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NorthoftheLee
09/10/2003, 12:22 PM
hopefully we'll get something from this...we need to be beating the likes of Derry whose confidence can not be good at the moment.
We need to open up a gap on St Pats...are they being made play on Friday?....could be an advantage as they have to be wrecked after last nites game....shels to beat bohs too hopefully...i think at this stage shels probably have the league..most consistent team in it. maybe second is still up for grabs...optimism is great:)
any way back to the game........
my starting 11..
----------------Devine------------------
Hoggie---Murray---Coughlan--Woods
Colin T---Greg-----Bennett---Kearney
----------Doyle-----George-----------
I know Colin has being playing great in the middle, but we're stuck for options really......our squad is not that strong....
subs......Colin P., Casey, Murray, Carey, Behan, (Nwánko??)
Games like tonight are ones that need winning. i reckon we have been playing well-ish, lately and should over power a cráp team of Brits quite handily.
Ditto on the team selection with NOTL, but he will prob start Murray again, and put behan on as centre half or something equally stupid.
Ruairi
09/10/2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Gary
team of Brits
:mad: :mad:
:p
City should win.
3-0 I'll go for.
razor
09/10/2003, 12:54 PM
Behan is a trier and there's no doubt about that but i'm seriously beginning to doubt that he has the ability to do the business at LOI level.
I mean, he might take quite well to centre half.
thecorner
09/10/2003, 2:41 PM
georgie supposed to be out with a thigh strain:(
pconnor
09/10/2003, 2:56 PM
I hope that Cork stuff Derry tonight by 2 or 3. We (drogs) were up there last week and had no trouble getting through their defence, had a few decent chances. Derry are crap in the air, which is no good for a long ball team. They created nothing at all from corners or free kicks. What i'm saying is that if a the Drogs can get through them in Derry (we've been crap away from home) then Cork should have no problem.
You owe us a favour lads, after all we did roll over and let you stuff us by 4 at the cross. BTW is O'Flynn out at the moment?
NorthoftheLee
09/10/2003, 3:04 PM
Originally posted by thecorner
georgie supposed to be out with a thigh strain
corner...dont be saying things like that please.....:(
Originally posted by thecorner
georgie supposed to be out with a thigh strain:(
He's probably just doubtful!;)
I'd also go with the same team as notl. We've not got much in Derry in recent times but I think, going on the contrasting form of both teams, we should win tonight.
Pats win last night now means no euro spot for 4th place. Looks like 3rd be only tot cup place now so City need to hang onto Bohs with a win tonight.
Originally posted by pete
Pats win last night now means no euro spot for 4th place. Looks like 3rd be only tot cup place now so City need to hang onto Bohs with a win tonight.
You sure Pete, coz if Pats win the cup and finish 3rd wouldnt we get the inter two bob cup spot? Or maybe Pats would take the UEFA spot and St. Francis would take the intertoto place:D
Originally posted by SÓCcfc
You sure Pete, coz if Pats win the cup and finish 3rd wouldnt we get the inter two bob cup spot? Or maybe Pats would take the UEFA spot and St. Francis would take the intertoto place:D
Doh! meant to say 4th only good for Toto spot but of course that not correct either. :eek:
Think this is what menat to say:
Bohs cup win would almost guarantee us some european football assuming we don't collapse & let Longford or Waterford past us...
:confused:
Originally posted by SÓCcfc
You sure Pete, coz if Pats win the cup and finish 3rd wouldnt we get the inter two bob cup spot? Or maybe Pats would take the UEFA spot and St. Francis would take the intertoto place:D
Would Longford not come into this at all, given that they would be runners-up in both cups?
Thing that worries me most is that it's the games we should win are the games we don't win....:(
When was the last time City won in Derry. We don't play well up there. They are always tough games esp now they are fighting for their Premier lives and City are not the most consistant at the minute. If City play well they will win and win well....that's my opinion.
