View Full Version : IFA out to kill off the biggest game of a season
Mr_Parker
17/02/2009, 12:41 AM
Scandelous punishment.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/glentoran-v-linfield-festive-tie-canned-14190694.html
Sheridan
17/02/2009, 12:54 AM
I'm sure the IFA would have been perfectly happy to administer a slap on the wrist, I'd imagine what happened was that the cops put the squeeze on them. It's a very bad idea for a club or body to defy the police, they have long memories and can make things very difficult. The policing costs, necessary or otherwise, for this year's game would have taken a fair chunk out of that 100k.
dcfcsteve
17/02/2009, 9:00 AM
The clubs do not to accept some responsibility here (especially the home side), but in my view the Police were most at fault for the episode at the last St Stephen's Day game.
It took them almost ten minutes to turn-up, and as soon as they did it all stopped. There's only so much stewards can do.
holidaysong
17/02/2009, 12:29 PM
Glentoran chairman Aubrey Ralph has said that Premier League clubs might consider leaving the Irish Football Association to form a breakaway league.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/irish/7894847.stm
jinxy lilywhite
17/02/2009, 2:01 PM
In all fairness if clubs can't control their supporters then they have no recourse on the punishment served. Even though it was probably a small minority of supporters steps have to taken to punish the clubs for failure to control their supporters. Fines are arbitary in that both clubs could probably easily of paid for it out of the gate and it probably isn't the only time this has happened over the history of the fixture. People need to be hit where it hurts and a temporary ban on the fixture seems sufficient.
I think the punishment fits the crime
gufc2000
17/02/2009, 2:07 PM
Glentoran chairman Aubrey Ralph has said that Premier League clubs might consider leaving the Irish Football Association to form a breakaway league.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/irish/7894847.stm
Time for the annual All-Ireland League proposals to swing into gear again
In all fairness if clubs can't control their supporters then they have no recourse on the punishment served. Even though it was probably a small minority of supporters steps have to taken to punish the clubs for failure to control their supporters. Fines are arbitary in that both clubs could probably easily of paid for it out of the gate and it probably isn't the only time this has happened over the history of the fixture. People need to be hit where it hurts and a temporary ban on the fixture seems sufficient.
I think the punishment fits the crime
It is quite frankly a bizaare decision. This is the biggest league game anywhere on this island and one that regular attracts five figure crowds, the only fixture anywhere north or south to do so. What then do the IFA do, they ban the most lucrative fixture of the season. Crazy. Incidentally this is the first there has been trouble at the Boxing Day fixture in many years. There has been much more serious trouble at other fixtures between the two so can anyone explain the logic in such an action?
dcfcsteve
17/02/2009, 3:27 PM
In all fairness if clubs can't control their supporters then they have no recourse on the punishment served. Even though it was probably a small minority of supporters steps have to taken to punish the clubs for failure to control their supporters. Fines are arbitary in that both clubs could probably easily of paid for it out of the gate and it probably isn't the only time this has happened over the history of the fixture. People need to be hit where it hurts and a temporary ban on the fixture seems sufficient.
I think the punishment fits the crime
Will the Police also get fined for not doing their job properly and enabling a situation of handbags to escalate....?
AnnaghRed
17/02/2009, 4:59 PM
Apparently H&S regulations prevented the police from being kitted up to deal with any trouble, hence the delay while they donned their super-duper robo-cop gear :D
Police seem pretty toothless these days unless they spot you doing 45 in a 40 zone.
Krstic
17/02/2009, 8:49 PM
Fair play to the IFA, it's about time Linfield and their hooligan element were punished. At the end of the day it's not as if this was a one off, especially for that fixture.
MariborKev
17/02/2009, 10:47 PM
It is quite frankly a bizaare decision. This is the biggest league game anywhere on this island and one that regular attracts five figure crowds, the only fixture anywhere north or south to do so. What then do the IFA do, they ban the most lucrative fixture of the season. Crazy. Incidentally this is the first there has been trouble at the Boxing Day fixture in many years. There has been much more serious trouble at other fixtures between the two so can anyone explain the logic in such an action?
Cracker wan.
Last Boxing Day game to have a five figure attendance?
Graemerz
17/02/2009, 11:36 PM
http://southstandsays.co.uk/cmsv2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=29
http://southstandsays.co.uk/cmsv2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=180&Itemid=1
Two seperate articles here, both well written.
Cracker wan.
Last Boxing Day game to have a five figure attendance?
Two months ago.
Mr_Parker
18/02/2009, 12:25 PM
Two months ago.
Only an approximate figure was issued for that game. It seems Linfield are dragging their heels on confirming the number. The approximate number given was a four figure number, not five. ie 9,500.
MMVIII
18/02/2009, 12:39 PM
Fair play to the IFA, it's about time Linfield and their hooligan element were punished. At the end of the day it's not as if this was a one off, especially for that fixture.
