Robert Elliot G Gateshead b.1986

[richieos]

I was on another forum earlier and a charlton fan gave his opinions on darren randolph. he said that ireland fans would be better off turning their attentions to Robert Elliot, the 22 year old keeper who is now first choice for them

here is the link to his wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elliot

has anyone ever seen him play? theres a serious lack of good goalkeepers coming through for us

[dr_peepee]

I was on another forum earlier and a charlton fan gave his opinions on darren randolph. he said that ireland fans would be better off turning their attentions to Robert Elliot, the 22 year old keeper who is now first choice for them

here is the link to his wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elliot

has anyone ever seen him play? theres a serious lack of good goalkeepers coming through for us

I dunno. I think the days of Given, Keily and Kelly were the exception to the rule in terms of goalkeeping depth and I think now we're a bit better off than we were say 18 months ago with Colgan.

We've a few years left with Given. Westwood from Coventry is attracting alot of media speculation about potential moves to the premiership (as his Kenny, though for less desirable reasons). Murphy is Championship standard. And the futures still in the air for Doyle, Supple & Randolph

[OwlsFan]

He's a busy man if he's the Charlton keeper. Bottom of the Championship and conceding a lot of goals.

[Stuttgart88]

Watched him on telly recently. Very strong kick, confident demeanour but average enough 'keeper. Not overly tall.

[tetsujin1979]

on the bench today for Newcastle

[theworm2345]

Makes his debut tonight in the Carling Cup

[theworm2345]

Starts tonight in the Europa League for Newcastle, only his second appearance for them. Just made a nice save to keep it at 0-0. I'm not sure why it appears there is not a single fan in the stadium...possibly a ban.

[tricky_colour]

He's a busy man if he's the Charlton keeper. Bottom of the Championship and conceding a lot of goals.

Well at least he is getting plenty of practise :)

[Olé Olé]

Fair play, he kept a clean sheet in Europe. But he has his work cut out for him if he's going to keep Mark Bunn out of the Ireland side!

[gastric]

Fair play, he kept a clean sheet in Europe. But he has his work cut out for him if he's going to keep Mark Bunn out of the Ireland side!

A cheap, nasty and vindictive post obviously aimed at me! While there is certainly a lot of tension between us, I have tried to diffuse the tension in the debate as it was going nowhere ( time will tell what happens). The same debate nearly started to infest the Mark O'Brien thread (not instigated by you, but another poster) and now it has started here. If anyone wants to continue this debate, go back to the Mark Bunn thread.

[Olé Olé]

A cheap, nasty and vindictive post obviously aimed at me! While there is certainly a lot of tension between us, I have tried to diffuse the tension in the debate as it was going nowhere ( time will tell what happens). The same debate nearly started to infest the Mark O'Brien thread (not instigated by you, but others) and now it has started here. If anyone wants to continue this debate, go back to the Mark Bunn thread.

No need for such melodrama. It was a post directed at the OP which asked "Robert Elliott- Future Ireland Keeper?". I thought the Mark Bunn reference was apt in this context and was meant in light humour, not offence.

In order to ensure this post maintains Rob Elliott-relevance... this guy's namesake played for Newcastle too. He wasn't a bad left-back. I wonder would he have troubled Ian Harte for a spot.

[gastric]

No need for such melodrama. It was a post directed at the OP which asked "Robert Elliott- Future Ireland Keeper?". I thought the Mark Bunn reference was apt in this context and was meant in light humour, not offence.

In order to ensure this post maintains Rob Elliott-relevance... this guy's namesake played for Newcastle too. He wasn't a bad left-back. I wonder would he have troubled Ian Harte for a spot.

There is no melodrama, but I am sick of our argument appearing in other threads. Your latest post continues this.and you seem to want me to react.

[Adrock]

This guy played one friendly pre season under-19 match some 8 or 9 years ago, then never represented Ireland again. I doubt he's even eligible to play for us even if he was inclined to.

[gastric]

Moving on to the game itself, watched it this morning, weird ground in terms of design and I agree with you Worm, the home fans must have been banned for some reason as the only cheering seemed to be for Newcastle. Hard to rate Elliott as he didn't have much to do, however, he did make two saves of note. On his eligibility, I am sure he is eligible, another possible option for us.

