Attendance figures now published.....

[AnnaghRed]

....and makes for depressing reading:

INSTITUTE V COLERAINE 620
INSTITUTE V CLIFTONVILLE 467
INSTITUTE V BALLYMENA 420
INSTITUTE V DUNGANNON 416
INSTITUTE V CRUSADERS 375

BALLYMENA V LINFIELD 1656
BALLYMENA V CLIFTONVILLE 799
BALLYMENA V GLENAVON 567
BALLYMENA V BANGOR 494
BALLYMENA V DUNGANNON 398
BALLYMENA V DISTILLERY 350

BANGOR V LINFIELD 1327
BANGOR V CRUSADERS 507
BANGOR V DISTILLERY 328
BANGOR V INSTITUTE 327
BANGOR V NEWRY 205

COLERAINE V BANGOR 665
COLERAINE V GLENAVON 643
COLERAINE V DUNGANNON 632

CRUSADERS V CLIFTONVILLE 820
CRUSADERS V COLERAINE 610
CRUSADERS V BALLYMENA 600
CRUSADERS V GLENAVON 550

LINFIELD V CRUSADERS 1943
LINFIELD V COLERAINE 1804
LINFIELD V NEWRY 1614
LINFIELD V INSTITUTE 1378

DISTILLERY V GLENTORAN 917
DISTILLERY V LINFIELD 805
DISTILLERY V CRUSADERS 417
DISTILLERY V CLIFTONVILLE 413
DISTILLERY V COLERAINE 277
DISTILLERY V INSTITUTE 174
DISTILLERY V NEWRY 167

DUNGANNON V LINFIELD 1060
DUNGANNON V GLENTORAN 940
DUNGANNON V NEWRY 280
DUNGANNON V DISTILLERY 232
DUNGANNON V BANGOR 135

GLENAVON V CLIFTONVILLE 700
GLENAVON V DISTILLERY 620
GLENAVON V BANGOR 550
GLENAVON V INSTITUTE 360
GLENAVON V NEWRY 351

GLENTORAN V CLIFTONVILLE 1757
GLENTORAN V COLERAINE 1738
GLENTORAN V BANGOR 1575
GLENTORAN V CRUSADERS 1397
GLENTORAN V INSTITUTE 1271
GLENTORAN V BALLYMENA 1239

NEWRY V GLENTORAN 657
NEWRY V COLERAINE 354
NEWRY V CLIFTONVILLE 347
NEWRY V BALLYMENA 304
NEWRY V INSTITUTE 171

CLIFTONVILLE V BANGOR 273
CLIFTONVILLE V DUNGANNON 256

About Scottish Division Two level?

[Graemerz]

Frig sake don't dispell Moob's fantasy that the Glens have a bigger support than the Blues. :eek:

[pineapple stu]

No way do Stute get over 300!

Interesting to see decent crowds at the start and then dropping severely after that. Looks like the new Super-Duper league hype has waned already?

Scottish Division Three teams get 300-500.

[Steve Bruce]

I would certainly doubt a few attendances there in the Linfield games, home and away.

[Graemerz]

No way do Stute get over 300!

Interesting to see decent crowds at the start and then dropping severely after that. Looks like the new Super-Duper league hype has waned already?

Scottish Division Three teams get 300-500.

No, but the visiting support MAY be able to muster that.

[Mr_Parker]

These figures are for league games only. Last years average attendance for the league was about 750 per game. The average so far is 717 but there are seveal factors to take into account. No big 2 games have taken place yet and several high profile games were postponed in that period. Also Cliftonville played most of their games away from home and the two 'home' games they did have were played at DC. The other factor that will skew figures for most of the season is the effect the 2 home 1 away set up of the league this season and how this is balanced out following the split.

[superfrank]

Anyone have equivalent figures for last year(s)?

[Mr_Parker]

Anyone have equivalent figures for last year(s)?

They weren't published but that is the average that I posted above. 750.

[AnnaghRed]

Interesting to see decent crowds at the start and then dropping severely after that. Looks like the new Super-Duper league hype has waned already?

My fault, I arranged them biggest crowds first.

[superfrank]

They weren't published but that is the average that I posted above. 750.
Oh, missed that. Thanks.

[Bohemian1890]

These figures are for league games only. Last years average attendance for the league was about 750 per game. The average so far is 717 but there are seveal factors to take into account. No big 2 games have taken place yet and several high profile games were postponed in that period. Also Cliftonville played most of their games away from home and the two 'home' games they did have were played at DC. The other factor that will skew figures for most of the season is the effect the 2 home 1 away set up of the league this season and how this is balanced out following the split.