But, it was the Glentoran fans who started this incident? They were the ones throwing the seats? :confused:
osarusan
18/02/2009, 12:42 PM
http://southstandsays.co.uk/cmsv2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=29
http://southstandsays.co.uk/cmsv2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=180&Itemid=1
Two seperate articles here, both well written.
To be honest, I read both and they are woefully written.
That said, the IFA need to be made explain how this option was chosen above other possible options.
Graemerz
18/02/2009, 12:49 PM
Linfield chairman for once has something good to say....
http://www.linfieldfc.com/interview.asp?inv=456
Only an approximate figure was issued for that game. It seems Linfield are dragging their heels on confirming the number. The approximate number given was a four figure number, not five. ie 9,500.
Linfield chairman gives a five figure number in his statement issued today:
http://www.linfieldfc.com/interview.asp?inv=456
dancinpants
18/02/2009, 5:13 PM
Linfield chairman gives a five figure number in his statement issued today:
http://www.linfieldfc.com/interview.asp?inv=456
:D "10,000 or so" - so definitive.
MariborKev
18/02/2009, 5:43 PM
Only an approximate figure was issued for that game. It seems Linfield are dragging their heels on confirming the number. The approximate number given was a four figure number, not five. ie 9,500.
Now now Mr P.
You know how this goes- the rest of us post first hand accounts, facts and other reputable sources.
Linfield fans continue the fantasy of five figures crowds.
Just let them have it.
I've been at the last few Boxing Day games and there hasn't been a five figure crowd in a while......
Not Brazil
18/02/2009, 10:17 PM
I've been at the last few Boxing Day games and there hasn't been a five figure crowd in a while......
The Linfield v Glentoran Boxing Day fixture is regularly the best attended league fixture of the year on this island.
I think that's the point, rather than whether it was 9,500 or 10,000 this past Boxing Day.
Mr_Parker
19/02/2009, 5:17 PM
Linfield chairman gives a five figure number in his statement issued today:
http://www.linfieldfc.com/interview.asp?inv=456
:rolleyes:
:D "10,000 or so" - so definitive.
;)
:rolleyes:
;)
"In terms of the financial loss, as I said to some pressmen today, we had 10,000 on Boxing Day."
;)
Mr_Parker
21/02/2009, 3:59 PM
"In terms of the financial loss, as I said to some pressmen today, we had 10,000 on Boxing Day."
;)
So that is now the official figure given to the IFA? :)
Sniffer
22/02/2009, 5:55 PM
So what? The exact attendance is not the issue. Here is the best attended league game of the season on this island being crushed. Another blow for our fading leagues.
holidaysong
12/03/2009, 4:32 PM
The Appeals Board have overturned the IFA Disciplinary Committee's decision:
As regards the penalty, we feel that the penalty to ban playing on holidays is not in the best interests of the promotion of football as it prevents a large number of true supporters from seeing their teams play. Thus the Appeals panel is lifting this sanction.
http://www.irishfa.com/the-ifa/news/4686/appeals-board-statement/
JerseyRed
12/03/2009, 11:50 PM
Well I never. Common sense has finally prevailed:D
Mr_Parker
14/03/2009, 10:09 AM
Well I never. Common sense has finally prevailed:D
Just in time for them to throw it out the window with their Irish Cup Semi Final kick-off decision.
JerseyRed
15/03/2009, 1:02 AM
Just in time for them to throw it out the window with their Irish Cup Semi Final kick-off decision.
You don't really think the club will get a clear response from their query do you?
Mr_Parker
15/03/2009, 10:45 AM
You don't really think the club will get a clear response from their query do you?
To a degree I do, but you would be right it might not be clear. I have little doubt the ko time won't change but there are a few other questions that need answered around the procedure that they used esp. in regards to how they 'consulted' our club.
Umberside
16/03/2009, 9:56 AM
The game is on tonight on Sky Sports 1. I will be watching it. I hope it will be a good match, certainly better than watching Ebbsfleet United take on Northwich Victoria in a Blue Square Premier Special which is normally on.
I'll miss the first half though, as I'll be watching MNS on RTÉ:D
Graemerz
17/03/2009, 12:04 PM
What a match it was too. Frantic.
Umberside
17/03/2009, 6:46 PM
Good enough match. Disappointed I had to wait for 92 minutes before I saw a goal.
Graemerz
17/03/2009, 9:43 PM
Good enough match. Disappointed I had to wait for 92 minutes before I saw a goal.
I wasn't. :D
Umberside
18/03/2009, 4:59 PM
I would've thought Linfield would've had it in the bag by that stage. Apart from a Gary Hamilton chance after the penalty, Glentoran did no attacking and could easily have lost by more.
mrtndvn
22/03/2009, 10:43 AM
I would've thought Linfield would've had it in the bag by that stage. Apart from a Gary Hamilton chance after the penalty, Glentoran did no attacking and could easily have lost by more.
We waited 90 odd minutes for a goal last Friday then two came along at once! Always the way eh!!??
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