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gspain
26/01/2009, 10:12 AM
Loathe to start a new thread but 2 rumours over the weekend

1) Sunday Times reported yesterday that Aviva (Hibernian) have won the naming rights for the new Lansdowne and it will be called the Aviva stadium in a €40 million deal. However a reliable source said this is definitely untrue and it is a different company however he wouldn't tell me who.

2) News from Limerick that Thomond Park will host an International in August (football). Same source did claim the cup final was to be played there last year but this is a done deal apparently. I am sceptical and certainly wouldn't recommend booking flights on this basis.

elroy
26/01/2009, 10:29 AM
Loathe to start a new thread but 2 rumours over the weekend

1) Sunday Times reported yesterday that Aviva (Hibernian) have won the naming rights for the new Lansdowne and it will be called the Aviva stadium in a €40 million deal. However a reliable source said this is definitely untrue and it is a different company however he wouldn't tell me who.

2) News from Limerick that Thomond Park will host an International in August (football). Same source did claim the cup final was to be played there last year but this is a done deal apparently. I am sceptical and certainly wouldn't recommend booking flights on this basis.

Considering its the Times, I would suspect that there is some foundation to the story. Aviva sounds alot better than say the Quinn Direct stadium anyways. Wonder how long the 40m would cover - ten years? Nice little earner for IRFU/FAI.

Tribune had the same story re friendly in August. As the capacity would be circa 25k, it is expected that the game will be against a "mid tier" European side. Great idea to have a friendly there imo.

gspain
26/01/2009, 10:36 AM
Considering its the Times, I would suspect that there is some foundation to the story. Aviva sounds alot better than say the Quinn Direct stadium anyways. Wonder how long the 40m would cover - ten years? Nice little earner for IRFU/FAI.

Tribune had the same story re friendly in August. As the capacity would be circa 25k, it is expected that the game will be against a "mid tier" European side. Great idea to have a friendly there imo.

€40 million is for 10 years with a 5 year extension option according to the ST. Sounds like a great deal to me. Would suit the likes of Aviva trying to establish a brand here. I assume it would just come off the building costs so reduce the amount the FAI (and IRFU) would have to pay.

Dodge
26/01/2009, 10:38 AM
Tribune had the same story re friendly in August. As the capacity would be circa 25k, it is expected that the game will be against a "mid tier" European side. Great idea to have a friendly there imo.

Capacity is 25k with terracing oin three sides of the ground.

Newryrep
26/01/2009, 11:00 AM
Considering its the Times, I would suspect that there is some foundation to the story. Aviva sounds alot better than say the Quinn Direct stadium anyways. Wonder how long the 40m would cover - ten years? Nice little earner for IRFU/FAI.

Tribune had the same story re friendly in August. As the capacity would be circa 25k, it is expected that the game will be against a "mid tier" European side. Great idea to have a friendly there imo.

I would agree with that , it could be called alot worse

Sligo Hornet
26/01/2009, 11:06 AM
Loathe to start a new thread but 2 rumours over the weekend

1) Sunday Times reported yesterday that Aviva (Hibernian) have won the naming rights for the new Lansdowne and it will be called the Aviva stadium in a €40 million deal. However a reliable source said this is definitely untrue and it is a different company however he wouldn't tell me who.

2) News from Limerick that Thomond Park will host an International in August (football). Same source did claim the cup final was to be played there last year but this is a done deal apparently. I am sceptical and certainly wouldn't recommend booking flights on this basis.

Would be perfect for a new National Stadium in Madrid!;)

Den Perry
26/01/2009, 11:14 AM
Speaking of the Sunday Times and I know I'm going a bit off topic here but does anybody find Hugh Mcillvaney is turning into a pain in the butt? His sentences are extremely long and he uses lots of "big" words - in fact I don't know the meaning of some of them(and I like to think I'm pretty good when it comes to the English language - better spell check here or I'll look stupid). I find him extremely annoying as a result of this and cannot understand why he writes in this way

Anybody else?

paul_oshea
26/01/2009, 12:06 PM
the best communicators are those that use the the simplest, clear and concise wording.

Me thinks he is doing this for effect....

amaccann
26/01/2009, 12:10 PM
Purely from an emotional point of view, I don't like the idea of renaming Landsdowne Road with some faceless companies name & it just sounds crass to call it the "Aviva Stadium", but obviously from a pragmatic view it makes sense as a money earner.