[Olé Olé]

There is no melodrama, but I am sick of our argument appearing in other threads. Your latest post continues this.and you seem to want me to react.

There clearly is melodrama again in this post. Melodrama in the fact that you state "other threads" in plural, when this is the only reference I have made to Mark Bunn or our 'debate' outside of the Mark Bunn thread so I'm not quite sure how you could be "sick of" it appearing elsewhere. I think you've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't continued anything, I've made a light-hearted joke which you've seen reason to take umbrage with.

[gastric]

Read post 10 please. if you want to continue this, go to the Mark Bunn thread. Did you watch the game last night and if you did, what did you think of Elliot's performance?

[Colbert Report]

Will you two just get a room already?

Where is he on Newcastle's depth chart, third behind Krul and Harper?

[gastric]

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Will you two just get a room already?

Where is he on Newcastle's depth chart, third behind Krul and Harper?

Point taken Colbert. Pardew very happy with Elliot's performance - I thought he did okay.


http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/match-reaction/274164/pardew-lauds-elliot

[theworm2345]

Had to be removed towards the end of the first half today due to injury. Was watching at work so couldn't have the sound on so I'm not sure what it was.

[gastric]

He seemed to play well in the first half. can't find out the nature of his injury though.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/match-report/274201/newcastle-united-v-bordeaux

[TheBoss]

For the doubters, UEFA have him as Irish:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/clubs/player=250051273/index.html

[theworm2345]

Had to be removed towards the end of the first half today due to injury. Was watching at work so couldn't have the sound on so I'm not sure what it was.
Back in the squad for Newcastle's Europa League match tonight, on the bench in fact. Trickovski is playing for Brugge...remembered him from scoring against us for Macedonia.

[theworm2345]

Starts tonight for Newcastle in the Europa League. Just pulled off a great save too.

[Charlie Darwin]

Just realised he made his Premier League debut today in the win vs Southampton. Conceded within three minutes!

[fionnsci]

Not a whole lot he could've done about the goals. Had some nice saves and set up a wonder goal. Wonder if Trap knows about him.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Maybe in around 10 years time.
:rolleyes:
If he's still alive...

[DannyInvincible]

Elliot will be called up for the friendly against England in May, according to the Irish Daily Star: http://www.98fm.com/2013/category-news-sport/category-sport/elliot-ireland-2013-2602/


It’s claimed Newcastle United goalkeeper Rob Elliot is on the brink of a full Republic of Ireland call-up. The 26 year old – who made his Premier League debut in the 4-2 win over Southampton at the weekend – was capped for Ireland at Under 19 level – all of 9 years ago. The Irish Daily Star today says the English-born Elliot will be called in for the big friendly with England at Wembley in May.

[paul_oshea]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/22/newcastle-united-tim-krul

krul out for 5 weeks, hopefully wont get back in, we need a keeper playing higher than Milwall week in/week out.

[SkStu]

does the Norwegian lad count Paul? Sean McDermott. Is that a higher level do you think? Genuinely curious.

Ive always felt that the argument about what level a player plays at being relevant to how good he is is less relevant for goalkeepers than it is for an outfield player. If you can save a blemmer in Div 2, you can probably save a blemmer in Div 1, and so on...

[Irish_Praha]

does the Norwegian lad count Paul? Sean McDermott. Is that a higher level do you think? Genuinely curious.

Ive always felt that the argument about what level a player plays at being relevant to how good he is is less relevant for goalkeepers than it is for an outfield player. If you can save a blemmer in Div 2, you can probably save a blemmer in Div 1, and so on...

I think that is probably true if you just compare their shot-stopping abilities and perhaps a few other attributes but you would expect the 'keeper playing at a higher level to have a better all round game and "should" be less likely to have a few brain-farts per game.

[paul_oshea]

I'd agree with everything IP said above to be honest.

I think concentration and game changers/clambers are the big difference.

[SkStu]

Yeah, id agree too overall but i just think that - strictly compared to an outfield player being in the same scenario - a keeper playing in a lesser division has a better chance of holding his own or being successful when thrown in at a higher level without deficiencies being so apparent. Does that make sense?

