Booing

[fergalr]

Do I take it that someone has already been on to UEFA to protest against the racist and sectarian booing last night?

[Gary]

Why because the Irish Man U fans booed all the Rangers team becasue they play for Rangers?

I also noted the commenatry on Sky mentioned something about Keane being irish? That a new one on me.

[Neil]

I can understand the Rangers fans booing John O'Shea for being Irish but why were they booing Roy Keane?????

[Macy]

You guys, you're all so funny.....

W@nkers.



and not for the opinion on Keane, just for attempting to start this topic yet again

[S.E.P.1990]

It would be a bit harder for UEFA because it was a club match and the Rangers fans were booing all the Utd players (though they reserved their loudest boos for Keane, O'Shea and Ferdinand).

[pete]

Originally posted by S.E.P.1990
It would be a bit harder for UEFA because it was a club match and the Rangers fans were booing all the Utd players (though they reserved their loudest boos for Keane, O'Shea and Ferdinand).

Next we'll have those ok2boo muppets giving low boos to all opposing players & bigger ones for the Glasgow Rangers players...

:eek:

[fergalr]

Originally posted by S.E.P.1990
It would be a bit harder for UEFA because it was a club match and the Rangers fans were booing all the Utd players (though they reserved their loudest boos for Keane, O'Shea and Ferdinand).

Why is it harder for UEFA? It was a UEFA Champions League fixture. The worst of the booing was because of the nationality and creed of certain players. Seems like racism and sectarianism to me.

Where have all the Irish Times letter writers disappeared to?

[S.E.P.1990]

Seems like racism and sectarianism to me.

The difficulty is this:

at Ireland matches players from Georgia, Denmark etc are obviously booed for being Rangers players. At the Rangers game its not as obvious because all the team were booed.

I dont think ur racist remark (which i assume covers Rio's booing) is wide of the mark, i think it is more to do with recent non-drug testing activities!

[fergalr]

Originally posted by Conor74
..... who cares.
I care. We should all care.

Racism and sectarianism should be challenged wherever it occurs. It doesn't matter whether it happens in Slovakia, Istanbul, the Stadio Olympico in Rome, or in Ibrox.

We are all Europeans now - insular attitudes should be a thing of the past.

[fergalr]

Originally posted by S.E.P.1990
Seems like racism and sectarianism to me.

The difficulty is this:

at Ireland matches players from Georgia, Denmark etc are obviously booed for being Rangers players. At the Rangers game its not as obvious because all the team were booed.

I agree with the first statement. Not so sure about your second - seemed to me like some Man U players were being singled out because of their nationality/religion.



I dont think ur racist remark (which i assume covers Rio's booing) is wide of the mark, i think it is more to do with recent non-drug testing activities!
I hope thats just clumsy phrasing and that you are not accusing me of making a racist remark.

In any case - no I was not making any reference to Rio. The sectariam and racist chants were being directed, in particular, at a certain other Man U player.

[fergalr]

Originally posted by Conor74
Of course it should be challenged, but on a football board?
This is a board about Irish football, club or country.
With respect, I carefully chose this forum for the post, i.e. "General Football".


If, on the other hand, you are just one of those Celtic clowns who think it's ok2boo, then you really shouldn't use issues like racism to score cheap points on a football site.
So, you'd like to ban people who support a particular football team from posting on certain topics? Very peculiar.

By the way (and not that it matters), I am not a Celtic supporter.

[pete]

Originally posted by Conor74
Who gives a damn about what Rangers fans do and don't do? I couldn't care less about Rangers fans booing, or Celtic fans for that matter at some club game. Go on the Rangers board if you want to complain, who cares.


Exactly.


Originally posted by Conor74
...if the government here put up taxes 20%, you'd wet your pants and complain.

Some inside info on the upcoming budget? :(

[fergalr]

Originally posted by Conor74

Becaue it sure looks to me like you're just another Celtic fan drawing the wrong conclusions.
My posts are pretty brief so how come you seem to have missed me saying that I am not a Celtic fan?

There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[Beavis]

Why was Rio Ferdinand particularly subject to abuse on Wednesday?I don't think it was racism cos there was no problem when Fortune or Silvestre was on the ball.

Probably something sad along the lines of Jaap Stam (for leaving Man Yoo?)or Luis Figo (for,well being a good player) being booed at Lansdowne:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Lionel Hutz]

This thread pretty much sums up these forums for me to be honest!

No wonder the general public at large have no interest in League of Ireland football, who in their right mind would seriously want to be on the same terraces as the mob that post here (there are some exceptions of course)

Very sad but not unexpected Im afraid!
:(

[Lionel Hutz]

Originally posted by Conor74
Yeah, they flock to GAA matches for the witty urbane sophisticated terrace talk about the burning issues of the day.

I reckon there'll be a big crowd at Arsenal Charlton today - could everyone be looking forward to the well known cockney love of discussing quantum physics and socio-political theory?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You, like the rest of the mob that posted on this thread are a disgrace!

If even a small portion of those that booed on wednesday night did so on secterian or racist grounds then it should have been condemned without reservation on this thread!