How far a walk is DC ground from Cliftonvilles ground?

[Graemerz]

How far a walk is DC ground from Cliftonvilles ground?

Far enough considering Solitude is in North Belfast and Suffolk Road is in West.

[Dodge]

I would certainly doubt a few attendances there in the Linfield games, home and away.

You mean you'd like to keep the myth of Linfield's massive crowds alive...

[brendy_éire]

How far a walk is DC ground from Cliftonvilles ground?

About 2 hours. Suffolk Road is in south, south Belfast. It's practically in Lisburn. (though strangely they claim to be in west Belfast :confused:)

[Krstic]

About 2 hours. Suffolk Road is in south, south Belfast. It's practically in Lisburn. (though strangely they claim to be in west Belfast :confused:)

I'd say Lisburn is also in South Belfast, though strangely claim to be a City in their own right:confused:

[Mr_Parker]

I would certainly doubt a few attendances there in the Linfield games, home and away.

So are you suggesting that your club are submitting false information to the IFA?

[Steve Bruce]

So are you suggesting that your club are submitting false information to the IFA?

I'm not suggesting anything and I'm not going to enter into a debate/discussion with a guy like you.

[Mr_Parker]

I'm not suggesting anything and I'm not going to enter into a debate/discussion with a guy like you.

:rolleyes: Well we'll just have to let everyone else draw their own conclusions from the statement you made about your clubs submited attendance figures.

[AnnaghRed]

1627 Linfield :eek:
1546 Glentoran
710 Coleraine
624 Ballymena
572 Glenavon
560 Crusaders
445 Institute :eek:
376 Cliftonville :eek:
323 Bangor
272 Dungannon
250 Newry
233 Distillery

[citybone]

i find it funny that linfield say that they are the biggest club on the island when thats there average att. i guess they havent had any big games yet but there average crowds are lower than the average for the league of ireland premier division.

[pineapple stu]

Are those figures released regularly somewhere?

[Cymro]

Attendances are bad everywhere this year, it's pretty bad in the Welsh Premier (http://www.welsh-premier.com/attendances.php) too. Last week's match between The New Saints and Rhyl which usually gets at least 600-700 attracted a mere 376. Probably has something to do with the economic downturn, but whatever the reason, it's definitely not exclusive to Ireland.

[Dodge]

it's definitely not exclusive to Ireland.

You're probably unaware of the political remaifications of that statement :D

[Steve Bruce]

i find it funny that linfield say that they are the biggest club on the island when thats there average att. i guess they havent had any big games yet but there average crowds are lower than the average for the league of ireland premier division.

Linfields crowds are very poor this season, look on the Linfield forums and you'll notice how we are all commenting on it.

Our average will read around 2800-3000 we still have to play Glentoran twice at Windsor and then we have other big games through out the season.

Although our support has went to pieces this season, I don't know if this is to do with the credit crunch, the unusually very cold weather or our bad performances. Probably a bit of each.

But our crowds are very poor so far.

[AnnaghRed]

Are those figures released regularly somewhere?

http://www.ifapremiership.com/results.htm then click on the "report" link, usually take about a week to appear.

Dont know if the figures include season ticket holders or not but the attendances for Blue, Glens and Cliftonville are all depressingly low, while Institutes seem on the high side.


Attendances are bad everywhere this year, it's pretty bad in the Welsh Premier (http://www.welsh-premier.com/attendances.php) too. Last week's match between The New Saints and Rhyl which usually gets at least 600-700 attracted a mere 376. Probably has something to do with the economic downturn, but whatever the reason, it's definitely not exclusive to Ireland.

I would guess that like in 1996 when we tried to cut the smaller clubs out and play each other 5, 6, or even 7 times a season, familiarity is breeding lack of interest.

Would expect some attendances to increase in the 3rd half of the season :o especially as it looks like Linfield might actually not win the league this season

[Mr_Parker]

I would certainly doubt a few attendances there in the Linfield games, home and away.


So are you suggesting that your club are submitting false information to the IFA?


I'm not suggesting anything and I'm not going to enter into a debate/discussion with a guy like you.


:rolleyes: Well we'll just have to let everyone else draw their own conclusions from the statement you made about your clubs submited attendance figures.


Linfields crowds are very poor this season, look on the Linfield forums and you'll notice how we are all commenting on it.

Our average will read around 2800-3000 we still have to play Glentoran twice at Windsor and then we have other big games through out the season.

Although our support has went to pieces this season, I don't know if this is to do with the credit crunch, the unusually very cold weather or our bad performances. Probably a bit of each.

