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Newryrep
20/11/2008, 3:00 PM
Can I also add

Ditch

1. The drummers - soul destroying at times (I know they mean well but)
2. Go West after a goal is scored - god forbid we could just hear the fans cheering
3. 500 miles - steaming pile of scottish ****e
4. Previous ban on tricolours around the hoarding although I didnt see any polish flags banners removed
5. That Trappatoni song in conjuction with The Scum/2FM probably not a bad effort but I want nothing to do with it due to The Scum

Quite Liked

1. Irish band in front of Hill 16 before game
2. Karl Spain compering 'penalty' compotition

L37Ultra
20/11/2008, 3:01 PM
best away fans maybe, but home fans are shocking...we need a singing section, YBIG are currently starting a campaign for one!

Agreed, there needs to be a section like that in the new Landsdowne Road for sure.

Went up to Cyprus game the last time and there were people giving out to others for singing and standing up in front of them. :o

paul_oshea
20/11/2008, 3:09 PM
lads get on that facebook thing and pass it round to mates, then when there are decent numbers it can be justified to FAI, until then they wont take it seriouslly. And justifiable means about 1000 members.

geysir
20/11/2008, 3:10 PM
Back in the day, atmosphere at internationals had nothing to do with flares or yewts jumping up and down during a game.
A crowd watched a game and roared (all sorts of things).

OneRedArmy
20/11/2008, 4:04 PM
Back in the day, atmosphere at internationals had nothing to do with flares or yewts jumping up and down during a game.
A crowd watched a game and roared (all sorts of things).Standing terraces though made the real difference.

Seats are pants.

jbyrne
20/11/2008, 4:12 PM
And why are you quoting that as more reliable than an Irish persons estimate?

Do Polish people have an inate ability to count large crowds better?

to be honest i couldnt care less how many were there. all i said was that a polish official said last night that there were 15 - 20,000 of them there. seeing as they sold tickets to their fans, hired buses from all over the country and liased with the Gardai on stewarding arrangements for their fans id say they had a fair idea of how many were there to support their team.

what shall we move onto next.... lets see, lets argue over how many were there from tuam.... anyone hazard a guess??

pineapple stu
20/11/2008, 4:15 PM
Wouldn't want to guess till I heard what the Tuam massiv have to say, to be honest. I'd take their figure as gospel.

stiffler
20/11/2008, 4:44 PM
Can I also add

Ditch

1. The drummers - soul destroying at times (I know they mean well but)
2. Go West after a goal is scored - god forbid we could just hear the fans cheering
3. 500 miles - steaming pile of scottish ****e
4. Previous ban on tricolours around the hoarding although I didnt see any polish flags banners removed
5. That Trappatoni song in conjuction with The Scum/2FM probably not a bad effort but I want nothing to do with it due to The Scum

Quite Liked

1. Irish band in front of Hill 16 before game
2. Karl Spain compering 'penalty' compotition



Good post.

galwayhoop
20/11/2008, 4:46 PM
Would they all leave ten minutes early like our "wonderful" support. Fair enough about the polish fans but even for qualifying games in croker the atmosphere is more like a morgue.

like our support left wembley, paris and stuttgart early is it???:rolleyes:

point is our home support is pure and utter sh1te, everyone agrees. there are far too many event junkies/ corporate freebies and plain old t0ssers who get tickets.

however on away trips the crowds are far more vocal, not liable to nip out for a burger in the middle of the game and most certainly don't go home early to beat the traffic.

anyway it is the same in most places where the home support is far more muted than the boisterous travelling support. It just happens that the problems we have had for a long time for home Ireland matches have only got much worse in the big stadium

mypost
20/11/2008, 8:05 PM
Jaysus, we really fly off the handle, don't we?? :rolleyes:

The away support drum up an atmosphere for one game, and all of a sudden, our fans are all sorts. If we were winning the game for 90 minutes like the Poles were, that would soon shut them up.

How many other friendlies had 30-40k home fans, some travelling a 200-mile round trip last night?

The reason we go to home games is to win, not to sing. When we're away, the emphasis is more on the trip than the game.

Some announcement in Polish, when they had a free kick on the edge of the area near the end, which led to them all cheering. Bloke beside me thought it was the announcement that "their dole payments are going up" :D

fergalr
20/11/2008, 8:15 PM
Our support is awful and its cringeworthy that we are now down to just one "song" (Ireland clap clap clap).

If there is one reason why our support is so crap its because most only go to 2 or 3 games a year and don't really have a clue about how to behave at a live match.

fergalr
20/11/2008, 8:16 PM
Oh and please for the love of god will somebody get rid of those drummers.

