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6yardpunisha
11/01/2009, 7:30 PM
FAI proposal passed by 81 for and 3 against, FOCR'S showed there contempt for the members by not turning up.81 beats 65 anyday of the week, i hope the club follows up as was discussed in the meeting that the 6 people who sought to get legal costs off the club are expelled, lot of members very unhappy with them. Very civil meeting again, thats 2 ive been at and suprise suprise both were boycotted by the FOCR'S.They should all pack their bags and f**k off away from the club,HMS FOCKERVILLE leaves tonight, destination - who gives a toss once its away from our club, not welcome anymore lads and lassies.

rambler14
11/01/2009, 7:40 PM
They can have all the injunctions they want.
The majority have spoken and any judge will laugh them out of the courtroom and call them lazy and irresponsible for not turning up because now they havn't a leg to stand on because there are only about 30 of them so they still would have lost.

the sub
11/01/2009, 8:04 PM
A big well done to all the true cobh supporters from an none cobh person or supporter,
But if all goes well you will see me at a games in st colemans park and will pay at the gate

6yardpunisha
11/01/2009, 8:05 PM
They can have all the injunctions they want.
The majority have spoken and any judge will laugh them out of the courtroom and call them lazy and irresponsible for not turning up because now they havn't a leg to stand on because there are only about 30 of them so they still would have lost.

it wasnt that, it was contempt, for you, for me and for every decent member up there. Crowes Nest 6 should walk now from the club as they have brought the club into disrepute, end of

jamesd
11/01/2009, 9:07 PM
FAI proposal passed by 81 for and 3 against, FOCR'S showed there contempt for the members by not turning up.81 beats 65 anyday of the week, i hope the club follows up as was discussed in the meeting that the 6 people who sought to get legal costs off the club are expelled, lot of members very unhappy with them. Very civil meeting again, thats 2 ive been at and suprise suprise both were boycotted by the FOCR'S.They should all pack their bags and f**k off away from the club,HMS FOCKERVILLE leaves tonight, destination - who gives a toss once its away from our club, not welcome anymore lads and lassies.

Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.

rambler14
11/01/2009, 9:10 PM
"These 83" jamesd are made up of people who voted know NO the first time but realised that they made a mistake and that the FOCR's were full of sh!t.
Like the FOCR's do the decent thing jamesd and fook off will ya?

the sub
11/01/2009, 9:20 PM
Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.

Just one question jamesed were u at the egm

Ram72
11/01/2009, 10:13 PM
Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.
There the same members that showed up on 21/12/08
Isn't democracy great :cool:

rambler14
11/01/2009, 10:27 PM
Isn't democracy great :cool:

Yes it is!
amSQDw3hE40

jebus
11/01/2009, 10:41 PM
Congratulations to those of you looking for a Yes vote.

Word of warning, watch out for the other group saying the vote isn't legitimate in the media because they didn't vote on it

don ramo
11/01/2009, 10:47 PM
Congratulations to those of you looking for a Yes vote.

Word of warning, watch out for the other group saying the vote isn't legitimate in the media because they didn't vote on it

actually is was officially sanctioned, 23 members called it, and also the friends were suppose to put there proposal to us today, that was the first item on the agenda, they never said that in there 96fm statement

rambler14
11/01/2009, 10:47 PM
Word of warning, watch out for the other group saying the vote isn't legitimate in the media because they didn't vote on it

They were notified by letter within the necessary time.

The EGM was so they could make a presentation with their offer


The Membership is 160 give or take. The majority vote needed for the Yes vote to pass was 78. We got 81.


Basically they havn't a leg to stand on. They just couldn't be arsed turning up because they had fook all on the table.
Although.......that won't stop them contacting the media. But like today when they contacted 96fm i'm quite sure they won't tell the public who the EGM was organised for the benefit of...........the Friends of Cobh Ramblers and their proposal, if you didn't already know!

jebus
11/01/2009, 10:50 PM
Not saying they have a leg to stand on, just saying that this could be, and probably will be, spun a different way to the media, ie

This had already been voted down so their members refused to take part in a second vote and that's how the FAI thing was passed

rambler14
11/01/2009, 10:53 PM
Not saying they have a leg to stand on, just saying that this could be, and probably will be, spun a different way to the media, ie

This had already been voted down so there members refused to take part in a second vote and thats how the FAI thing was passed

When you vote you normally like to hear two sides of the story........correct?, well I for one do!
When we voted last time we only heard one side of the story which was the Management commitees and not the FOCR's proposal this was a chance for them to give us their side of the story.
Also this meeting was called by 23 members and nobody from the Management Commitee so the FOCR's can't really complain.

luka
11/01/2009, 11:56 PM
Not saying they have a leg to stand on, just saying that this could be, and probably will be, spun a different way to the media, ie

This had already been voted down so their members refused to take part in a second vote and that's how the FAI thing was passed

Not being rude at all, but please go away! I know you probably mean well but please just let us reflect this evening..................ta!!