I would though like to see the proof that naming a damned stadium has any marketing logic to it, or a return on your investment. I can understand the value to advertising hoardings beside the pitch, or any standard branding of a physical space, but a building? I mean why stop there, why not buy the rights to the name of an actual location?

pineapple stu
26/01/2009, 12:16 PM
Capacity is 25k with terracing oin three sides of the ground.
Terracing's allowed for friendlies, though, isn't it? Always was in Lansdowne.

Wolfie
26/01/2009, 12:19 PM
Purely from an emotional point of view, I don't like the idea of renaming Landsdowne Road with some faceless companies name & it just sounds crass to call it the "Aviva Stadium", but obviously from a pragmatic view it makes sense as a money earner.

I would though like to see the proof that naming a damned stadium has any marketing logic to it, or a return on your investment. I can understand the value to advertising hoardings beside the pitch, or any standard branding of a physical space, but a building? I mean why stop there, why not buy the rights to the name of an actual location?

I'd imagine we'll all just call the place "Lansdowne" anyway - regardless of whatever Corporate monicker they add in order to secure the few quid.

Dodge
26/01/2009, 12:22 PM
I would though like to see the proof that naming a damned stadium has any marketing logic to it, or a return on your investment. I can understand the value to advertising hoardings beside the pitch, or any standard branding of a physical space, but a building? I mean why stop there, why not buy the rights to the name of an actual location?

Its just brand recognition. It only works with new stadiums though. How many people use the term Ashburton Grove for Arsenal's Emirates Stadium? I'd imagine it'll be less than those who use Lansdowne road. However all newspaper articles, TV coverage etc would be instructed to use Aviva so they'd be getting advertising on multiple levels

HammerNThongs
26/01/2009, 12:39 PM
Its just brand recognition. It only works with new stadiums though. How many people use the term Ashburton Grove for Arsenal's Emirates Stadium? I'd imagine it'll be less than those who use Lansdowne road. However all newspaper articles, TV coverage etc would be instructed to use Aviva so they'd be getting advertising on multiple levels

Would one not also assume that due to the stadium being named "Aviva" for example there wont be any advertising for companies like "Quinn" or "VHI" or whoever else are their competitors within the stadium?

Dodge
26/01/2009, 12:44 PM
Absolutely, but thats standard with all advertising now. You won't find ads for two different brands of the same product anywehre

tetsujin1979
26/01/2009, 12:50 PM
slightly off topic, but did Carling advertise in Anfield when they sponsored the Premiership, and Liverpool were sponsored by Carslberg?

Ash
26/01/2009, 12:58 PM
Loathe to start a new thread but 2 rumours over the weekend

1) Sunday Times reported yesterday that Aviva (Hibernian) have won the naming rights for the new Lansdowne and it will be called the Aviva stadium in a €40 million deal. However a reliable source said this is definitely untrue and it is a different company however he wouldn't tell me who.

Mate of mine works for Hibernian/Aviva and they were told back in October that they had won the naming rights for the new stadium

gspain
26/01/2009, 1:31 PM
Capacity is 25k with terracing oin three sides of the ground.

There is actually terracing on all 4 sides. Capacity is 26,000 but more than half of that is seating. Terracing is allowed for friendlies anyway.

I've been to quite a few rugby matches there and imo the best place to watch a match from the terracing in front of either stand.

I'd love to have an International match in Limerick.

I would imagine if a deal has been done for the naming rights a company would be keen to have it out there asap. You have the next year and half of free advertising. The naming rights for the main stadium for the most popular and 3rd most popular sports in the country is a sure way to get brand recognition.

NeilMcD
26/01/2009, 1:40 PM
I really hope that the food company Aviva get the rights I will certainly buy their food products if they do and it shows that advertising works. :)

geysir
26/01/2009, 1:57 PM
Likewise Neil,

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N0vBPiiNL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

gspain
26/01/2009, 2:13 PM
I really hope that the food company Aviva get the rights I will certainly buy theire food products if they do and it shows that advertising works. :)

Just heard it will be named after a company that makes engagement rings. :D

paul_oshea
26/01/2009, 2:46 PM
heard puma are going to be the new rugby sponsors as well and leinster.

Sligo Hornet
26/01/2009, 2:50 PM
Just heard it will be named after a company that makes engagement rings. :D

"The Run Like F*ck Stadium"........definitely got a ring to it!

Ash
26/01/2009, 3:07 PM
"The Run Like F*ck Stadium"........definitely got a ring to it!

Well its better than "Shotgun Pete's" :)

tetsujin1979
26/01/2009, 3:23 PM
Just heard it will be named after a company that makes engagement rings. :D
"The Happy Ring House" Stadium??
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/331673080_a4740a5dd5.jpg

geysir
26/01/2009, 3:58 PM
Could be some interesting 1/2 time entertainment sponsored by the Happy Ring House

UtPkxzHKLpk

blackholesun
26/01/2009, 3:59 PM
Aviva are a huge UK insurer who own Hibernian and Norwich Union amongst others. NU have been rebranded as Aviva in the UK recently and Hibernian Aviva will eventually become Aviva.

