Petty GAA Officials

[jbyrne]

jbryne croke park prohibits everything because of those bloody GAA buggers, thought you knew this?!

i know. by letting us into their stadium they deprived us of many trips to the uk to attend our "home" games. complete fe*ckers! ;)

[Schumi]

I never noticed the traffic being too bad in Donnybrook on the way to games in Lansdowne, even with 50,000 there. Certainly nothing like Dorset Street is for games in Croke Park. Obviously there's more traffic on Dorset Street normally but it's still easier to get to Lansdowne in my experience.

[elroy]

I despise Croker, can't wait to be out of the hole.

its far from that in fairness, its a gaa stadium and works very well for both hurling and football. I havent been to a rugby game there but i understand it works reasonably well for rugby too. Unfortunately the same can not be said of football.

IMO the two main problems are 1: the pitch is too big for football and the crowd are too far from the action, in my opinion for football the upper tiers in the cusack and hogan give a better view than the lower tiers and 2: as a result of the increased capacity more people are going along who arent really that bothered if we win or not whereas in LR the hard core support was the vast majority.

LR was a hole but the best games I have attended from an atmopshere point of view were there. Hopefully the new LR will be the same.

[Jicked]

i know. by letting us into their stadium they deprived us of many trips to the uk to attend our "home" games. complete fe*ckers! ;)

"Letting us in to their stadium" :o How many millions are they getting off the FAI? A horrible shower of anachronistic idiots, the ban on tricolours is pathetic, whilst I can't help but laugh at all the "Fogra Specialtacha....stewards to end of match positions please." No surrender lads! Just amazed they haven't demanded Trap wears a Banisteoir bib.

[pete]

Just amazed they haven't demanded Trap wears a Banisteoir bib.

Maybe they would also demand he have an Italian-Irish translator. :D

[Sligo Hornet]

"Letting us in to their stadium" :o How many millions are they getting off the FAI? A horrible shower of anachronistic idiots, the ban on tricolours is pathetic, whilst I can't help but laugh at all the "Fogra Specialtacha....stewards to end of match positions please." No surrender lads! Just amazed they haven't demanded Trap wears a Banisteoir bib.

yeah laughed myself at that.......all those "professional orange-clad peace keepers" poised for action looking at a completely empty Hill 16:D

[jbyrne]

"Letting us in to their stadium" :o How many millions are they getting off the FAI?

still better than having to travel to the uk for our home matches. the fai is making a far far bigger profit from playing in croke park than it did in lansdowne

[Jicked]

Of course it's better, but they're hardly doing us any great favour. The way some GAA fans go on you'd swear they're putting themselves out in anyway instead of making millions of euro.

[OneRedArmy]

Just to throw a bit more fuel on this fire ;) the FAI aren't allowed to show any "soccer" on the big screen before or after the game or at half time (eg EL highlights, other Ireland games etc.).

Part of the agreement is that promotion of "soccer" isn't allowed.

I was going to say it was absolutely mindblowing, but sadly its no surprise at all.

Roll on the return to Lansdowne.

[Claret Murph]

:(

Part of the agreement is that promotion of "soccer" isn't allowed.

I was going to say it was absolutely mindblowing, but sadly its no surprise at all.

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Errrrrr let me see what were 50,000 plus fans there to see Netball !!!!!

petty, petty, petty :(:(

[paul_oshea]

Just to throw a bit more fuel on this fire ;) the FAI aren't allowed to show any "soccer" on the big screen before or after the game or at half time (eg EL highlights, other Ireland games etc.).

Part of the agreement is that promotion of "soccer" isn't allowed.

I was going to say it was absolutely mindblowing, but sadly its no surprise at all.

Roll on the return to Lansdowne.

eh ORA, where did you get this from?! Did you help sign the agreement?! ;)

[gufct]

Allegedly when Nicky Brennan took over from Sean Kelly the whole scenario changed re:the use of Croke park. The press have got wind of whats going on and expect a lot of coverage pre the Poland Friendly.

Brennan is totally opposed to the use of Croke park for soccer and rugby despite his public persona and has been blocking a lot of things behind the scenes including cutting back on the use of the pitch for training sessions.

[pete]

Just to throw a bit more fuel on this fire ;) the FAI aren't allowed to show any "soccer" on the big screen before or after the game or at half time (eg EL highlights, other Ireland games etc.).

