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seand60
04/03/2009, 10:50 AM
Due to financial constraints the national brodcaster is dropping its Friday night coverage of the League. Also the first division is being consigned to the wilderness as Aertel and the RTE website will not be carrying any reports on the division as they did previously. Just updates and final scores. Maybe sponsors Newstalk could take on what RTE is dropping?
Bunny Kelly
04/03/2009, 11:37 AM
Not even reports on the First Division, thats pathetic if you ask me, over half the clubs in the league will no longer exist according to our national broadcaster
Battery Rover
04/03/2009, 11:43 AM
Not even reports on the First Division, thats pathetic if you ask me, over half the clubs in the league will no longer exist according to our national broadcaster
They are looking for altenatives like clubs looking after the reports themselves but this may not be an option for some clubs.
A face
04/03/2009, 11:50 AM
Due to financial constraints the national brodcaster is dropping its Friday night coverage of the League.
We knew this at the end of the season in 2008
blue til i die
04/03/2009, 11:59 AM
Most clubs have match reports on their websites shortly afterwards anyway. and tbh that doesnt surprise me, the first division doesn't really exits to anyone outside it, and especially to RTE, even ask Fran Gavin. :mad:
If RTE don't make cuts in that service they won't be able to continue to pay the wages of their big stars. If Pat Kenny & others don't get that money they will go........errrr somewhere else...
Its also not like RTE get a licence fee increase linked to inflation....Oh wait...
harps1954
04/03/2009, 1:41 PM
RTE will forget about the First Division but still spend money on coverage of the English Premiership and the Champions League.
Joey Killester
04/03/2009, 2:00 PM
Due to financial constraints the national brodcaster is dropping its Friday night coverage of the League.
Does this mean no matches shown? Thats a bit vague.
all drogged up
04/03/2009, 2:00 PM
aw look lads quit the whinging
why can't some clubs do the reports themselves? Team sheets plus major events i.e. cards, subs, goals, controversial decisions and times of each shouldn't be hard to muster?! Even if you have to get some ten year old in the crowd to do it.
Who knew RTÉ were cr@p?!
Don't give them an excuse, get out there and make it easy for them to cover the division if it matters that much to you. Costs are an issue do it for them at no cost and you might get your coverage - whinge and you definitely won't.
btw really hopeful we won't be in 1st div next year but it's a possibility for us - so am not just saying this cos we're in the premier at the moment. If the chips are down - knuckle down and fix the problem!
Bunny Kelly
04/03/2009, 2:05 PM
aw look lads quit the whinging
why can't some clubs do the reports themselves? Team sheets plus major events i.e. cards, subs, goals, controversial decisions and times of each shouldn't be hard to muster?! Even if you have to get some ten year old in the crowd to do it.
How appropriate for a Drogs fan to say this given their match reports over the last few years
Battery Rover
04/03/2009, 2:12 PM
How appropriate for a Drogs fan to say this given their match reports over the last few years
Was going to say that myself. They want unbiased reports.
How appropriate for a Drogs fan to say this given their match reports over the last few years
He doesn't do the reports any more as too busy running the club :cool:
I think Friday Night Sport is to be cancelled so it affect other sports such as rugby (when they play on that night).
RTEs funding is a joke as no link from licence fee to public service broadcasting but thats probably for another thread...
Massop 10
04/03/2009, 2:22 PM
If the Drogs were down in the first division would all drogged up still be on such a high horse ? Me thinks not !!!!
Joke of a decision
Glad I don't pay my licence
Shocking decision by rte to tell the truth.I hope Newstalk can step in cover the league with regards to updates etc.
Sam_Heggy
04/03/2009, 3:23 PM
I wonder how much it would add up to if each fan that supports a first divison team chose not to pay their tv licences?
Harps - 500 fans (I mean hardcore fans)
Shels - 500
Waterford - 300
Fingal - 10
Kildare - 20
Monaghan - 20
UCD - 50
Athlone - 200
Limerick - 150
Mervue - ? 20?
Longford - 300
Wexford - 200
That would be 2270 minimum fans (that can't be right :confused: ), at €165 per head is €374,550 per year.
Ok looking at it that way, just cover Shels and Harps games forget aboutt he rest :p
sligoman
04/03/2009, 3:27 PM
I wonder how much it would add up to if each fan that supports a first divison team chose not to pay their tv licences?
That would be 2270 minimum fans (that can't be right :confused: ), at €165I wonder how much it would add up to in court fines if each of those fans chose not to pay their TV licence?
Sam_Heggy
04/03/2009, 3:33 PM
I wonder how much it would add up to in court fines if each of those fans chose not to pay their TV licence?
I dunno, but I doubt a mass protest would work if its only 2 thousand or so folks involved.
I dunno, but I doubt a mass protest would work if its only 2 thousand or so folks involved.