6yardpunisha
12/01/2009, 7:47 AM
Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.

check this website out, www.getalifeyoutosser.ie (http://www.getalifeyoutosser.ie)

Redshanks
12/01/2009, 8:26 AM
So Jamesd tells us Barry Walsjh has 83 drinking buddies. ya I suppose that would make sense, he got a 4-1 majority vote of confidence earlier this year didnt he.

Basically, Jamesd and the FOCR's are now saying democracy is all wrong and people shouldnt have the right to change their minds.
96fm unintentionally helped yesterday too by not covering the official club counter statement. The FOCR boycott obviously brought out alot more members to the legitimate meeting.
91 against 31 which was at the FOCR's last secret meeting' I guess we have the biggest club in the town!

rambler14
12/01/2009, 12:43 PM
The FOCR's lose and it's broadcast on NATIONAL radio, none of their local tripe.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0112/cobh_av.html

bellavistaman
12/01/2009, 1:44 PM
The FOCR's lose and it's broadcast on NATIONAL radio, none of their local tripe.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0112/cobh_av.html

here also http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0112/cobh.html
i find it strange that they are now saying its only 250k that were in debt when on the 21st of dec they were shouting close its closer to 1million. They know their supposed 100k is no good to a 500k debt, and are now making a massive u-turn in statements.
Also this bit baffles me: "A spokesman for the Friends of Cobh Ramblers said last night that a number of financial questions remain to be answered by the club ", well i think they've alot of questions to answer also regarding finances, as was highlighted iun the letter last week

rambler14
12/01/2009, 1:49 PM
It was also on the news but no video available yet.

thegafferman
12/01/2009, 1:57 PM
Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.

where did they come from ......this may come as a suprise to you james D but the total membership of cobh ramblers is actually one hundred and fifty MEMBERS and not thirty one.... the time has come for the tail to stop wagging the dog....

Redshanks
12/01/2009, 2:48 PM
I think that was a misprint bella, the echo said their new daily figure is €750,000, down €210,000 on their figure of the 21st December last. - must be a massive drop in inflation!
But dont hold your breath, tomorrows figure might be 3 or 4 million. They will probably meet in a phone booth tonight to decide on that!

jebus
12/01/2009, 3:08 PM
Not being rude at all, but please go away! I know you probably mean well but please just let us reflect this evening..................ta!!

I suggest sitting down with a cup of tea tonight when the Angelus comes on if you need to meditate on this oh wise one :rolleyes:

ramblers
12/01/2009, 3:43 PM
Here is hoping this has now been put to bed and football can move up the priority list!!

rambler14
12/01/2009, 5:04 PM
From the News at One. Look closely and you'll spot me:cool:..................

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/2009/0112/cobh2_av.html

theboywonder
12/01/2009, 7:07 PM
Briliant news lads, happy days....

jamesd
12/01/2009, 10:46 PM
Well I just hope that the FAI will now accept the proposal, otherwise all of our bickering and fighting will have been in vain.

I know ye all think I am against any proposal, but the fact of the matter is, that if people didn't care about the club, they wouldn't have gotten as passionate about it nor would they have come out in numbers to support the proposal.

The reason I have been ranting about the Chairman and Committee is that I am most concerned as to how the money (if we get it) will be handled. This is the last chance saloon and there can be no more excuses for mistakes.

My heart is with the claret and blue, and while we are all entitled to our opinions regardless how we disagree with eachother, it's saving and retaining Cobh Ramblers FC that counts.

I humbly accept the result of the vote and I just hope now for the best outcome possible. And if I have offended anyone in recent times, I apologise.

Redshanks
13/01/2009, 7:28 AM
I accept the spirit of your last line there Jamesd, but I find it incredible that you say you hope the FAI now gives us the money after you and the focr's did and continues through solicitors to do all in their power to stop the FAI from doing just that.