Part of the agreement is that promotion of "soccer" isn't allowed.

People laughed when I said RTE were not allowed call LOI highlights show Monday Night Football...

The GAA are like the Irish stonemasons :o

[tetsujin1979]

Allegedly when Nicky Brennan took over from Sean Kelly the whole scenario changed re:the use of Croke park. The press have got wind of whats going on and expect a lot of coverage pre the Poland Friendly.

Brennan is totally opposed to the use of Croke park for soccer and rugby despite his public persona and has been blocking a lot of things behind the scenes including cutting back on the use of the pitch for training sessions.
The team didn't train at Croke Park at all before the Cyprus game...

[KianD]

Middling quality stadium, terrible access, dangerous signage (depending on which signs you see, Blocks 722, 723 only exist part of the time and 724 doesn't exist at all at all - until you're at it), horrific public transport links...

Roll on Lansdowne Road and being able to park in my Dad's office, a few hundred yards away, and actually drive away - or get on a train in to the city centre without clambering in to a tiny under capacity train station - or get a taxi on the surprisingly un-people-blocked roads - etc...

[Jinxy]

People laughed when I said RTE were not allowed call LOI highlights show Monday Night Football...

The GAA are like the Irish stonemasons :o

Do you mean the Freemasons? Or maybe the Stonecutters?

[Lionel Ritchie]

still better than having to travel to the uk for our home matches. the fai is making a far far bigger profit from playing in croke park than it did in lansdowne

Dunno about all that. I know I'm in a minority but I'd have preferred us to take these two campaigns to UK grounds (assuming FIFA/UEFA not having a problem with it). It's only 12 competetive games and I think it'd have been interesting to compare what the Gah are charging with quotes obtained from a whole host of London clubs in the Premier and Championship. That's before you look at other UK grounds in cities with large Irish communities ...Villa Park, Goodison, Anfield, OT, Elland Road, City Ground.

Travelling from Limerick it's scarcely more expensive to attend any event in London than it is in Dublin. Also, there's a lot of patronising platitudes spouted in this country about our diaspora. This was an opportunity to do something real and tangible for them.

Too many non-football related concerns were taken on board when CP was settled upon i.e. Pubs, money out of local economy, local TDs having to face their LVA overlords...

[Jinxy]

The team didn't train at Croke Park at all before the Cyprus game...

That was Traps decision.

[pete]

Or maybe the Stonecutters?

Thats them!

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[aidz1]

I think that similar to changing the thread “one night in November” to “another northie thread”, this one should be changed to “another gaa bashing thread”

To blame the recent atmosphere on the ground is very lazy. The blame on the lack of atmosphere lies on the feet of the supporters.

Prior to the home venue being moved to croke park, the atmosphere in Lansdowne was quite poor. There hasn’t been a great atmosphere at a match since the Dutch game 7 years ago. Only the Israel and Czech republic game came half arsed close to it. In fact, the atmosphere for the 2 big games in the WC 06 qualifiers against France and the swiss was pathetic. The atmosphere at the Slovakia game in Croke park was comparable to Czech game in Lansdowne I thought. The Slovakia game showed that an atmosphere in Croke park could be created if the supporters bothered. It can be bettered to.

There are not enough supporters at the home games. There are far too many “entertain me-ers” !!! It’ll be a day too soon when I hear another “supporter” saying “ive paid €50 for his ticket and I deserve to be entertained better than this”. Cant see this changing too much when we move back to Landsdowne. I say its time to get a proper vocal group of supporters together in the same area at the game and let the atmosphere build from there.

The moaning of certain players in the team is also unacceptable. The abuse some get is not on. It doesnt help when a lot of it is spawned in the media. Give them a chance, most who get this abuse are only learning the international game at 20-22 years old..These lads want to play for their country and deserve our support if putting in the effort.

I conceed that some of the atmosphere can be lost with the distance from the pitch too the stands, but that cant be used. There are 100s of top football stadia worldwide that still maintain there atmosphere and yet have a olympic size running track between the pitch and stands. It cannot be solely blamed. In fact i think a lot of the stadia used in the euros this year had that, yet the atmosphere did not not seem to suffer (that came across on the on the tele).

Some of the comments on this thread are petty…
someone on here complaining about the traffic (and them not even going to the game!!!). if your are not going to the game while complaining about the match traffic, stay on the aa roadwatch website or the commuting section on boards.ie.. croke park is on a main artery out of the city northbound. Of course it will cause more delays than usual….although I have to say croke parks location is handy for me heading down from the north…It used to be hellish to get across the liffey some evenings for the games in D4(hopefully the new tunnel will make it easier when we get back to landsdowne).

As for terming croke park a “soulless bowl”, that I had to laugh at…Rarely does a stadium see such passion. It would be better to call the entertain me-ers the "soulless bores" in croke park…

As for terms referring the game as soccer/football/association football, I couldn’t care less. Some on here are trying to create division by denouncing those who refer to the game as soccer. During last nights coverage of the FAI semi, soccer and football was both referred on many different occasions…so fu4king what..I don’t see a problem…. I don’t care what programme name MNS is given…at least we are getting a weekly show on the LOI.

In regard to the stewards removing tri-colours with slogans written on them, I cant say im too opposed to it. Some of the stuff written on our national flag at games are highly embarrassing. Advertising pub names and putting your individual name on it (so to show your mates on tele :rolleyes:) on our flag is not on. A flag I have seen recently was something like “Denise and Sean on Tour”…what fu4king next??…”Denise loves Sean”!??!.
If making a banner, why not have an all green banner with white writing on it….And attempt a bit of humour instead of the usual “ballymuck on tour”…By all means take the tricolours, but save them from the usual scrall owners name/pub names etc on them…

Make a bit of noise and get behind the boys instead of making more noise on here…

[paul_oshea]

Do you mean the Freemasons? Or maybe the Stonecutters?

i think pete is a bit mixed up to be honest ;)

[paul_oshea]

I think that similar to changing the thread “one night in November” to “another northie thread”, this one should be changed to “another gaa bashing thread”

To blame the recent atmosphere on the ground is very lazy. The blame on the lack of atmosphere lies on the feet of the supporters.

Prior to the home venue being moved to croke park, the atmosphere in Lansdowne was quite poor. There hasn’t been a great atmosphere at a match since the Dutch game 7 years ago. Only the Israel and Czech republic game came half arsed close to it. In fact, the atmosphere for the 2 big games in the WC 06 qualifiers against France and the swiss was pathetic. The atmosphere at the Slovakia game in Croke park was comparable to Czech game in Lansdowne I thought. The Slovakia game showed that an atmosphere in Croke park could be created if the supporters bothered. It can be bettered to.

There are not enough supporters at the home games. There are far too many “entertain me-ers” !!! It’ll be a day too soon when I hear another “supporter” saying “ive paid €50 for his ticket and I deserve to be entertained better than this”. Cant see this changing too much when we move back to Landsdowne. I say its time to get a proper vocal group of supporters together in the same area at the game and let the atmosphere build from there.

The moaning of certain players in the team is also unacceptable. The abuse some get is not on. It doesnt help when a lot of it is spawned in the media. Give them a chance, most who get this abuse are only learning the international game at 20-22 years old..These lads want to play for their country and deserve our support if putting in the effort.

I conceed that some of the atmosphere can be lost with the distance from the pitch too the stands, but that cant be used. There are 100s of top football stadia worldwide that still maintain there atmosphere and yet have a olympic size running track between the pitch and stands. It cannot be solely blamed. In fact i think a lot of the stadia used in the euros this year had that, yet the atmosphere did not not seem to suffer (that came across on the on the tele).

Some of the comments on this thread are petty…
someone on here complaining about the traffic (and them not even going to the game!!!). if your are not going to the game while complaining about the match traffic, stay on the aa roadwatch website or the commuting section on boards.ie.. croke park is on a main artery out of the city northbound. Of course it will cause more delays than usual….although I have to say croke parks location is handy for me heading down from the north…It used to be hellish to get across the liffey some evenings for the games in D4(hopefully the new tunnel will make it easier when we get back to landsdowne).

As for terming croke park a “soulless bowl”, that I had to laugh at…Rarely does a stadium see such passion. It would be better to call the entertain me-ers the "soulless bores" in croke park…

As for terms referring the game as soccer/football/association football, I couldn’t care less. Some on here are trying to create division by denouncing those who refer to the game as soccer. During last nights coverage of the FAI semi, soccer and football was both referred on many different occasions…so fu4king what..I don’t see a problem…. I don’t care what programme name MNS is given…at least we are getting a weekly show on the LOI.

In regard to the stewards removing tri-colours with slogans written on them, I cant say im too opposed to it. Some of the stuff written on our national flag at games are highly embarrassing. Advertising pub names and putting your individual name on it (so to show your mates on tele :rolleyes:) on our flag is not on. A flag I have seen recently was something like “Denise and Sean on Tour”…what fu4king next??…”Denise loves Sean”!??!.
If making a banner, why not have an all green banner with white writing on it….And attempt a bit of humour instead of the usual “ballymuck on tour”…By all means take the tricolours, but save them from the usual scrall owners name/pub names etc on them…

Make a bit of noise and get behind the boys instead of making more noise on here…

well said, great post one of the finest ive ever read on here. The only thing I'd like to add re: the flags is, if its your local junior football clubs name on it I think its great. The local junior club at home had it in paris all those years ago. It was bloody huge, and could be seen from nearly all the stadium, and it just had the club name and "fc" at the end. Thats the only thing I'd like to see on the flags. "sean loves deinise" LOL

[SuperDub]

I think that similar to changing the thread “one night in November” to “another northie thread”, this one should be changed to “another gaa bashing thread”

To blame the recent atmosphere on the ground is very lazy. The blame on the lack of atmosphere lies on the feet of the supporters.

Prior to the home venue being moved to croke park, the atmosphere in Lansdowne was quite poor. There hasn’t been a great atmosphere at a match since the Dutch game 7 years ago. Only the Israel and Czech republic game came half arsed close to it. In fact, the atmosphere for the 2 big games in the WC 06 qualifiers against France and the swiss was pathetic. The atmosphere at the Slovakia game in Croke park was comparable to Czech game in Lansdowne I thought. The Slovakia game showed that an atmosphere in Croke park could be created if the supporters bothered. It can be bettered to.

There are not enough supporters at the home games. There are far too many “entertain me-ers” !!! It’ll be a day too soon when I hear another “supporter” saying “ive paid €50 for his ticket and I deserve to be entertained better than this”. Cant see this changing too much when we move back to Landsdowne. I say its time to get a proper vocal group of supporters together in the same area at the game and let the atmosphere build from there.

The moaning of certain players in the team is also unacceptable. The abuse some get is not on. It doesnt help when a lot of it is spawned in the media. Give them a chance, most who get this abuse are only learning the international game at 20-22 years old..These lads want to play for their country and deserve our support if putting in the effort.

I conceed that some of the atmosphere can be lost with the distance from the pitch too the stands, but that cant be used. There are 100s of top football stadia worldwide that still maintain there atmosphere and yet have a olympic size running track between the pitch and stands. It cannot be solely blamed. In fact i think a lot of the stadia used in the euros this year had that, yet the atmosphere did not not seem to suffer (that came across on the on the tele).

Some of the comments on this thread are petty…
someone on here complaining about the traffic (and them not even going to the game!!!). if your are not going to the game while complaining about the match traffic, stay on the aa roadwatch website or the commuting section on boards.ie.. croke park is on a main artery out of the city northbound. Of course it will cause more delays than usual….although I have to say croke parks location is handy for me heading down from the north…It used to be hellish to get across the liffey some evenings for the games in D4(hopefully the new tunnel will make it easier when we get back to landsdowne).

As for terming croke park a “soulless bowl”, that I had to laugh at…Rarely does a stadium see such passion. It would be better to call the entertain me-ers the "soulless bores" in croke park…

As for terms referring the game as soccer/football/association football, I couldn’t care less. Some on here are trying to create division by denouncing those who refer to the game as soccer. During last nights coverage of the FAI semi, soccer and football was both referred on many different occasions…so fu4king what..I don’t see a problem…. I don’t care what programme name MNS is given…at least we are getting a weekly show on the LOI.

In regard to the stewards removing tri-colours with slogans written on them, I cant say im too opposed to it. Some of the stuff written on our national flag at games are highly embarrassing. Advertising pub names and putting your individual name on it (so to show your mates on tele :rolleyes:) on our flag is not on. A flag I have seen recently was something like “Denise and Sean on Tour”…what fu4king next??…”Denise loves Sean”!??!.
If making a banner, why not have an all green banner with white writing on it….And attempt a bit of humour instead of the usual “ballymuck on tour”…By all means take the tricolours, but save them from the usual scrall owners name/pub names etc on them…

Make a bit of noise and get behind the boys instead of making more noise on here…


Great Post. As you say landsowne road is no better for atmosphere then croker. We go to different countries and see how other fans are organised take montenegro for example there fans sang for the whole of the game.

Irish fans make croker what it is and no team should fear playing us there as we all sit back and expect to be entertained. Irish fans are so disorganised at home games.

The only time irish fans really get behind the team is at away games. To be blaming the gaa on our own failings is a bity petty. While i cannot wait to get back to landsdowne I dont think the atmosphere is going to be any better.

[Newryrep]

well said, great post one of the finest ive ever read on here. The only thing I'd like to add re: the flags is, if its your local junior football clubs name on it I think its great. The local junior club at home had it in paris all those years ago. It was bloody huge, and could be seen from nearly all the stadium, and it just had the club name and "fc" at the end. Thats the only thing I'd like to see on the flags. "sean loves deinise" LOL

I would pretty much agree with Aidz as well, but what about towns/county names ?, I think its great to see all the flags with the various towns/county names on all over the ground. Just an opinion.

[Lionel Ritchie]

I think that similar to changing the thread “one night in November” to “another northie thread”, this one should be changed to “another gaa bashing thread”… Don't see the problem with raising legitimate concerns about the deal with the GAA for the use of their facilities or their priggish stewards interfering with supporters flags and banners.

They're getting good money for the use of their less than perfectly suitable facility, top dollar and then some from what I gather, and for that as far as I'm concerned they shouldn't have any input whatsoever as regards for example what gets played on big screens at half time.

I don't have any major contention with the rest of your post re: the atmosphere, the traffic, football/soccer etc until....



In regard to the stewards removing tri-colours with slogans written on them, I cant say im too opposed to it. Some of the stuff written on our national flag at games are highly embarrassing. Advertising pub names and putting your individual name on it (so to show your mates on tele :rolleyes:) on our flag is not on. A flag I have seen recently was something like “Denise and Sean on Tour”…what fu4king next??…”Denise loves Sean”!??!.
If making a banner, why not have an all green banner with white writing on it….And attempt a bit of humour instead of the usual “ballymuck on tour”…By all means take the tricolours, but save them from the usual scrall owners name/pub names etc on them…

Make a bit of noise and get behind the boys instead of making more noise on here…

None of the stewards business whats written on the private property of any supporter provided it's not incitement to hatred or similar. So far as I'm aware banners and flags were removed because they were covering up advertising hoardings purchased by the likes of Guinness. All well and dandy if it's one of the GAAs own events but to my mind they have no business pimping their sponsors at an event for which they, they GAA, have already collected their sizeable wedge. Their sponsorship deals shouldn't cover FAI fixtures.

Incidently I too like seeing the names of towns, football clubs from ANYWHERE (I recall someone on here getting offended about a tricolour with Chelsea written on it ...come one come all I say), even private individuals who want to say hello. I do feel our flag is a little bit cheapened when I see the names of pubs, clubs and sandwich bars etc on it. But only to about the same extent I get a bit disgusted when I see the likes of Sinn Féin use our flag as a table cloth at their press conferences.

[Newryrep]

... So far as I'm aware banners and flags were removed because they were covering up advertising hoardings purchased by the likes of Guinness. .

Not so LR had my flag removed from Upper Canal by Security (or so I was told) the steward had no problem with it as I checked with him prior to putting it up and he and me checked there was no advertisement . So there was no advertising being blocked as there were no advertisements and it would not be because of blocked views from Lower Canal as the flag wasnt any bigger than the 'advertising' space.

The lack of Irish flags around Croke Park really gives a poor impression

[Scram]

Their stadium, their rules. The FAI as a body should never have had to turn to the GAA to have a stadium to play in, but there we are.

That said, on a personal level I think it's a petty move on the GAA's part.

And, it wasn't the GAA who asked that "Delaney Must Go" banners be taken down last year, so pettiness, if that's what it is, is not limited to the GAA.

Their stadium, their rules, and to be respected for that.

[micls]

And, it wasn't the GAA who asked that "Delaney Must Go" banners be taken down last year, so pettiness, if that's what it is, is not limited to the GAA.

No one said othewise


Their stadium, their rules, and to be respected for that.

I disagree. Just because you can do something doesn't mean they should.

Of course they can make the rules of their stadium, but making rules such as banning football advertising during a football game they are being paid well for simply makes them look petty.

It is unnecessary and while they are within their rights to do so it is only painting the association in a poor light. They have lost a lot of respect from myself, someone who has been a GAA person since birth. Between this and the Thomas Davis scenario I have become very disillusioned by the hierarchy of the association.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Not so LR had my flag removed from Upper Canal by Security (or so I was told) the steward had no problem with it as I checked with him prior to putting it up and he and me checked there was no advertisement . So there was no advertising being blocked as there were no advertisements and it would not be because of blocked views from Lower Canal as the flag wasnt any bigger than the 'advertising' space.

The lack of Irish flags around Croke Park really gives a poor impression

I'll defer to your first hand experience Newryrep. I'm going on what I'm being told and am reading. ...was any reason at all given as to why your banner had to come down?

Would they object to those checkered flags you always see a plethora of at GAA championship matches? Between Limerick and Armagh we could kit the place out in a manner they'd find more familiar and less intrusive maybe? :D

[Jinxy]

I'll defer to your first hand experience Newryrep. I'm going on what I'm being told and am reading. ...was any reason at all given as to why your banner had to come down?

Would they object to those checkered flags you always see a plethora of at GAA championship matches? Between Limerick and Armagh we could kit the place out in a manner they'd find more familiar and less intrusive maybe? :D

People wave their flags at GAA games though. They don't really hang them off the upper tiers much.

[Newryrep]

I'll defer to your first hand experience Newryrep. I'm going on what I'm being told and am reading. ...was any reason at all given as to why your banner had to come down? :D

I think he just mentioned that 'security' or something came/or asked for it to be taken down and it was taken down, I ony noticed at half time as the large one on Upper Hogan was gone so I checked my own. Not sure who physically removed it as I was watching the game.

I got the impression he (the steward) didnt have a high opinion of whoever the request came from.

[OneRedArmy]

eh ORA, where did you get this from?! Did you help sign the agreement?! ;)Straight from the horses mouth at the FAI Fans Forum.

And no, I didn't sign the agreement, as I wouldn't have paid the broken glass spreaders a cent.

[paul_oshea]

Straight from the horses mouth at the FAI Fans Forum.

And no, I didn't sign the agreement, as I wouldn't have paid the broken glass spreaders a cent.

I don't know if I can really be bothered to reply to the last sentence but Ill try and give a quick summation as to what you are saying. If for example bohs, derry or ireland fans were out causing trouble at a match you and your cronies would be on here saying, this was a tiny minority, these aren't real derry fans etc etc. Objectivity is a great thing when you don't have a personal empathy to one side or the other. This broken glass stuff happened feck all over the country etc and was done by some ignorant narrow minded fools the same fools you see on a saturday night looking for fights.

Anyway enjoy your boycott, I hope you don't mind missing out on watching us play Italy when we are on the crest of a wave and qualifying for a world cup. Oh well at least I can only assume you are boycotting as you wouldn't pay the "broken glass spraeders" a cent....;)

I hope that boycott extends to rugby and eh those other gaelic matches you were at in croke park too :rolleyes:

"wouldn't" and "have" are very similar in certain circumstances :)

[gspain]

I don't know if I can really be bothered to reply to the last sentence but Ill try and give a quick summation as to what you are saying. If for example bohs, derry or ireland fans were out causing trouble at a match you and your cronies would be on here saying, this was a tiny minority, these aren't real derry fans etc etc. Objectivity is a great thing when you don't have a personal empathy to one side or the other. This broken glass stuff happened feck all over the country etc and was done by some ignorant narrow minded fools the same fools you see on a saturday night looking for fights.

Anyway enjoy your boycott, I hope you don't mind missing out on watching us play Italy when we are on the crest of a wave and qualifying for a world cup. Oh well at least I can only assume you are boycotting as you wouldn't pay the "broken glass spraeders" a cent....;)

I hope that boycott extends to rugby and eh those other gaelic matches you were at in croke park too :rolleyes:

"wouldn't" and "have" are very similar in certain circumstances :)


AFAIK it hasn't happened in over 25 years. However it wasn't local yobs. In many cases it was the main guys in the local GAA club.

I know people who have firsthand experience of this. One guy who hadn't missed a home game for many years still hasn't gone to Corke Park. Another only decided to go on the morning of the Wales game. He still goes to all home and most away games.