There can be no excuses for secterianism or racism in sports, on this thread people have made excuses.....................

[A face]

Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
If even a small portion of those that booed on wednesday night did so on secterian or racist grounds then it should have been condemned without reservation on this thread!

There can be no excuses for secterianism or racism in sports, on this thread people have made excuses.....................

I can believe you posted something i agree with. This, i find quite remarkable as you normally come out with complete and utter twaddle altogether. Maybe there is hope for you yet.



Although ........ :rolleyes:

[Lionel Hutz]

Originally posted by Conor74
It must be vary hard to be such a noble campaigner against all the injustices in the world and still get time to follow Celtic and post trivia on a football board.

Is it cold up there on the high moral ground? Sorry, silly question, you must rush back to the Amnesty board I know...

That I could have as pure a soul as the average Celtic fan. No, not the ones making aeroplane gestures after September 11th, nor the ones who welcomed Mark Walkers with gorilla suits and bananas (which some Celtic fans incredibly still deny happened, while others who were at the game both remember and condemn it), but the other ones...

You really are doing yourself no favours on this thread (btw your not the only one by any means)

If you ever bothered to read my posts on this forum you will note that I have never claimed that Celtic do not have a mob of clowns that follow them I have simply stated that you should not tar us all with the same brush!

Unfortunately yet again you still refuse to condemn outright, the behavour of a minority at last wednesday nights game in ibrox instead choosing to launch another attack on Celtic fans!

In any future threads regarding the behavoir of Celtic fans by anyone who posted on this thread I shall simply post a link to this thread and tell whoever it is to shut the **** up.

[dahamsta]

Conor, attack the post, not the poster. That goes for all of you. Personal attacks just show you all up as weak debaters.

adam

[Duncan Gardner]

Adam/Vet: well said.

Conor: er, he did say "that goes for all of you"...

I'll bet the new wife of the football reporter on Longford's newspaper wasn't too popular yesterday. She took him off on honeymoon to Rome, missing the Cup Final :)

[S.E.P.1990]

I hope thats just clumsy phrasing and that you are not accusing me of making a racist remark.

feargal - no not that u made a remark that was racist. i was referring to the context in which u used the word racist.

[dahamsta]

Originally posted by Conor74
So my post was a personal attack, but this was not... Hmmmmmmm, can't quite figure that one out Adam.
Originally posted by Vetinari
That goes for all of you.Reading the posts you're replying to is a big help too Conor. I've got a lot on today, so if you're going to Fight Teh Poweh any more today, do try to get to it before I have to pop out.

adam

[Colm]

Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
No wonder the general public at large have no interest in League of Ireland football, who in their right mind would seriously want to be on the same terraces as the mob that post here (there are some exceptions of course)


I have no intention of getting involved in this debate but I do want to say one thing.
That comment backs up the theory that it is idiots like you who keep our great league down. You have no idea what it is to be a football fan, you are merely a minor percentage on the ratings sheet on some British tv executives desk.

[fergalr]

Originally posted by Conor74
BTW, getting back to the original point, what response did you get from UEFA anyway? Presumably, as it bothers you so much, you will be letting us know of your progress with UEFA and, if unsatisfactory, you will be "taking the matter further", as they say.
For the second time in this thread you appear to be misreading what I post. Take a deep breath, concentrate, and then have another go....

[fergalr]

So after 35 (now 36) posts on this issue, I see nobody stepping forward to complain to UEFA (or our national newspaper "of record").

I have to conclude that there are some who get upset by booing at football matches, except when its directed at Irish players.

Happy Hallow'een!

[tiktok]

Originally posted by fergalr
So after 35 (now 36) posts on this issue, I see nobody stepping forward to complain to UEFA (or our national newspaper "of record").

So why don't you 'step forward' yourself besides waiting for someone else to do it for you?:rolleyes:

[nlgbbbblth]

Originally posted by fergalr
So after 35 (now 36) posts on this issue, I see nobody stepping forward to complain to UEFA (or our national newspaper "of record").

I have to conclude that there are some who get upset by booing at football matches, except when its directed at Irish players.

Happy Hallow'een!

and I have to conclude that you probably think the booing in Landsdowne of Rangers/ex players is "harmless" but you have a bee in your bonnet about what happened at Ibrox.

if you look at the Irish Times letters page you will note that the people who wrote in some months ago saying that it was "ok to boo" Rangers players in Lansdowne and that it was neither "sectarian" or "racist" are the same people who are complaining about the treatment of Keane/O'Shea at Ibrox and wondering why others aren't complaining

[fergalr]

Originally posted by nlgbbbblth

if you look at the Irish Times letters page you will note that the people who wrote in some months ago saying that it was "ok to boo" Rangers players in Lansdowne and that it was neither "sectarian" or "racist" are the same people who are complaining about the treatment of Keane/O'Shea at Ibrox and wondering why others aren't complaining

My point is that the people who gave out about the booing at Landsdowne were totally silent on what happened at Ibrox. Therein lies the hypocrisy.

