Jicked
13/04/2009, 10:38 PM
About 1,500 at Tallaght (off the top of my head) to see Rovers brush aside a really awful Kildare team. I simply feel bad for the players and their few travelling fans, can't be easy travelling across the country to play for or watch a team as uncompetitive as that, it must take real dedication. Rovers weren't very good, but still could have won 6-0 or so.
Rory H
13/04/2009, 10:53 PM
i'd say 1800....kildare are ridiculousy bad.
Red&White Rover
13/04/2009, 11:00 PM
They really must be atrocious.
What does a team like Kildare add to the league?
GlasnevinRed
13/04/2009, 11:04 PM
The problem with Kildare is they were preparing for the A-League so don't have much of a squad. I'm surprised Rovers only beat them 3-0. They're really shocking though. Franchise beat them 8-0 and we beat them 5-1 in a friendly out their way.
Dunny
13/04/2009, 11:11 PM
Il always love Kildare. but Cobh should be up, not them.
Kildare Lad
13/04/2009, 11:24 PM
Didnt go tonight, but yes, we are by far and away the worst team in the LoI. I can honestly see us finishing with just the 1 point this season.
This year I think there is 2 reasons why we are so bad - 1) We were preparing for the A Championship and 2) Going with locally based players only this year.
Now I'm all for giving locals and youngsters a chance to represent their county, but it just really isn't working. Especially in a county so close to Dublin, the best players will always go to Dublin to play, Noel Haverty of St.Pats (Irish U.19 captain?) is from down here for example, but just travels a short distance to Inchicore, and even they train in Celbridge if I've heard correctly so it is probably easier for him there then it would be with Kildare County. I just think at the moment this team is destined to fail. Makes me realise how much of a good job is being done down at Wexford if they can make the local approach work too.
Jicked
13/04/2009, 11:29 PM
The problem with Kildare is they were preparing for the A-League so don't have much of a squad. I'm surprised Rovers only beat them 3-0. They're really shocking though. Franchise beat them 8-0 and we beat them 5-1 in a friendly out their way.
Yeah it's hard to blame Kildare's players. They seemed to have two or three keepers on the bench, and some woefully out of condition guys. They're essentially a local LSL team suddenly thrust in to a much higher level and its simply unfair to expect them to compete.
It only finished 3-0 because Rovers played a lot of the game at a very slow pace, unlucky finishing (hit the post a few times, narrow misses often and a wrongfully disallowed goal), some poor finishing and trying to walk it in to the net, and a couple of nice saves from Kildare's keeper. Like I said, could have been 6-0 minimum, that was with a weakened Rovers side, and the impression was if they ever needed to step it up a gear they could have had more.
Tough on Kildare, will take a lot of mental strength to get through this season, they had one good player though, didn't catch his name but their number 6, a black guy, I'm sure someone will know who he is, got through a lot of work and was plainly a much better class of player then his teammates.
eamo1
13/04/2009, 11:34 PM
Kildare shouldnt be worried about just getting 1 point,what will their goal difference be at the end of the season?Kilkenny's gaelic football team finished their league campaign with a score difference of -196 pts from 7 games,shocking stuff.Could kildare get relatively(games played etc) close to that??:p
Galway Utd were very poor in the second half and in extra time tonight.could have been 4/5 up at h.t but was only 2 but very bad to take foot off the pedal the way they did.
Still we are through to face Derry.
Anyone have confirmed dates for next round?
Dodge
14/04/2009, 12:07 AM
Il always love Kildare. but Cobh should be up, not them.
Didn't you call for further sanctions for Cork in another thread?
Dunny
14/04/2009, 12:09 AM
Didn't you call for further sanctions for Cork in another thread?
:confused: What has my post got to do with Cork?
And no I don't believe I did...?
Definitely not much to be learned by Rovers in the game except to be more willing to shoot around the edge of the box. The penalty came from another attempt to walk the ball in when a shot might have sufficed.
Rovers could play the last 10 minutes with 10 men as Amond was injured and Baker spent the last 15 minutes signing autographs for almost everyone under 13 on the sideline. Pity Kildare's no 6..really felt sorry for him as he tried to be a single handed defence.
Philly
14/04/2009, 1:42 AM
Hey just on the KCFC topic. Was at the game tonight with a few other fans, great to visit Tallaght and I must say the set-up was the best I have seen in Irish soccer. The shop was really good too. Rovers are bound to be a a top LOI club again now with these facilities at their disposal.
About the game, yeah, we suck. I mean, we haven't scored in 450 minutes or something like that, and I genuinely fear we may end up on -100 goals come the end of the season. The reason we are struggling so much is that the club was geared towards the A League and, when we were offered a place in the First Division, the transfer window had already all but shut and we had a team signed up that was targetted towards the A League. The idea was good: blood local lads in the A League, build up a real foundation at the club and hopefully, within a couple of seasons, get promoted with a squad of mostly local players.
When we ended up in the First Division, with no chance to sign more experienced players or even loan them, we had no choice but to try our hand with what we have. The average age of the team is 21 or 22 I believe, with a 17 year old (Matty Byrne) being one of our key players. Our budget is something like €500 p/w - so at least we are living within our means! I understand the club is looking to bring in some more experienced heads when the transfer window opens later in the season, but by then who knows how far behind we will be in the table.
The fans will stick at it and continue to support the club and team, home and away. If anybody knows it's not all about winning, County fans do! Hopefully the team will improve as the season goes on too.
Oh and Number 6 for us tonight was Baba Isaaka from Ghana, a Tallaght native these days I believe. He once played with FC Jokerit, and had short stints at Pats and Dundalk. He was class tonight, and it seems we may have found a great role for him as a centre-midfielder. He was one of the few players from last season who returned despite the possibility of barely even making petrol money whilst playing in a poor team, so fair play to him.