Although I've never had to pick broken glass out of a goalmouth myself I've expereinced firsthand also the bigotry of the GAA at the time. Things are a lot better now (at least in the Republic) but there is a story that the media in this country won't touch.

[paul_oshea]

Gary I was't saying it was yobs, what I was saying is they are cut from the same ilk as those ignoramouses who fight lads "from outta town" on a saturday night. The ones who don't acheive much in life and their local community.

Come to think of it I remember playing on pitches that had broken glass but I always assumed it was just some eejit leaving a glass bottle that got smashed on the field. :D

[OneRedArmy]

Paul, you asked a question about the use of the big screen in Croker as you doubted the accuracy of what I said.

I clarified.

The last sentence was indeed petty, narrow-minded and historic but reflects my opinion that the FAI shouldn't have allowed itself to be bent over a barrel to play in Croker. And as far as I'm concerned, not allowing "soccer" to be shown on the big screen is a continuation of the historic defensive GAA mindset.

[paul_oshea]

ORA, I can't remember for definite as its been a while but i assume you can as you have probably been there more recently than I have for gaelic, unfortunately coming from where I do I don't have much of a reason to be in croker lately :D, but I don't remember them ever showing replays of the gaelic during half time either - i always remembered it as sponsorship ads etc. But I take the point if thats not the case.

[OneRedArmy]

ORA, I can't remember for definite as its been a while but i assume you can as you have probably been there more recently than I have for gaelic, unfortunately coming from where I do I don't have much of a reason to be in croker lately :D, but I don't remember them ever showing replays of the gaelic during half time either - i always remembered it as sponsorship ads etc. But I take the point if thats not the case.Paul its irrelevant what the GAA show. I couldn't care less if they show two donkeys in a field.

The relevant point is that, despite being paid a large amount of rent, they inserted a clause in the agreement prohibiting "soccer" being shown on the screen.

[paul_oshea]

I know what you are saying but I'm saying that I don't ever remember that screen actually showing anything other than advertisments during G.A.A games....

[jbyrne]

Paul its irrelevant what the GAA show. I couldn't care less if they show two donkeys in a field.

The relevant point is that, despite being paid a large amount of rent, they inserted a clause in the agreement prohibiting "soccer" being shown on the screen.

thats just not true. the tv pictures of the match is shown during the game with highlights at HT and replays during the game. exactly as it is at GAA matches

[OneRedArmy]

thats just not true. the tv pictures of the match is shown during the game with highlights at HT and replays during the game. exactly as it is at GAA matches
Read the thread above. I was referring to the showing of other football other than the match in question. I had realised that they show replays and highlights...

[jbyrne]

Read the thread above. I was referring to the showing of other football other than the match in question. I had realised that they show replays and highlights...

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weak

[OneRedArmy]

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weakThe FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

[endabob1]

The FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

If it was that important to them then why did they sign the deal?

The fact that the GAA own the stadium and the FAI are paying for the right to use it gives/gave the GAA the upper hand in the negotiations, Clearly they would be foolish not to recognise this and to take advantage of it for their own benefit. You & I may think it's petty but they undoubtedly see it as looking after their own product and unfortunately as it stands they call the shots, I don't doubt for 1 second had the situations been reversed the FAI would be playing hardball just as much.
Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?

[jbyrne]

Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?

this is due to the IRFU being an all-Ireland body and the FAI being just a body for the 26 counties

[OneRedArmy]

You & I may think it's petty but they undoubtedly see it as looking after their own product and unfortunately as it stands they call the shots, ?It is petty, that was the point.
Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?The IRFU to date, haven't been much of a threat in terms of grassroots playing numbers. Soccer has always been the no1 enemy.

With the recent successes in provincial and national rugby and a fairly sizeable increase in recreational playing base (not yet translated into the adult game), I wouldn't be surprised to see the GAA position harden.

[jbyrne]

The FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

fact or heresay? if fact, source?

[OneRedArmy]

fact or heresay? if fact, source?http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=1048103&postcount=82

[John83]

fact or heresay? if fact, source?
Noel Mooney said it. Take from that what you will.

[paul_oshea]

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weak

HAHA :D

ORA you didnt make that clear, i certainly didn't figure out thats what you meant till pointed out by Jbryne. A remote would be class quickest on the draw if ye get me!