[tiktok]

Originally posted by fergalr
My point is that the people who gave out about the booing at Landsdowne were totally silent on what happened at Ibrox. Therein lies the hypocrisy.

and it's been pointed out in return that the booing during the 'battle of britain' pales in comparison to what goes on in other european countries during CL games, which you have no knowledge of.

all the arguments that were applied by the ok2boo lobby about the booing in landsdowne (they play for rivals we're in competition with etc.) can be applied here without having your tongue wedged firmly in your cheek.

Rio was booed because he's been in the papers over a missed drugs test, roy keane because he is a celtic fan who wants to finish his career at parkhead, plotting the downfall of rangers (not simply because he was irish). O'shea was briefly booed by the same breed of idiot who booed averladze and lovenkrands, the last case is genuinely disturbing.

but the actions of those rangers fans bothers the majority of posters here much less than when those same actions were carried out by ourselves, Irish supporters who have long built a good reputation wherever we travel.

a lack of interest in the SPL isn't hypocrisy, chastising us on our inaction, while doing nothing yourself might just be.

[fergalr]

Originally posted by tiktok
and it's been pointed out in return that the booing during the 'battle of britain' pales in comparison to what goes on in other european countries during CL games, which you have no knowledge of.
Ehm... as it was me who brought up what happens in other european games, how can you say its something I have no knowledge of!



Rio was booed because he's been in the papers over a missed drugs test, roy keane because he is a celtic fan who wants to finish his career at parkhead, plotting the downfall of rangers (not simply because he was irish). O'shea was briefly booed by the same breed of idiot who booed averladze and lovenkrands, the last case is genuinely disturbing.
I'm impressed by your ability to get inside the mindset of your average Rangers fan. Pity you don't know seem to know your fellow Irish supporters to the same degree.



a lack of interest in the SPL isn't hypocrisy, chastising us on our inaction, while doing nothing yourself might just be.
Again, reading the original posts often helps. My charge of hypocrisy is reserved to those who are upset by what happens to Averladze and Lovenkrands but don't seem bothered when O'Shea and Keane suffer worse treatment.

[tiktok]

Originally posted by fergalr
Ehm... as it was me who brought up what happens in other european games, how can you say its something I have no knowledge of!

Ehm... actually it was Conor


Originally posted by fergalr
Pity you don't know seem to know your fellow Irish supporters to the same degree.

Ehm... what the fcuk are you on about there????


Originally posted by fergalr
.....when O'Shea and Keane suffer worse treatment.

Ehm... how is the Rangers fans booing "worse treatment".
Because those on the receiving end are Irish ??!!! Christ, you're definitely not hypocritical:rolleyes:

[Lionel Hutz]

Originally posted by Colm
I have no intention of getting involved in this debate but I do want to say one thing.
That comment backs up the theory that it is idiots like you who keep our great league down. You have no idea what it is to be a football fan, you are merely a minor percentage on the ratings sheet on some British tv executives desk.

The reason, as I stated before why I would have nothing to do with a LOI club has nothing to do with the quality of football on show and everything to do with the narrow minded mob that attend games and indeed post here!
I believe that factor for alot of people probably has more to do with the lack of enthusiams for the LOI among the general public rather than any marketing by foreign leagues could ever achieve.
The problem with the LOI isnt me its you!

Hypocrits the lot of ye!

[Schumi]

Originally posted by Conor74
Lionel one of a very rare breed. He goes to all these matches you see, but only likes clubs where fans talk about quantum physics. So far, only Watford and Berwick fans, both famous for their discourses on the speed of nuclear particles in a vacuum, match Lionel's expectations. He should come to UCD so! :D

[noby]

Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
The reason, as I stated before why I would have nothing to do with a LOI club has nothing to do with the quality of football on show and everything to do with the narrow minded mob that attend games and indeed post here!
I believe that factor for alot of people probably has more to do with the lack of enthusiams for the LOI among the general public rather than any marketing by foreign leagues could ever achieve.



that, in my experience, is a load of b*llox.
any time I've asked someone why they don't attend LOI football, I'm told it's because it's ****e third rate football.
no one ever said it's because of narrow minded mobs.

[lopez]

Originally posted by noby
that, in my experience, is a load of b*llox.
any time I've asked someone why they don't attend LOI football, I'm told it's because it's ****e third rate football.
no one ever said it's because of narrow minded mobs.

I've been to (relatively few) LoI/EL matches in Ireland and the odd EL club game abroad. I've even seen Derry a couple of times - where that Chirpy, Chirpy, Cheep, Cheep number, sung to the words 'Woke up one morning and found the barracks had gone' was the closest anyone got to republican politics - and I've never seen the sort of religious bigotry I witnessed at the few Celtic matches I saw in the mid eighties. I think you've got a point noby.;)

[tiktok]

Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
...I would have nothing to do with a LOI club has nothing to do with the quality of football on show and everything to do with the narrow minded mob that attend games and indeed post here....

Lionel gets his bucket of tar and huge brush out for another idiotic sweeping generalisation:rolleyes: