Richie Foran for Ireland?

[Greenbod]

I haven't seen Foran play in a long time. The Indo today is reporting that Harry Redknapp is interested in bringing him to Portsmouth. Is he good enough to make it in the English Premiership, and if so should he be considered for an international call up?

[Plastic Paddy]

Foran plays for a team well-adrift at the bottom of the Nationwide League, three tiers below the Premiership. I'd say there are plenty in the queue well ahead of him even if he does move to Portsmouth. Even in Foran's own division, players like Lee Trundle at Swansea (the leading scorer IIRC) have been recently talking up their eligibility.

I think it's right that we use the time between now and the next set of qualifiers to consider all the options, but these options do need to be realistic ones. Trundle may, just may, fall into that category (I'm not sure of his age though), but I fear Foran never will.

:D PP

[Greenbod]

I know Foran is currently playing for a ****e team, but I just find it interesting, if true, that Redknapp is after him. Redknapp is a pretty good judge of players. He obviously has seen something that I never noticed when I used to watch Foran. Has anybody seen him play recently?

[ger121]

I think he would do well for Portsmouth given time. Acording to the Indo, he is the fastest player over 30 yards in the 3 divisions outside the Premiership. As for Ireland, the more players we have playing at a higher level the better, so he should be considered along with any of the other names that have been mentioned in recent months.

[Plastic Paddy]

That being the case, the other thing he'd definitely need to address is his temperament. Whilst I can't quote statistics, I do know that Foran has attracted more than his fair share of cautions and sendings-off whilst at Carlisle, and as such has earned a reputation among the other clubs in that division that precedes him. He'll have to sort it out if he's to progress any higher in the game.

:D PP

[NigeSausagepump]

I saw something on Lee Trundle on Sky Sports last week.

He looks overweight to me and is around 26/27. It showed some of his tricks and while there's no doubt he has good ball control, he'd never get the space to flick the ball over his head and juggle it in a Premiership game, let alone an international.

Personally, I wouldn't touch him unless he moved up to Div 1 at the very least. Otherwise, we'd risk becoming another Northern Ireland.

[pete]

Moving to Portsmouth would not guarantee Foran a first team place so presumably he'd be a squad or reserve player for a while.

Better to be playing 1st or even 2nd division english football than Premiership reserve.

Be surprised if Foran made the move as he hasn't exactly set the 3rd division alight although obviously he with a crap team.

[fergalr]

This is a wind-up, right?

[John83]

Originally posted by fergalr
This is a wind-up, right?
Hopefully. Didn't Foran retire from international football after a nasty bust-up with the U21s a few years back?

[pete]

Originally posted by John83
Hopefully. Didn't Foran retire from international football after a nasty bust-up with the U21s a few years back?

I think Don Given retired Foran.

[John83]

Originally posted by pete
I think Don Given retired Foran.
:D A small, but relevant distinction. Foran is a little trouble-making gob****e who gets sent off with the frequency of an Alan Smith or a Patrick Vieira. I'm not going to hold my breath for him anyway.

[Ozymandias]

Ben Burgess is better than Foran or Trundle..he is also only 22 and Irish..he was at blackburn and everywhere he has been he has scored goals ..with the exception of stocport where he was injured..Benny B is a better prospect than either of them...Trundle is a bit of a donkey...deffo looks overweight

[fonzi]

a big NO on that one. he playes with carlile enough said. thers better at home any day.

[ger121]

The original idea of this thread was that Foran might be going to Portsmouth in January. If he did and was playing well for them then of course he should be considered for Ireland. If he stays at Carlisle then we won't have to worry coz there will be no chance of him playing for Ireland.

[John83]

Originally posted by Conor74
Ummm, dunno if that comparison bears scrutiny, both Smith and Vieira have full international caps, the latter is an automatic selection.

If you can name anyone from the English Third Division who gets sent off with the frequency of Richie Foran, other than Richie Foran, go right ahead and make that comparison.

Anyone else think that maybe they made a mistake. Maybe Pompey are looking for Forlan? ;)

[Ozymandias]

Foran would be a risk..Forlan would be downright ridiculous and a desire to go down

[John83]

Originally posted by Ozymandias
Foran would be a risk..Forlan would be downright ridiculous and a desire to go down

Like Richie "You've only got ten men" Foran would be better than Diego "You've only got ten goals" Forlan.:mad:

:p

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.highland-news.co.uk/News/Inverness-Caley-Thistle-star-in-court-over-street-brawl-10102014.htm

Richie Foran admonished in court for retaliating after himself and Aaron Doran were followed, punched several times and hurled with sectarian abuse in Inverness town center.

[Stuttgart88]

The court obviously thinks he should just have accepted being punched and abused. I hope none of us gets this kind of reception in Scotland next week. Sounds like a lovely place really. Stokes, Doran and Foran should be more respectful of their hosts' culture.