Pussies! maxi did it on his own
gufc2000
04/03/2009, 3:59 PM
Disgraceful, they call themselves Irish, and won't even broadcast enough LOI. Newstalk are in a whole different league
Disgraceful, they call themselves Irish, and won't even broadcast enough LOI. Newstalk are in a whole different league
Have not seen any evidence of this?
Just checked there also - Setanta website doesnt mention, never mind cover the first division
all drogged up
04/03/2009, 4:18 PM
I'm not on a high horse - I love my club and the league but face it it's hardly the best supported league in the world, is it? And first div clubs tend to be even less so.
RTÉ broadcast to 5m or so people around the island - about 20,000 of us follow LoI. plenty of fariweather fans bu tyou can't really count them.
Not defending RTE just askin you lot to get real - stop being negative and try to promote your clubs if no one else will do it for you. sniping at me or the Drogs won't help anyone either. And if we get relegated anytime soon it'd be sh!t but I reckon someone at the club would engineer a match report per game.
Personally I prefer an unbiased account of the game which is what you'd get, for the most part, in what I outlined in my first post.
like I say crying over an RTÉ decision won't help the first Div.
Bunny Kelly
04/03/2009, 4:19 PM
What's the story with extra-time regards this, they did some First Div games last year but could be a little hit & miss, any plans to cover all the games in the new season now they have a year under their belt?
I'm not on a high horse - I love my club and the league but face it it's hardly the best supported league in the world, is it? And first div clubs tend to be even less so
But is the lack of support because of lack of coverage, or is the lack of coverage because of the lack of support.
Both could be argued. RTE had figures of over 300k for some of their live LOI games in the last couple of years so there is somewhat of an audience there
Gareth
04/03/2009, 4:25 PM
What's the story with extra-time regards this, they did some First Div games last year but could be a little hit & miss, any plans to cover all the games in the new season now they have a year under their belt?
In a word, yes.
soccerc
04/03/2009, 4:34 PM
I wonder how much it would add up to if each fan that supports a first divison team chose not to pay their tv licences?
That would be 2270 minimum fans (that can't be right :confused: ), at €165 per head is €374,550 per year.
Ok looking at it that way, just cover Shels and Harps games forget aboutt he rest :p
Wouldn't affect RTE as they don't collect or receive the licence fee:D
Both could be argued. RTE had figures of over 300k for some of their live LOI games in the last couple of years so there is somewhat of an audience there
True. However the figures were terrible last year. I can't remember waht the Cup final was but I think even that was barely above 100k (open to correction). I thought numbers might be better for MNS but only ones I heard were approx 80k.
BohDiddley
04/03/2009, 5:42 PM
Don't see this anywhere. Link?
Are people really saying that the First Division doesn't warrant mention on Aertel because of the lack of support?
Tis-smeee
04/03/2009, 8:53 PM
Surely the minister for sport or telly or someone should be having a word , can we not do a bit of an email campaign thingy ????? To the relevent people??
Réiteoir
04/03/2009, 9:20 PM
ah ffs
bang goes the only radio coverage for those of us outside of Ireland
****ing disgraceful
EDIT: And I did drop an email to RTÉ asking if Friday Sportsnight would be back for the new season - I got a reply back on Monday from the Friday Sportsnight email account (the one we use to email the show on a Friday night) telling me to forward the email onto a couple of other people within RTÉ.
I'm yet to receive even an acknowledgement from them - let alone a reply...
If you want to email someone within RTÉ who it looks like has some responsibility for this then: paddy.glackin@rte.ie and roy.willoughby@rte.ie are the people to contact
Dodge
04/03/2009, 10:05 PM
Did you e-mail newstalk and ask them about their coverage? (and yeah I'm too lazy to do it myself)
SligoBrewer
04/03/2009, 10:27 PM
Surely the minister for sport
D0mEv4tPekI
Jofspring
04/03/2009, 10:40 PM
I usually checked extratime for write ups on the matches. The limerick one was good as where otheres. I'd say the lads doing those would be willing to send in a quick round up of there home match to RTE to throw up on aertel, as someone said before, goals, cards team etc... At least one person from every club anyway would most likely to be willing to do it. They'd probably do a better job too, get names of scores right and things like that.
The Lilywhites
04/03/2009, 10:54 PM
If you want a service that has previews and reports from the first division games, goals as it happens, and lineups etc, that is exactly what extratime.ie are going to give you. Why do you need that on RTE if you can get it from extratime?
scottish_bohs
04/03/2009, 10:54 PM
Why does it have to be on RTE or Aertel? Extratime are going to be offering a comprehensive coverage of both divisions this season. So, why not just log on to Extratime.ie and enjoy their coverage and support a site with a genuine interest in the league?
dcfcsteve
04/03/2009, 11:24 PM
RTE will forget about the First Division but still spend money on coverage of the English Premiership and the Champions League.
Of course they will.
We haven't exactly seen a clamour of advertisers looking to cover the LOI First Division, now, have we....? :rolleyes:
RTE reflects what Irish people want to watch. And it ain't the LOI First Division...
A face
04/03/2009, 11:48 PM
RTE reflects what Irish people want to watch. And it ain't the LOI First Division...
And that would be fair enough if it were TV3, its not .... its the National Broadcaster and they take a license fee. They can say whatever they want but LOI is their remit.
soccerc
04/03/2009, 11:55 PM
And that would be fair enough if it were TV3, its not .... its the National Broadcaster and they take a license fee. They can say whatever they want but LOI is their remit.
I refer you to post #26 (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=1116585&postcount=26)
dcfcsteve
05/03/2009, 1:35 AM
And that would be fair enough if it were TV3, its not .... its the National Broadcaster and they take a license fee. They can say whatever they want but LOI is their remit.
Ignoring the inaccuracy in your response, the nation has shown time and again that it has limited appetite for LOI football. Hence why RTE can feel free to give it less attention that you believe it deserves.
We need to waken up to the fact that we are a minority interest, and stop expecting the world to do us a favour out of some idealistic compulsion. When we sort our league out - in terms of finances, facilities etc - then we can start looking externally to see who we think should be helping us out. But at the moment we're not even helping ourselves.
:ball:
I'm not on a high horse - I love my club and the league but face it it's hardly the best supported league in the world, is it? And first div clubs tend to be even less so.
RTÉ broadcast to 5m or so people around the island - about 20,000 of us follow LoI. plenty of fariweather fans bu tyou can't really count them.
3 words: Public Service Broadcaster
If there to make cost savings from football, the UK football should be the first to go as there is no public service in them broadcasting it. It's available for free on BBC on satellite.
Dodge
05/03/2009, 10:20 AM
Why does it have to be on RTE or Aertel? Extratime are going to be offering a comprehensive coverage of both divisions this season. So, why not just log on to Extratime.ie and enjoy their coverage and support a site with a genuine interest in the league?
its not about LOI fans not gettin reports online. Its about people with a vague interest in the league not having access to reports.
That and some of the extratime writing is dreadful. Bias pouring out of most articles. Its great for news but most match reports are written by a supporter of one of the club involved, and that doesn't interest me.
fergalr
05/03/2009, 12:29 PM
Anyone hear RTE1 Morning Ireland today?
During their 8:30 sports section they mentioned that the league was starting this weekend and said something about how hopefully things would be better than last year.
Then, as a supposed preview, they cut to what sounded like a heavily edited interview by Tony O'D with Ollie Cahill. The whole interview was about Ollie's past experiences with Shels and Drogs and not one word, not a single word, about the new season.
You would swear that the objective of the piece was to put people off the LOI.
Réiteoir
05/03/2009, 1:27 PM
Just had a reply back from RTÉ concerning the email I sent them on Monday:
Dear Mr. Rock,
Unfortunately due to economic circumstances we are not in a position to broadcast Friday night Sport in 2009. This is a decision we have had to reluctantly take in the context of our overall financial situation. It is one of many measures that are being implemented across a range of programmes and I can assure we will be keeping this situation under constant review and if there is a possibility of re instating this programme it will happen as a matter of priority.
I do share with you a certain fondness for Bohs.
Best Wishes
Paddy Glackin
RIP Friday Sportsnight - you've served us well over the past few years :(
seand60
05/03/2009, 1:33 PM
By not putting up first division reports on Aertel and the RTE website the state broadcaster is saving all of €200 a week!
Boh_So_Good
05/03/2009, 5:42 PM
Does Marty Whealan still have a job at RTE?
Surely they have to hang onto their top talents.
kingdom hoop
05/03/2009, 6:50 PM
By not putting up first division reports on Aertel and the RTE website the state broadcaster is saving all of €200 a week!
Maybe home-team PROs could do up little factual, non-biased reports and submit them or put them up themselves? I'm pretty sure PROs have access to the results / fixtures pages for Local Soccer on Aertel so it wouldn't be stretching things too much for RTE to allow it. Obviously there's more opportunity for abuse when doing more than just inputting results but if they were certified Club Officers the legitimacy aspect would be softened somewhat. Kind of a Wikipedia-ifying of RTE? :)
Does Marty Whealan still have a job at RTE?
Surely they have to hang onto their top talents.
He's presents late date on rte radio 1 every weeknight from 11.
sligoman
05/03/2009, 9:03 PM
Fair play to RTE, on the 6 o'clock news today (http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0305/6news_av.html?2502085,null,230) they discussed the financial trouble instead of previewing the season.
Fair play to RTE, on the 6 o'clock news today (http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0305/6news_av.html?2502085,null,230) they discussed the financial trouble instead of previewing the season.
RTE have enough left to recently update the News studio. I now have to look at Ann Doyles thigh as she sits sideways :rolleyes:
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