Tralee Dynamos FC

[gufc2000]

Any reasons as to why Dynamos didn't apply for the U-19 League, have they dropped their ambitions to become an LoI club?

[culloty82]

Just wouldn't be able to raise the money to see out a season, so the U-19 team just ended up a casualty of all that. The focus will be on the KDL for the next few years, partly to rebuild at junior level, but also until it becomes clear how many LoI teams will survive the current carnage.

[1dynamos]

correct details are Dynamos applied for division 1 licence when we were refused and the circumstances around the refusal were unacceptable to all in the club. if we could not provide the complete pathway for our players we did not want any part of it....fact

[nigel-harps1954]

correct details are Dynamos applied for division 1 licence when we were refused and the circumstances around the refusal were unacceptable to all in the club. if we could not provide the complete pathway for our players we did not want any part of it....fact


Fact you say eh? Where is this coming from, because, from what I hear, that's most certainly not the case.

[1dynamos]

not just fact but 100% truth.

[nigel-harps1954]

not just fact but 100% truth.

Then I'll just have to take your word for it so ;)

[culloty82]

John Delaney, speaking at a KDL awards night, stated that the major obstacle to a Kerry team making an application is the dual registration rule, but that the FAI were working to resolve that issue. If the licensing process is similar to last year, then any club would have to submit their application by the end of the month, so apart from GUST, doubt there will be many new applications for 2013.

[Mr A]

Fixing the dual registration issue would be a massive step forward for Irish football and would be an important first step in joining up the different levels of the game.

[culloty82]

With the FAI statement stating that "other entities" could apply to join, does that suggest the issue surrounding representative teams has been sorted, and if so, will the KDL and the Mayo District League consider applying?

[culloty82]

Dynamos have called a meeting for next week to debate the pros and cons of submitting a 2013 application - the crucial question being how much infrastructural and financial progress has occurred in the last seven months? Meanwhile, the club has also launched its first womens' team, which will play in the Desmond League alongside Listowel Celtic. Returning to the League format, it seems the FAI have asked all four clubs rejected in February to reapply, so as well as Tralee, Carlow, Cobh and GUST will have to do some soul-searching in the coming weeks (presumably Thursday's Galway Report will also be a factor).

[NeverFeltBetter]

As it stands, it cannot be financially viable for Tralee right?

[nigel-harps1954]

It's not financially viable for half the teams in the League already so I can't see why Tralee wouldn't give it a go at least.

There's no better time for them to join the league if you ask me. They'd be potentially joining with 3 or 4 more clubs.

[sheao]

They surely won't be rejected now as a 7 team first division is an absolute joke. The league needs a further geographical spread of teams and so a team from Tralee would be welcomed .

[culloty82]

As it stands, it cannot be financially viable for Tralee right?

As well as the finances, Tralee would of course be at the top of the Kerry soccer pyramid if accepted, so if they are serious about giving licensing a second shot, they have to make sure they've a realistic long-term plan, even if in real terms, all clubs will be trying to survive on a weekly basis.

[culloty82]

Hmm, doesn't appear as though Dynamos have held any meeting, or if they did, no details were released - when is the deadline for clubs to make a final decision?

[geezer]

Hmm, doesn't appear as though Dynamos have held any meeting, or if they did, no details were released - when is the deadline for clubs to make a final decision?


tomorrow is the deadline for expressions of interest

[culloty82]

Interview with Maurice O'Rahilly of Tralee Dynamos in today's Kerry's Eye - basically says that the club were frustrated with how the whole application process finished in the spring, and that they're focused on returning to the Kerry top flight, so that pretty much confirms they haven't applied this year.

[legendz]

What's the status of the LoI First Division now? Is it capped at 8 clubs for the foreseeable future or are potential new clubs welcome to apply every year?

[nigel-harps1954]

What's the status of the LoI First Division now? Is it capped at 8 clubs for the foreseeable future or are potential new clubs welcome to apply every year?

Goddamit man, don't you know, this is the League of Ireland. We'll need a few new teams again yet.

[culloty82]

What's the status of the LoI First Division now? Is it capped at 8 clubs for the foreseeable future or are potential new clubs welcome to apply every year?

I'd imagine the FAI want to get back to 10 First Division teams if at all possible, but as for Kerry, you basically need some independent group following Cork and GUST's lead, before then getting everyone in Kerry soccer round the table. And even if that long shot came off, you need someone with sufficient clout to convince the general public to subscribe to the project. It all sounds very pie-in-the-sky, I'll admit, but no-one seems willing to break the current stalemate.

[legendz]

I'd imagine the FAI want to get back to 10 First Division teams if at all possible, but as for Kerry, you basically need some independent group following Cork and GUST's lead, before then getting everyone in Kerry soccer round the table. And even if that long shot came off, you need someone with sufficient clout to convince the general public to subscribe to the project. It all sounds very pie-in-the-sky, I'll admit, but no-one seems willing to break the current stalemate.