Admonished in Scots Law means he still carries a conviction, just one with no sentence.

[Charlie Darwin]

Call him up Kerr!

[BonnieShels]

Reading through some of the stiff on this thread is mad.

[tricky_colour]

Sounds ridiculous. Clearly he has a right to defend himself, he should have punched the judge in the face a couple of
times and see how he reacted.

[Deckydee]

http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae225/dangreco/General/AriseThreadLongSinceDead.jpg

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Linked with Inverness hotseat.

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/spfl/925143/richie-foran-line-caley-thistle-hotseat-john-hughes-departs/

Would this make him the only Irish born manager in the UK?

[tetsujin1979]

Andy Reid is managing Forest at the moment.

[Closed Account]

Linked with Inverness hotseat.

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/spfl/925143/richie-foran-line-caley-thistle-hotseat-john-hughes-departs/

Would this make him the only Irish born manager in the UK?
Brendan Rodgers took over at Celtic....

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Named Inverness manager on four year deal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36412971

[OwlsFan]

Linked with Inverness hotseat.

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/spfl/925143/richie-foran-line-caley-thistle-hotseat-john-hughes-departs/

Would this make him the only Irish born manager in the UK?

Lots managing in Northern Ireland.

[BonnieShels]

Lots managing in Northern Ireland.

Ouch!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Inverness well on course for a fourth successive loss today.

Conor Sammon with Hearts's second goal. Currently leading by two.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

The bells are tolling for Foran.

Inverness trailing Dundee by two goals.

This would be a 5th loss in 6 league games unless they turn it around.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Inverness will be relegated as things stand barring an extremely unlikely set of circumstances.

Pity as they have an Irish manager and three young Irish players.

Looks like Foran's management career will go the way of Joe Dunne and Graham Kavanagh before him.

[DeLorean]

Strong words from Foran following relegation - http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39988271

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Another Irish born manager crashes and burns.

http://www.the42.ie/richie-foran-leaves-role-as-inverness-manager-3415574-May2017/

Jim Goodwin is now the only Irish born manager in the whole of Britain.

[BonnieShels]

Another Irish born manager crashes and burns.

http://www.the42.ie/richie-foran-leaves-role-as-inverness-manager-3415574-May2017/

Jim Goodwin is now the only Irish born manager in the whole of Britain.

Were Brendan Rogers and Neil Lennon born on a ship or something?



EDIT: Tommy Wright and Steve Robinson in Scotland as well.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

They were born on the island of Ireland but they are Northern Irish, am I right?

[CraftyToePoke]

Are they Irish born or not ?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

It's not up to me to decide what they are.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

They could identify as British for all I know.

[DannyInvincible]

Are they Irish born or not ?

Neil Lennon is Irish, identifies as such and carries an Irish passport: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/ifa-accept-passport-ruling-1.1008336


The controversy [in 2006 of FIFA demanding that NI footballers must carry British passports] has caused a political storm with nationalists insisting it is contrary to the tenets of the Good Friday Agreement which gives citizens in the North the right to hold dual nationality. Last week Celtic midfielder Neil Lennon branded the rule ridiculous and said it would have barred him from playing.

He said: "(It) would have ruled me out for a start. The fact is that if you're from Northern Ireland you're Irish. It's a ridiculous move." Lennon has retired from international football following death threats from loyalists.

For what it's worth, the FIFA decision mentioned there was later reversed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/5093924.stm

[CraftyToePoke]

They could identify as British for all I know.

Irrelevant TOWK, even if they have a shrine to the queen and a for God and for Ulster tattoo - they are Irish born. Be it Northern Irish or Irish or identifying as British within that, they were born in Ireland and hence are Irish born. Irishmen. The island of Ireland.

Do you actually not see that or is someone only Irish when they are tricolour wrapped to your eye ?

[CraftyToePoke]

It's not up to me to decide what they are.

So its not up to you to decide what they are.

Yet you are content to dismiss them as being Irish born / identifying as Irish - (or whatever nonsense angle you are pedaling this time)


Would you do me the kindness of explaining that please ?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

My apologies. I should have clarified Goodwin is the only ROI born manager in Great Britain, like the fellow I ascertained the information from.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EamonnDonohoe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.the42.ie%2Frichie-foran-leaves-role-as-inverness-manager-3415574-May2017%2F

CTP, I honestly would rather not prescribe labels to people.

Some people, very possibly a couple of the aforementioned managers, would not identify as Irish.

People live or die over things like this, unfortunately.

[Olé Olé]

CTP, I honestly would rather not prescribe labels to people.

That's good of you...

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Do ye lads look out for the fortunes of Steven Davis and Gareth McAuley every weekend?

[CraftyToePoke]

Whether we do or not, it affects their place of birth not one iota. They are Irish born men.

[tetsujin1979]

very true, Irish born one and all. Now, back to Richie Foran and his nascent management career.