But our crowds are very poor so far.


Nice backtracking there SS.

[Graemerz]

Can't believe Brucey got his post deleted for telling the truth. :cool:

[oriel]

What was the crowd for Linfield v Glentoran yesterday ?

The avg crowds so far in the IPL (w/o Lin/Glen) would compare to LOI First Div (top half)

Linfield/Glens are ok at 1,500 + each

Any figs from the IFA Championship ????

[JerseyRed]

Media reports estimate about 10,000 were at it.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/riot-police-deal-with-hooligan-fans-as-linfield-beat-glentoran-14121026.html

[dcfcsteve]

Attendances are bad everywhere this year, it's pretty bad in the Welsh Premier (http://www.welsh-premier.com/attendances.php) too. Last week's match between The New Saints and Rhyl which usually gets at least 600-700 attracted a mere 376. Probably has something to do with the economic downturn, but whatever the reason, it's definitely not exclusive to Ireland.

As the link you've posted shows, the stats don't back that view up though Cymro.

The Welsh Premeir is actually having its best season ever so-far with regards attendances. The Rhyl-Prestatyn derby on the 27th had a crowd of over 2,100 at it - which is virtually unheard of in Welsh football. The Caernarfon-Bnagor derby the day before that had over 1,000 at it as well.

Regarding the New Saints, their crowds are poor for a team that is always at or near the top of the league, so I wouldn't read too much into them - particularly as they're looking unlikely to win the title again this year. 376 isn't that out of the ordinary an attendance for them - they're averaging 295 a game this season to-date.

The problem with the Welsh league and attendance figures is that the numbers are so low that it isn't difficult for a small number of people to buck the figures in a large way either up or down. If 50 less people turn up to every game one weekend, the averages get completely blown, and vice-versa, as the league only averages about 300 per fixture.

It's great that the Welsh Premier publically report all attendances however - even if it does have tax implications. The Republic's clubs have no excuse.

[Flexy]

Media reports estimate about 10,000 were at it.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/riot-police-deal-with-hooligan-fans-as-linfield-beat-glentoran-14121026.html

There was defo more than 4,000 empty seats at windsor for the big 2 derby

[AnnaghRed]

Looked to be 4000+ in the N stand and the south [3000] and kop [4000] stands looked fairly well filled....would say they had 10000 easily. "official" crowd will probably be around 6000 though :rolleyes:

[Not Brazil]

There was defo more than 4,000 empty seats at windsor for the big 2 derby

No, there wasn't.

[JerseyRed]

There was defo more than 4,000 empty seats at windsor for the big 2 derby

I'd find it very hard to believe that there woiuld be that much empty seats during this game on boxing day.

[oriel]

The two clips I saw on bbc of Ferguson's two goals both had complete empty seats behind each clip - Windsor Pk is not that big is it ?

[Not Brazil]

The two clips I saw on bbc of Ferguson's two goals both had complete empty seats behind each clip - Windsor Pk is not that big is it ?

The stand behind where Spike scored those two little beauties is The Railway Stand - it is closed, and only holds 500 max anyway.

[oriel]

The stand behind where Spike scored those two little beauties is The Railway Stand - it is closed, and only holds 500 max anyway.


Ok fair enough, 10,000 is a great crowd for a domestic game, anywhere in Ireland.

Shame we cant get even half that as an avg in both lges.

[citybone]

i worked Linfields average out at 2669 so far including the boxing day figure. which would make them the 3rd best supported club on the island behind cork city and Derry

[Steve Bruce]

According to the Derry City Chairman you didn't get 3000 at a game. So I'll take the average figure on this site with a major pinch of salt.

Our league is still going, we'll compare ourselves with other official attendances. (although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL)

[citybone]

According to the Derry City Chairman you didn't get 3000 at a game. So I'll take the average figure on this site with a major pinch of salt.

Our league is still going, we'll compare ourselves with other official attendances. (although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL)

I'm not a Derry City fan by the way! I'm a Cork City fan and our attendance are official and have a electronic ticket scanning machine to make it accurate.

BIGGEST CLUB ON THE ISLAND!!!

[Not Brazil]

According to the Derry City Chairman you didn't get 3000 at a game. So I'll take the average figure on this site with a major pinch of salt.