Yesterday you told all of us "Ye" to go and swim. Today Ye has becom "US"

Just how many personalities do you have Jamesd?

If you are truly genuine Jamesd, lets see you write here for the true sake of the club, that your fromer collegues Focr's should cease their bitter and undemocratic activities and encourage them to send just one last letter to the FAI and that is in support of the clubs proposal!
If you cant manage that Jamesd -then you should take a swim as we are not biting!

jamesd
13/01/2009, 9:28 AM
I accept the spirit of your last line there Jamesd, but I find it incredible that you say you hope the FAI now gives us the money after you and the focr's did and continues through solicitors to do all in their power to stop the FAI from doing just that.

Yesterday you told all of us "Ye" to go and swim. Today Ye has becom "US"

Just how many personalities do you have Jamesd?

If you are truly genuine Jamesd, lets see you write here for the true sake of the club, that your fromer collegues Focr's should cease their bitter and undemocratic activities and encourage them to send just one last letter to the FAI and that is in support of the clubs proposal!
If you cant manage that Jamesd -then you should take a swim as we are not biting!

Well Red, as for taking a swim, no thanks, the water is too cold...lol

As I have stated many time, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of Focrs and I am in no way responsible for their actions. All I have ever done is express my view and that is why I have accepted the result of the vote on Sunday as I had accepted the vote in December.

And yes, I do hope that FAI gives the club the money but as stated already, there can be no more excuses for mistakes and everyone involved must be accountable for their actions.

Redshanks
13/01/2009, 11:03 AM
But you never said Jamesd that the Focr's should be responsible for THEIR actions and MISTAKES. You never said if and why you joined the boycott -if you supported the financial controls? I suspect you werent there (joined boycott) because if you were there and if you suported the new controls, you would know that there is no room for further mistakes on the clubs side!

the sub
13/01/2009, 12:24 PM
Is it true the focrs are getting an injunction over last wk vote because it was voted already
How many egms were called by them last year to get rid of the commette and chairman when the vote went against them

Redshanks
13/01/2009, 12:39 PM
Its been hinted that they might, but even they know they havnt a leg (crows nest to stand in) and it will be a very very costly and futile exercise. Or maybe they just have very ironic sense of humours.
The club now has filled all the FAI's criteria for the application, so its now over to that body.
Contrary to what the focr's were trying to spout in the press last week, I think they, just like everyone else in Cobh knows now that if the FAI turns us down, it will be down to them, and Cobh wont be a very nice place to be if you are a focr!

jamesd
13/01/2009, 1:51 PM
Its been hinted that they might, but even they know they havnt a leg (crows nest to stand in) and it will be a very very costly and futile exercise. Or maybe they just have very ironic sense of humours.
The club now has filled all the FAI's criteria for the application, so its now over to that body.
Contrary to what the focr's were trying to spout in the press last week, I think they, just like everyone else in Cobh knows now that if the FAI turns us down, it will be down to them, and Cobh wont be a very nice place to be if you are a focr!


Red, firstly you say that the Club has filled all the criteria for the FAI proposal and yet you choose to blame others when no decision has been made.

Then you say that if turned down, Cobh won't be a very nice place to live in.

Red, that is very threatening talk and really not appropriate at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if you don't agree with them, but no matter how much passion people argue with and no matter how right or wrong they are, making such threats only makes a mockery of all members who have supported to Cobh Ramblers since its foundation.

If been a member of Cobh Ramblers means that I have to be part of some side, then I regret to say I will never support the Club again. I did not join Cobh Ramblers to be receiving threats.

Redshanks
14/01/2009, 7:34 AM
Jamesd -try to wriggle out of this what ever way you like but there are some simple facts here that even you cant deny.

Yes the club under normal circumstances has met all the criteria But
1. The Focr's very delibrately made this and their war against the Chairman a very public matter. (not good for deal -solicitors to FAI etc)
2. Although it took some time to realise, the vast majority of the members, as expressed last sunday, now know they had been hoodwinked about a so-called alternative plan.
3.. They now feel they were duped and that the Focr plan all along was to block the clubs FAI licence, undermine the management committee and to take control themselves.
4. All the above has naturally translated into anger by the membership and if the FAI now rejects our proposal, yes the members already knows who to blame.
5. The fact that the last line in last weeks focr statement said that Barry Walsh would be to blame if there was no League of Ireland Lincence in Cobh this year, shows how much that body is preparing to cover their behinds.