Yeah, it's a shame really. With the way the game has progressed in the county, it's a pity there is not a club for the county on the national stage to promote the game more.

For now Dynamos seem to be doing the right thing to focus on the KDL.

[Charlie Darwin]

What's the status of the LoI First Division now? Is it capped at 8 clubs for the foreseeable future or are potential new clubs welcome to apply every year?
"Capped" implies the number could go up as well as down. We only go one direction in this league.

[legendz]

I'd imagine the FAI want to get back to 10 First Division teams if at all possible, but as for Kerry, you basically need some independent group following Cork and GUST's lead, before then getting everyone in Kerry soccer round the table. And even if that long shot came off, you need someone with sufficient clout to convince the general public to subscribe to the project. It all sounds very pie-in-the-sky, I'll admit, but no-one seems willing to break the current stalemate.
Have you been following the reports of the FAI setting up a Connaught Senior League? An Ulster Senior League either has been set-up or is in the process of being set-up as well!

Dynamos will have some grounds to be frustrated at this. The Munster Senior League is effectively the Cork Senior League. It's surprising really that there is'nt an intermediate league with one or two clubs from each of Limerick, Waterford, Tipperary, Clare and Kerry along the lines of a Munster District League or something like that. Throw in a one or two reserve sides from the provinces LoI teams and you'd be looking at a 10-12 team league. With the A Championship vanished and LoI football being fallacy, it would seem the only way forward?

[nigel-harps1954]

Ulster senior league has been going since the early 80's.

[legendz]

Ulster senior league has been going since the early 80's.
Oh right. What was the story with Sligo Rovers being approached to field a reserve side in it?

[Mr A]

The league was short of teams so they asked Harps and Sligo to join. Harps have done so. Unfortunately they lost another club in the mean time as Buncrana Hearts had to withdraw citing a number of players emigrating or at college and unavailable.

[sadloserkid]

Limerick's top junior clubs have zero interest in a Munster Senior League.

[nigel-harps1954]

I'd imagine most clubs are happy as they are. The intermediate leagues aren't run much better than the senior leagues here.

The whole football system from top to bottom needs re-worked in this country.

[legendz]

I'd imagine most clubs are happy as they are. The intermediate leagues aren't run much better than the senior leagues here.

The whole football system from top to bottom needs re-worked in this country.

If clubs are happy where they are, is there a need for the system to be re-worked? I was musing over whether a CSL type league was possible in Munster aside from the Cork centric Munster Senior League. If what sadloserkid says it the case, that answers that.

[culloty82]

Not to mention that neither Dynamos nor Killarney Celtic will have pleasant memories of their last spell in the MSL - granted, a structure similar to that proposed in Connacht would be radically different, but it's strange that Tralee seemed to adjust better to national football than provincial level.

[legendz]

Not to mention that neither Dynamos nor Killarney Celtic will have pleasant memories of their last spell in the MSL - granted, a structure similar to that proposed in Connacht would be radically different, but it's strange that Tralee seemed to adjust better to national football than provincial level.
What's the story behind their last spell in the MSL?
Only ever caught a bit of what happened their. Reason I was musing over a Munster District League for the rest of the province but appears to be fallacy, which is unfortunate but fair enough.

[Shannonsider]

Limerick's top junior clubs have zero interest in a Munster Senior League.

It is a catch 22 situation. No club has shown interest since Limerick clubs began to pull out of the MSL. Now one club just won't show interest because every single other side will be from Cork and travelling every second week isn't financially viable for them.

[legendz]

It is a catch 22 situation. No club has shown interest since Limerick clubs began to pull out of the MSL. Now one club just won't show interest because every single other side will be from Cork and travelling every second week isn't financially viable for them.

Do you think if the FAI made a push for a Munster District League for 5 counties of Munster, leaving out Cork, a long the lines of the mooted Connaught Senior League, that one or two Limerick clubs might join?

[culloty82]

At the launch of Galway FC, Delaney was questioned by Newstalk about whether the FAI would consider Rovers B or Tralee for the First Division - not sure where the speculation arose, as there has been little local discussion of the topic and neither the facilities nor the finances have changed to any degree since the failed 2012 bid.

[sadloserkid]

At the launch of Galway FC, Delaney was questioned by Newstalk about whether the FAI would consider Rovers B or Tralee for the First Division - not sure where the speculation arose, as there has been little local discussion of the topic and neither the facilities nor the finances have changed to any degree since the failed 2012 bid.

And what did he say? :confused: He was reported elsewhere as saying that he does want eight teams at the Galway launch.

[culloty82]

Basically, that even if both put applications, he would prefer a division of eight, rather than nine. All rather non-committal, that any expression of interest would be judged on its merits, and that he would welcome a Kerry application if it fulfilled all the licensing conditions. It was Oisin Langan of Newstalk, rather than anyone from Kerry who asked the question, maybe he's heard whispers on the grapevine?