SuperDub
20/11/2008, 9:11 PM
Well done to the poles for creating a half decent atmosphere. Many people on here have in the past blamed croker for been to big etc to create an atmosphere,Well the poles proved last night with a little enthusiasm what can be acheived.

It does'nt matter whetter its landsdowne or croker we are a useless lot for getting behind the team.

francesco_1
20/11/2008, 9:50 PM
It was a good idea of the fai to host poland as they knew they would sell lots of tickets,do u think the boh's could play a Roma people selection since they are the gypsies.

L37Ultra
20/11/2008, 11:33 PM
lads get on that facebook thing and pass it round to mates, then when there are decent numbers it can be justified to FAI, until then they wont take it seriouslly. And justifiable means about 1000 members.


Whats the link to that page, Paul?

Nice to see people are doing something about it

Newryrep
21/11/2008, 8:14 AM
Jaysus, we really fly off the handle, don't we?? :rolleyes:

The away support drum up an atmosphere for one game, and all of a sudden, our fans are all sorts. If we were winning the game for 90 minutes like the Poles were, that would soon shut them up.

How many other friendlies had 30-40k home fans, some travelling a 200-mile round trip last night?

The reason we go to home games is to win, not to sing. When we're away, the emphasis is more on the trip than the game.

Some announcement in Polish, when they had a free kick on the edge of the area near the end, which led to them all cheering. Bloke beside me thought it was the announcement that "their dole payments are going up" :D


Mypost

Have you read this thread at all ?

Kinda reminds me of the the Dorothy Parker quote when she was advised that Calvin Coolidge US President had just died

'how can they tell'

jbyrne
21/11/2008, 8:29 AM
Oh and please for the love of god will somebody get rid of those drummers.

here here. they end up just doing drum rolls that are no relevance at all to any chants or songs

Poor Student
21/11/2008, 8:48 AM
and btw, they do sing non-stop but there's plenty of them that with their backs to the match for most of the game just to direct the singing. It's a much different culture.

I think that's worth noting as we engage in another round of self loathing. Part of the ultra culture that we so laud and worship is people concentrating very little on the game itself or indeed staying with their back to the match for the majority of its duration.

paul_oshea
21/11/2008, 11:11 AM
Whats the link to that page, Paul?

Nice to see people are doing something about it

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53641686192&ref=mf

paul_oshea
21/11/2008, 11:34 AM
I think that's worth noting as we engage in another round of self loathing. Part of the ultra culture that we so laud and worship is people concentrating very little on the game itself or indeed staying with their back to the match for the majority of its duration.

Well said PS, its a paradox but a true one. For them its almost like a family, an organisation to be part of, rather than something to identify with as part of your heritage and your identity. If you REALLY are a football fan and patriotic about your country then you concentrate on the football in front of you.

kev mcq
21/11/2008, 12:35 PM
How were the poles allowed to take so many flares into the ground, and to let them off. Security at these matches is a joke, you could bring anything in with you. I think flares are great but if i went into Croke Park and started letting off flares I'd be fcuked out by the guards. Were the polish fans?

Sligo Hornet
21/11/2008, 1:36 PM
How were the poles allowed to take so many flares into the ground, and to let them off. Security at these matches is a joke, you could bring anything in with you. I think flares are great but if i went into Croke Park and started letting off flares I'd be fcuked out by the guards. Were the polish fans?

"Excuse me lads, have you got flares in your pockets, or are just pleased to be in Croke Park?"


http://i35.tinypic.com/11kfptj.jpg

kev mcq
21/11/2008, 2:21 PM
:rolleyes:

lopez
21/11/2008, 9:39 PM
"Excuse me lads, have you got flares in your pockets, or are just pleased to be in Croke Park?"


http://i35.tinypic.com/11kfptj.jpg

These are the coooooolest guys I've ever seen. Names and addresses are listed on the released BNP membership list.

kingdomkerry
22/11/2008, 10:59 PM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53641686192&ref=mf

Just signed up and added all sent all my friends an invitation to join.

There could be literly thousands of names within weeks. (ripple effect)

tetsujin1979
23/11/2008, 1:20 AM
Has any facebook pressure group ever made a difference? I mean outside of things like getting "is" changed from being part of your status to an option that you can remove
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I put them on the same level as online petitions

paul_oshea
25/11/2008, 8:59 AM
tets you could be right, but if it shows the FAI that there are this many people involved who want to have a singing section then they might just decide to do it.

Going a step further, the people signed up could be used by the FAI to cross reference block bookers and therefore align them all in the one section. A bit of work in fairness but well worth it.

At the end of the day no harm in trying anyway.