So Jamesd, the fact that all you can come up with now by way of an explaination for the Focr's actions and what you have written here recently is a screech that you are being threatened, leaves me to believe that you are a bigger **** than I thought.

You again yesterday attempted to apologise, change direction and move on. But as soon as you were asked a few hard questions, you reverted back to form again, FOCR Form!

bellavistaman
14/01/2009, 11:34 AM
Now where did all these 83 people appear from??? Its so amazing that the most of the so called supporters are mere drinking buddies of the Chairman.

Well now ye can all go and swim. They have given the Chairman his opportunity to further sell out the club and all of ye with it.

83 drinking buddies, see that is the problem with the FOCRs, the 30 of YE think ye own the club, it was ours and we want it back, bull****,the rest of us are treated with this disrespect, your saying the 81 people who voted for the FAI proposal are Barrys drinking buddies, thtas why ye were overwhelmingly voted against, its this exclusivity(thanks neighbour:D) and disrespect by naming yourselves as Friends leaving the rest of the cobh and the country thinkning that the rest of us are enemies, this was your biggest downfall selecting the group who knows if ye had askes all members did they want in ye might have raised €700,000. Anyway im moving on now because now is the time to push together and drive the club on as best we can and do everything to make the club a successful club in 3-4 years time. Next year we have to try get more members, make sure the financial controls as adhered to and we get as much money in as possible unfortunatly the football is the least of our worries although a win over waterford and limerick is vital!!!


Is it true the focrs are getting an injunction over last wk vote because it was voted already
How many egms were called by them last year to get rid of the commette and chairman when the vote went against them

Were waiting on an announcement which we hear is due out today, prob in the locla newsletter.

6yardpunisha
14/01/2009, 12:13 PM
Red, firstly you say that the Club has filled all the criteria for the FAI proposal and yet you choose to blame others when no decision has been made.

Then you say that if turned down, Cobh won't be a very nice place to live in.

Red, that is very threatening talk and really not appropriate at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if you don't agree with them, but no matter how much passion people argue with and no matter how right or wrong they are, making such threats only makes a mockery of all members who have supported to Cobh Ramblers since its foundation.

If been a member of Cobh Ramblers means that I have to be part of some side, then I regret to say I will never support the Club again. I did not join Cobh Ramblers to be receiving threats.

GROW UP:eek:

Redshanks
14/01/2009, 1:28 PM
I too was told to expect another proclamation in the great Island news today.

God only knows what they will come up with this time - probably - "81 dictators must go"!

6yardpunisha
14/01/2009, 7:42 PM
I too was told to expect another proclamation in the great Island news today.

God only knows what they will come up with this time - probably - "81 dictators must go"!

it never materialised,maybe they have gone away,far far away.Club is all about numbers if you think about it.

St Colmans Park 3
42 people who dont understand controls
Crowes Nest 6
31 FOCR's(id say you could knock a few off this one though)
83 drinking buddies of the chairman
and finally
1 JamesD(thank god:D)

don ramo
14/01/2009, 11:08 PM
it never materialised,maybe they have gone away,far far away.Club is all about numbers if you think about it.

St Colmans Park 3
42 people who dont understand controls
Crowes Nest 6
31 FOCR's(id say you could knock a few off this one though)
83 drinking buddies of the chairman
and finally
1 JamesD(thank god:D)

you forgot the one dictator:D:o

Redshanks
15/01/2009, 7:12 AM
And the 500k from 10 man FAI Board!

luka
15/01/2009, 8:19 AM
St Colmans Park 3
42 people who dont understand controls
Crowes Nest 6
31 FOCR's(id say you could knock a few off this one though)
83 drinking buddies of the chairman, and finally
1 JamesD(thank god)
500k from 10 man FAI Board!
1 Dictator
4 Committee Members
3 EGM's
6 Names on the list
0 Manager
0 Players

6yardpunisha
15/01/2009, 9:57 AM
St Colmans Park 3
42 people who dont understand controls
Crowes Nest 6
31 FOCR's(id say you could knock a few off this one though)
83 drinking buddies of the chairman, and finally
1 JamesD(thank god)
500k from 10 man FAI Board!
1 Dictator
4 Committee Members
3 EGM's
6 Names on the list
0 Manager
0 Players

Luka, is this turning into a dumbass style thread:D:D:D