I think we should be grateful to Kildare for their willingness to keep the league numbers up to strength in the circumstances rather than critical of them for being a poor side.
People can give out about them, but they're a lot less damaging to the image of the league than the likes of Cork and Drogheda have been.
pineapple stu
14/04/2009, 8:41 AM
they had one good player though, didn't catch his name but their number 6, a black guy, I'm sure someone will know who he is
Sounds like Baba Isaaka. Stood out when I was down at the 6-1 Dundalk win at the end of last season.
Edit - I see Philly beat me to it.
The FAI need to look at avoiding a Kildare County situation in future years. Dallying over licence awards, and an A Championship which is a world apart from the division above it mean there's a serious difference between being in either division (the extra three or four weeks at the start being one), and it isn't good enough to have a position where Kildare can be thrust last-minute into a league of 33 games, having planned (and actually planned, it seems, as per Philly's post) on being in a poorer league with just 14 games. If clubs are going to be willy nilly demoted into the A League or bumped out of, then the A League needs to be a serious division.
RonnieB
14/04/2009, 9:16 AM
Baba Isaaka, I was going to mention him but didnt know his name. He looks a very good young player. He was by far the best player in the Kildare team when we played them earlier in the season.
Baba Isaaka, I was going to mention him but didnt know his name. He looks a very good young player
He's not that young. He was with pats about 8 years ago (never played). Went to Dundalk for a while then
osarusan
14/04/2009, 10:27 AM
Baba Isaaka, I was going to mention him but didnt know his name. He looks a very good young player. He was by far the best player in the Kildare team when we played them earlier in the season.
Yeah, Kildare won 2-1 at Limerick at the end of last season, and he was outstanding in defence.
Philly
14/04/2009, 12:35 PM
Yeah, Kildare won 2-1 at Limerick at the end of last season, and he was outstanding in defence.
That was out last win (possibly ever the way things are going). We're playing you in Limerick again Friday - so beware!
Rory H
14/04/2009, 6:01 PM
Message from Sligoman, latest score from 6pm kick-off:
Kerry League 0-1 Cork City
Kiely '34
adamd164
14/04/2009, 6:04 PM
Live updates on that one here: http://corkcityfc.ie/views/matchday.php
Rory H
14/04/2009, 6:30 PM
Message on my Blackberry from Sligoman:
Kerry League 1-1 Cork City
Sugrue '70
Rory H
14/04/2009, 6:55 PM
Just checked Sligoman's Twitter
Match going into Extra-time.
Just checked Sligoman's Twitter
Match going into Extra-time.
did he travel down to the match or something?
Rory H
14/04/2009, 6:59 PM
Nah, at home.
RonnieB
14/04/2009, 7:03 PM
http://www.scorespro.com/
Rory H
14/04/2009, 7:09 PM
Got an e-mail for Sligoman seconds ago that it is actually
Kerry League 1-2 Cork City
The Lilywhites
14/04/2009, 7:10 PM
Cork are 2-1 up according to their updates.
RonnieB
14/04/2009, 7:12 PM
Apologies they had it down as Kerry, updated now.
Rory H
14/04/2009, 7:19 PM
Sligoman was on phone there
Kerry League 1-3 Cork City.
RonnieB
14/04/2009, 7:21 PM
Behan apparently.
Rovers1
14/04/2009, 7:25 PM
phone call from Sligoman,
UCD 1 up
RonnieB
14/04/2009, 7:29 PM
UCD now Two nil up.
Rory H
14/04/2009, 7:32 PM
FT in Cork game.
Rory H
14/04/2009, 9:09 PM
FC Carlow v Waterford United
Cork City v Wexford Youth
Galway v Derry City
Sligo Rovers v Finn Harps
Drogheda United v Sporting Fingal
Bohemians v Shelbourne
St. Patrick’s Athletic v Shamrock Rovers
Athlone Town v UCD
4/5 May
FC Carlow v Waterford United
Cork City v Wexford Youth
Galway v Derry City
Sligo Rovers v Finn Harps
Drogheda United v Bray Wanderers
Bohemians v Dundalk
St. Patrick’s Athletic v Shamrock Rovers
Athlone Town v UCD
4/5 May
You mean Shels...;)
Behan apparently.
Spot on. Kiely and Danny Murphy got the others. Hope there won't be a repeat of last seasons performance against Wexford in the next round.
holidaysong
14/04/2009, 9:39 PM
FC Carlow v Waterford United
Cork City v Wexford Youth
Galway v Derry City
Sligo Rovers v Finn Harps
Drogheda United v Bray Wanderers
Bohemians v Shelbourne
St. Patrick’s Athletic v Shamrock Rovers
Athlone Town v UCD
4/5 May
Drogheda knocked out Bray yesterday. I think Drogheda play Fingal now.
Rory H
14/04/2009, 10:30 PM
oh right....sorry. i'm no sligoman :(
Sam_Heggy
15/04/2009, 8:34 AM
3 league cup games and all away, this is fair.
3 league cup games and all away, this is fair.
We could do with an away game, might make some money on it!
Schumi
15/04/2009, 11:30 AM
We could do with an away game, might make some money on it!
You know you've drawn us, yeah?
Battery Rover
15/04/2009, 12:05 PM
You know you've drawn us, yeah?
We all know that down here but apparently the league dont
http://www.loi.ie/index.php/matchzone/other-competitions/ea-sports-cup/fixturesaresults
You know you've drawn us, yeah?
Yep, that draw was made when the other round was drawn.
I'm talking about in the next round :D
pineapple stu
15/04/2009, 12:52 PM
That's almost a year away, sure.
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