Our league is still going, we'll compare ourselves with other official attendances. (although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL)

According to Derry City Chairman, Pat McDaid, in an article in the Derry Journal in November 2008:

"Our average attendance figure for the year was roughly 2,000 supporters. People talked about crowds of 3,500 and 4,000 fans attending Brandywell Stadium, that did not happen once last season," he insisted.

http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sport/Derry-City-must-face-up.4743072.jp

[pineapple stu]

although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL

Glenavon seem to only ever get 650 or 700 at a game. And I see the Big Two game was down as "About 9500", whereas Linfield could submit official figures for all their other games. Not sure what to make of that.

[Graemerz]

BIGGEST CLUB ON THE ISLAND!!!

Hardly, you may have the most support and there are factors for this but the Cork City name is nothing, Cork are nowhere.

[AnnaghRed]

Linfield 2378 highest 9500 v glentoran
Glentoran 1475..........1757 v cliftonville
Ballymena 951........... 2520 v coleraine
Coleraine 824............1526 v linfield
Crusaders 812...........2660 v linfield
Cliftonville 798........2041 v linfield
Glenavon 740............1450 v glentoran
Institute 539............1200 v linfield
Distillery 464............917 v linfield/glentoran
Bangor 451................1327 v linfield
Dungannon 417...........1060 v linfield
Newry city 335...........854 v linfield

[JerseyRed]

Surprised at the Glens one TBH. I know they haven't played the blues yet at home....but still...

[Cymro]

As the link you've posted shows, the stats don't back that view up though Cymro.

The Welsh Premeir is actually having its best season ever so-far with regards attendances. The Rhyl-Prestatyn derby on the 27th had a crowd of over 2,100 at it - which is virtually unheard of in Welsh football. The Caernarfon-Bnagor derby the day before that had over 1,000 at it as well.

Regarding the New Saints, their crowds are poor for a team that is always at or near the top of the league, so I wouldn't read too much into them - particularly as they're looking unlikely to win the title again this year. 376 isn't that out of the ordinary an attendance for them - they're averaging 295 a game this season to-date.

The problem with the Welsh league and attendance figures is that the numbers are so low that it isn't difficult for a small number of people to buck the figures in a large way either up or down. If 50 less people turn up to every game one weekend, the averages get completely blown, and vice-versa, as the league only averages about 300 per fixture.

It's great that the Welsh Premier publically report all attendances however - even if it does have tax implications. The Republic's clubs have no excuse.

The 2,126 for Rhyl v Prestatyn was very heartening. Worth stressing though that both that and the 1,027 who attended the other North Wales derby were Boxing Day (or near enough!) games, and hence played some 2 weeks after my original post. At the point of posting the Welsh Premier crowds were generally down on previous years. :cool:

The TNS average wasn't so much the issue I pointed to, just the one-off attendance against Rhyl who are meant to be their main rivals.

[citybone]

Hardly, you may have the most support and there are factors for this but the Cork City name is nothing, Cork are nowhere.

bitter? we molested yee in Windsor yee just caught us with a sucker punch near the end. yee seem to be content being a big fish in a small pond!

your fans useless barely sung until yee scored! cork city may not have a long history but cork football has a long history back to fordsons in 1921.

we have been consistently the best supported club in the eircom league for 5 out of 6 seasons or 6 out of the last 8 seasons. we are the best supported and qualified for Europe for the last 5 years and qualified for every settanta cup so far.

we may be only making history with cork city but we are still the biggest club.

[AnnaghRed]

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius. Linfield probably have the biggest potential support on the island, but thats got little to do with football.

[Graemerz]

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius.

Indeed.


bitter? we molested yee in Windsor yee just caught us with a sucker punch near the end. yee seem to be content being a big fish in a small pond!

Oh so it was our fault your strikers were ****e? Also lets not get into the whole Setanta timing issue. Big fish in a small pond, sorry for us wanting to play football in our own countrys league.


your fans useless barely sung until yee scored! cork city may not have a long history but cork football has a long history back to fordsons in 1921.

Coming from a "massive" club that brought 50 to Windsor.


we have been consistently the best supported club in the eircom league for 5 out of 6 seasons or 6 out of the last 8 seasons. we are the best supported and qualified for Europe for the last 5 years and qualified for every settanta cup so far.

See what Annagh Red posted. Like Cork we have qualified for every Setanta cup competition too, we have qualified as champions. Can Cork say the same thing?


we may be only making history with cork city but we are still the biggest club.

Erm no sorry wrong. Just because you have the biggest support does not make you the biggest club. Your little 20 year history has nothing on ours pal.

[Lux Interior]

i worked Linfields average out at 2669 so far including the boxing day figure. which would make them the 3rd best supported club on the island behind cork city and Derry

:D

Let's not forget the 4,000 Glenmen there plus the 3,750 'once-a-season' 'Bluemen'.