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tetsujin1979
19/12/2008, 12:02 AM
set to include lyrics from The Men Behind The Wire in her new album: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/7775976.stm

soccerc
19/12/2008, 1:40 AM
set to include lyrics from The Men Behind The Wire in her new album: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/7775976.stm

She does have direct Irish roots on both her fraternal and maternal sides, not that it matters!

noby
19/12/2008, 7:17 AM
Paternal, surely.

stann
19/12/2008, 7:59 AM
Depends what part of Ireland they're from.

:o
I'll get me coat.

bennocelt
19/12/2008, 8:04 AM
so what - whats the problem?

tetsujin1979
19/12/2008, 9:29 AM
She does have direct Irish roots on both her fraternal and maternal sides, not that it matters!
From Limerick I believe

so what - whats the problem?
a prominent artist is using lyrics that glorify or romanticise terrorists, and you don't see the problem with that??

stann
19/12/2008, 10:51 AM
a prominent artist is using lyrics that glorify or romanticise terrorists, and you don't see the problem with that??

Actually, that's not strictly true. The song was originally written and sung about the people that were interned without trial, as far as I'm aware anyway.
What happened to the lyrics afterwards is another thing.
I think Dido has said the lines are in because it's a song her father sang to her as a child?

Monkfish
19/12/2008, 12:27 PM
a prominent artist is using lyrics that glorify or romanticise terrorists, and you don't see the problem with that??

Dont buy it then, simple as.

bennocelt
19/12/2008, 1:10 PM
From Limerick I believe

a prominent artist is using lyrics that glorify or romanticise terrorists, and you don't see the problem with that??

ah jesus Tets, its a good song, and another mans terrorists is another mans......blah blah blah

(jesus its a wonder we are still not part of the UK:rolleyes:)

noby
19/12/2008, 1:13 PM
Plus, prominent? Not with about six years, I'd say.

Neish
20/12/2008, 9:45 PM
Prehaps I'm wrong but sounds to me like another 2nd gen Irish(or plastic paddy) signing about something she has very little idea about

beautifulrock
21/12/2008, 12:12 AM
Prehaps I'm wrong but sounds to me like another 2nd gen Irish(or plastic paddy) signing about something she has very little idea about

Yes it is quite possible you are wrong...again

SkStu
21/12/2008, 3:34 AM
She does have direct Irish roots on both her fraternal and maternal sides, not that it matters!

tipperary, i suppose - her dad is TD, Des O'Malley's uncle.

She is even hotter in the flesh than on tv/print.

edit - dont really know why i quoted you soccerc... anyway, just found this

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/theticket/2008/1114/1226408595388.html

Neish
21/12/2008, 11:23 AM
Yes it is quite possible you are wrong...again

Well her father was in the British army and she is singing a song glorifying people who took pride in killing British soliders

brendy_éire
21/12/2008, 1:36 PM
Well her father was in the British army and she is singing a song glorifying people who took pride in killing British soliders

The song is about internment, ie. those not convicted of a crime. You're making a presumation of guilt about all internees.

beautifulrock
21/12/2008, 2:23 PM
Well her father was in the British army and she is singing a song glorifying people who took pride in killing British soliders

hmm though her father was a publisher??

Neish
22/12/2008, 6:47 PM
The song is about internment, ie. those not convicted of a crime. You're making a presumation of guilt about all internees.

Not saying they were all guilty , ps it was her grandfather not father the was in the army

Newryrep
24/12/2008, 12:44 PM
Not saying they were all guilty , ps it was her grandfather not father the was in the army

Guilty of what exactly ? having an Irish name? having red hair ?,listening to RTE , walking in the cracks in the pavement ?

Internment was widely recognised as a diaster in nationalist/British relations due to a the **** poor intelligence which was years out of date and the fact that practically no loyalists were lifted.

Closed Account 2
09/01/2009, 1:08 AM
I think the song is being taken out of context. The Men Behind the Wire was a protest song against internment, which most governments now recognise as a failure in terms of policy.

What next, banning "Flower of Scotland" because it resonates anti imperalistic attitudes from a battle almost 800 years ago, banning "Father and Son" because it visualises the October Revolution ?? At this rate we'll just be left with Leonard Cohen CDs....


And yes, she is a 10/10

John83
09/01/2009, 8:57 PM
...What next, banning "Flower of Scotland" because it resonates anti imperalistic attitudes from a battle almost 800 years ago, banning "Father and Son" because it visualises the October Revolution ?? At this rate we'll just be left with Leonard Cohen CDs....
I don't know about that. What about The Partisan?

OneRedArmy
09/01/2009, 9:42 PM
Not saying they were all guilty , I think you'll find that NOBODY who was interned was guilty.

By definition internees couldn't be "guilty" of anything, as the key point of internment is that they weren't charged with a crime and weren't given due process or habeas corpus.