[sadloserkid]

Basically, that even if both put applications, he would prefer a division of eight, rather than nine. All rather non-committal, that any expression of interest would be judged on its merits, and that he would welcome a Kerry application if it fulfilled all the licensing conditions. It was Oisin Langan of Newstalk, rather than anyone from Kerry who asked the question, maybe he's heard whispers on the grapevine?

I'm just being nosy now but is there still interest in Tralee? I'd much rather see them in than anybody's B team if they were willing to have a crack at it.

[culloty82]

Nah, it's only likely to ever happen as a Kerry County set-up, so even if the U-19's start flying, 2015 would still be optimistic for a senior team to join.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an issue with the Kerry league after Tralee's application was denied, where they belonged in the structure? Might be influencing Tralee's thinking on the topic now.

[culloty82]

Tralee were placed two divisions below the top-flight, but they've won every league game bar one over the last two seasons, so they're on course to return to Premier A next August.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Yeah, so, the idea that they might get bumped down again if they make another failed application can't be too far away from their minds.

[legendz]

At the launch of Galway FC, Delaney was questioned by Newstalk about whether the FAI would consider Rovers B or Tralee for the First Division - not sure where the speculation arose, as there has been little local discussion of the topic and neither the facilities nor the finances have changed to any degree since the failed 2012 bid.Oh, was that newstalk who carried out the interview? Heard that on radio Kerry during the week. I was surprised to hear dynamos mentioned.
The main news from Kerry really is that we should have an U19 team late next year if the upgrade of mounthawk is complete. It'll be a start at least. I'd like to see the Kerry League return to the league cup as well.

[culloty82]

So, the Dennehy brothers helping Cork to joint-leadership of the Premier, while Kerry prepare for tomorrow's Oscar Traynor semi - just shows the potential of Kerry soccer if only there was the will and/or the popular demand.

[OwlsFan]

55 thousand views on a topic on Tralee Dynamos - very impressive. The Wikipedia page on the club is a bit lacking on information for a club founded back in the 1960s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tralee_Dynamos_F.C.

Some information here though. http://traleedynamos.com/Dynamos.htm

Must be tough for a soccer club to survive in the heartland of Gaelic football. Well done to all involved.

[culloty82]

Timely that OwlsFan revived the thread, as Dynamos debate whether to enter the Under-17 League, now that the KDL have pulled the plug on their entry. That said, the KDL had good groynds for refusing, such as no dual registration, the requirement of a professional physio and a coach with a UEFA B licence (to be A next season), and estimated €20,000 seasonal costs, so not sure how Tralee will be able to afford going national, when they're still recovering from the A Championship.

[BoyInGreen]

Timely that OwlsFan revived the thread, as Dynamos debate whether to enter the Under-17 League, now that the KDL have pulled the plug on their entry. That said, the KDL had good groynds for refusing, such as no dual registration, the requirement of a professional physio and a coach with a UEFA B licence (to be A next season), and estimated €20,000 seasonal costs, so not sure how Tralee will be able to afford going national, when they're still recovering from the A Championship.

The KDL haven't pulled the plug yet. They're having a delegate meeting on the subject today week. When it was raised on their Facebook page that having two Tralee-based teams wasn't a good idea, they simply deleted the post. Does anybody have an idea what's going on?

[nigel-harps1954]

Would it be an idea for all the clubs in Kerry to knock heads and start a Kerry FC or something of the likes, run by the KDL with an input from all the clubs for the benefit of football in the region? Or, is it a case, like the rest of the country where they're all fighting for scraps amongst each other?

[BoyInGreen]

Would it be an idea for all the clubs in Kerry to knock heads and start a Kerry FC or something of the likes, run by the KDL with an input from all the clubs for the benefit of football in the region? Or, is it a case, like the rest of the country where they're all fighting for scraps amongst each other?

That was the plan initially, I believe, however Dynamos have now gone off their own bat, after the Kerry's Eye report. If there needs to be two Kerry clubs in the U17 league, the second should be Killarney Celtic, not the KDL. Kerry FC would only work as the sole LOI club in the county.

[disgruntled]

Would it be an idea for all the clubs in Kerry to knock heads and start a Kerry FC or something of the likes, run by the KDL with an input from all the clubs for the benefit of football in the region? Or, is it a case, like the rest of the country where they're all fighting for scraps amongst each other?

That's what it is really.
Its the same all over the country where clubs won't work for the greater good in case they lose out themselves.
They have always failed to understand that if the overall product gets stronger it will benefit themselves as well.

[culloty82]

So, the KDL will discuss their own entry at the League's monthly meeting on Monday, even while Dynamos are setting up an exploratory committee, which would involve many of the same clubs! Perhaps there may be room for two Kerry teams in the same national league, but both would be looking to pick players from Fenit, Dingle, Killarney Celtic, etc, so some co-ordination between both sides will be required.