Sponsoring Lansdowne would be more about the Aviva brand and profile in the UK and rest of the world than Ireland particularly!

bhs

Sligo Hornet
26/01/2009, 4:22 PM
Aviva are a huge UK insurer who own Hibernian and Norwich Union amongst others. NU have been rebranded as Aviva in the UK recently and Hibernian Aviva will eventually become Aviva.

Sponsoring Lansdowne would be more about the Aviva brand and profile in the UK and rest of the world than Ireland particularly!

bhs

Come on get back on topic..........what's that got to do with Rings?

WexCar
26/01/2009, 5:20 PM
Purely from an emotional point of view, I don't like the idea of renaming Landsdowne Road with some faceless companies name & it just sounds crass to call it the "Aviva Stadium", but obviously from a pragmatic view it makes sense as a money earner.

I would though like to see the proof that naming a damned stadium has any marketing logic to it, or a return on your investment. I can understand the value to advertising hoardings beside the pitch, or any standard branding of a physical space, but a building? I mean why stop there, why not buy the rights to the name of an actual location?

like Toyota City in Japan

http://michinavitoyota.jp/cityDataE/guidebook/background/background.html

http://www.city.toyota.aichi.jp/e/index.html

eirebhoy
26/01/2009, 6:01 PM
Why oh why cant they just leave it as "Lansdowne Road" ??
40 million reasons why.

NeilMcD
26/01/2009, 8:21 PM
The commentators are class.

Noelys Guitar
26/01/2009, 9:28 PM
Could be some interesting 1/2 time entertainment sponsored by the Happy Ring House

UtPkxzHKLpk

What was he thinking. I believe they played this song as the poor guy left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1wztVx2a6g

geysir
26/01/2009, 9:34 PM
At least no one finished off his beer, that would have really been the pits.

NeilMcD
27/01/2009, 12:12 PM
Why oh why cant they just leave it as "Lansdowne Road" ??

With a name like yours surely you should know why they can't leave it at Landsdowne Road.

seanfhear
27/01/2009, 12:42 PM
What was he thinking. I believe they played this song as the poor guy left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1wztVx2a6g
The whole thing looked like an act to me. Was there any follow up to see if the whole thing was a put up job.

geysir
27/01/2009, 10:57 PM
Its the USA, fake IS real, ffs.

gspain
30/01/2009, 7:36 AM
I spoke with my source again and the he has now confirmed that the ST story is broadly correct. Aviva had moved ahead of a direct competitior of theirs and now look likely to win the naming rights. He is not involved in the process and wasn't aware of this on sunday.

ifk101
30/01/2009, 8:20 AM
I spoke with my source again and the he has now confirmed that the ST story is broadly correct. Aviva had moved ahead of a direct competitior of theirs and now look likely to win the naming rights. He is not involved in the process and wasn't aware of this on sunday.

They said on the RTE six o'clock news last night that the stadium would be known as the Aviva stadium.

Wolfie
30/01/2009, 12:39 PM
They said on the RTE six o'clock news last night that the stadium would be known as the Aviva stadium.

So its settled then.

"Lansdowne Road" it is.

geysir
30/01/2009, 8:51 PM
7 day board suspension for anyone who calls it the A***a

stojkovic
30/01/2009, 9:03 PM
It will be Lansdowne Road to me til the day I die.

Cant believe people refer to the Point as O2 already, shocking.

Remember seeing Billy Connolly years ago and he walked out and said "Welcome to the Labatts Apollo, ****** its the f**king Hammersmith Odeon"

OwlsFan
18/02/2009, 10:57 AM
1) Sunday Times reported yesterday that Aviva (Hibernian) have won the naming rights for the new Lansdowne and it will be called the Aviva stadium in a €40 million deal. However a reliable source said this is definitely untrue and it is a different company however he wouldn't tell me who.

I'd sack that "reliable source" if I was you :p

Wolfie
18/02/2009, 12:33 PM
I'd sack that "reliable source" if I was you :p

Indeed. The Neville Chamberlain of exclusive naming rights info.

gspain
18/02/2009, 2:50 PM
I'd sack that "reliable source" if I was you :p

I corrected it on Jan 30th - see post on that date.

Aviva moved ahead of a direct rival (same industry) in the bidding. He wasn't aware of that on the day the ST broke the story.