The real question I was curious about was around McDermott in the Norwegian premier league and whether people think that level (playing against pretty successful teams as mentioned in the article) would be higher than Milwall? Its pretty close for me...

[Sleepingpartner]

If you can save a blemmer in Div 2, you can probably save a blemmer in Div 1, and so on...
A blemmer. Are you sure?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blemmer

[DannyInvincible]

The real question I was curious about was around McDermott in the Norwegian premier league and whether people think that level (playing against pretty successful teams as mentioned in the article) would be higher than Milwall? Its pretty close for me...

Which successful teams/article are you referring to? Rosenborg, Molde and the like? The Tippeligaen is ranked 27th in Europe (http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2013.html). For comparison, the League of Ireland is ranked 36th at present whilst the SPL is ranked 24th, so I guess the standard would be somewhere in between there, if that provides any greater insight. I reckon Millwall would play at a higher standard and would regularly face tougher sides in the Championship than those against whom Sandnes Ulf would compete in the Norwegian league, but I can't say for certain.

For what it's worth, Sandnes Ulf finished bottom of the table last season, although won the relegation play-off, so managed to remain in the top division.

[peadar1987]

Which successful teams/article are you referring to? Rosenborg, Molde and the like? The Tippeligaen is ranked 27th in Europe (http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2013.html). For comparison, the League of Ireland is ranked 36th at present whilst the SPL is ranked 24th, so I guess the standard would be somewhere in between there, if that provides any greater insight. I reckon Millwall would play at a higher standard and would regularly face tougher sides in the Championship than those against whom Sandnes Ulf would compete in the Norwegian league, but I can't say for certain.

For what it's worth, Sandnes Ulf finished bottom of the table last season, although won the relegation play-off, so managed to remain in the top division.

The Bray of Norway

[BonnieShels]

The Bray of Norway

Incidentally ulf is Norwegian for cockroach

[peadar1987]

Incidentally ulf is Norwegian for cockroach

Damn you BonnieShels, you made me go all the way to google translate. A sign that it's time for sleep I think!

[DannyInvincible]

Did Elliot actually play for us at under-19 level then or did 98FM just get that off Wiki?

[tetsujin1979]

according to soccerscene, he played in a friendly against Slovenia at Richmond Park in 2004: http://www.soccerscene.ie/ss19/matchdetails.php?id=94
That's the only record of him playing, and since it was a friendly he might not be eligible

[paul_oshea]

Yeah, id agree too overall but i just think that - strictly compared to an outfield player being in the same scenario - a keeper playing in a lesser division has a better chance of holding his own or being successful when thrown in at a higher level without deficiencies being so apparent. Does that make sense?

The real question I was curious about was around McDermott in the Norwegian premier league and whether people think that level (playing against pretty successful teams as mentioned in the article) would be higher than Milwall? Its pretty close for me...

Ya, I understood what you were getting at, but I don't really know enough about the Norwegian league relative to the lower ends of the 1st division/upper 2nd division or this keeper to make a statement at this time.

[geysir]

Damn you BonnieShels, you made me go all the way to google translate. A sign that it's time for sleep I think!
A perfect hook, line and sinker.

[BonnieShels]

A perfect hook, line and sinker.

Why thank you. I was quite proud of that one myself.

[ArdeeBhoy]

The Norwegian League is mainly pants.

Unless it's Rosenborg, reckon even Millwall or most of the SPL would be a higher standard...

[geysir]

I though youngirish had the exclusive on the usage of 'pants'.

[paul_oshea]

I just thought no one used that word anymore.

[nigel-harps1954]

The Norwegian League is mainly pants.

Unless it's Rosenborg, reckon even Millwall or most of the SPL would be a higher standard...

So, League of Ireland standard then ;)

[ArdeeBhoy]

Possibly, but probably higher than LOI.
;)

[nigel-harps1954]

possibly, but probably higher than loi.
;)

lol. ;)

[ArdeeBhoy]

Lol or LOI?

;)

[nigel-harps1954]

Both mayhaps.