I just hope for the guys that made the trip that it is not another sit back repeat of last time with a Troy to blame last minute winner :D
Originally posted by Ali-G
Any update???????????
kick-off in about 1/2 an hour
jim o'neill is down to ref this one so i wouldn't be expecting much :rolleyes:
sh!t sorry, got my time zones mixed up. And here i was, cursing Aertel. panic over for the time being....
Originally posted by Ali-G
sh!t sorry, got my time zones mixed up.
but Britain is in the same time zone as us.;)
Cork City 1-0 up after 4 mins. Kevin Doyle.
city_why
09/10/2003, 7:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/radiofoyle/
Live on the radio ......even the Derry commentators are saying O'neill hasnt given Cork anything.
Few minutes to go 1-1. George sent off early in the second half.
Hanging on according to Radio Foyle. Behan on up front.
Full time 1-1
By the sound of the commentary it was a point gained having to play most of the 2nd half with only 10men.
thecorner
09/10/2003, 8:47 PM
georgie being sent off was just waiting to happen all season
thecorner
09/10/2003, 8:48 PM
full time. 1-1
what was georgie sent off for anyway
Counting Crow
09/10/2003, 8:53 PM
OK the score has come up on Teletext ...... 20 minutes late of course.....
....... 1-1 Final Score.
Without knowing the details, I suppose it's not a bad result considering George was sent off in the 50th minute.......Jim O'Neill strikes again........I have no doubt it was controversial knowing that little %>?**$.
Bad knews is that George will now miss Monday's fixture with $hell$.
Not good news with Flynny out also.
Yup. If JOF not back, City will be very short up front. No offense to Behan but he's just not good enough. Kev Doyle play up front tho and he did score tonight.
Still considering where Derry are in the table and the fact we went a goal up, has to go down as points dropped.
Counting Crow
09/10/2003, 9:02 PM
Have to say ( and you know me at this stage - I'm not one to slag off our guys for the sake of it ) but Behan has gone backwards in recent months.
He looks very sluggish and lacking in confidence. He reminds me of John Cotter.
He was a real "wasp" when he broke onto the scene earlier.
Colin P ..... out
Flynny ...... out
George......out
Could be a long night on Monday!!!
Anyone know if our very own "J J" played? He was on the bench I believe!
foureyes
09/10/2003, 9:12 PM
another bad result no matter how you look at it.
brandywellpride
10/10/2003, 2:46 AM
Amazing result!
Derry had 37....YES 37 shots on goal in the 2nd half.Thats more than we've had for the whole season.
We hit the post 3 times.had 4 pens turned down.one a blatent handball save with 2 hands of the line.
Believe me Cork were unbelievably lucky to escape with a point tonight.
It's a point won for you's tonight.
Pat Dolan on our local TV station tonight was so glad to get out of the well without getting a hammering.
BTW O Call deserved his 2 yellow cards IMO.For his 1st he kicked a DC player on the head!
We used to so well in the Brandy well but in recent years don't seem to be able to get much out of there.
Maybe now are playing up their midweek on a thursday night as opposed to 12 noon has changed things.
Greg played on left again for a time.
Casey Brought on as a sub and subbed 10 mins later (i hate subbing subs).
Behan had a mare Im told.
with these tactics???? I mean Greg has proved time and time again, he cannot play on the left wing. he was doing great in centre mid last week and he was put over there as well. Story with that.
Also, the ongoing subbing substitutes. this must destroy a players confidence.
Examples:
Colin P Vs Pats in June. Hasnt been the same since.
Behan Vs Pats in Cup semi. Ditto
Casey last night. We'll see
Mulconroy Vs UCD a few wks ago. Not seen any action since.
one_bounce
10/10/2003, 2:01 PM
from what ive seen of casey he cant get any worse... and maybe a kick in the arse like that will get some more out of him... hes way too lazy.. def not the kind of player you want on the pitch if your trying to hold a lead/scrap a point out of a match
someone was saying a while ago that a great manager learns from his mistakes... well thats greg playin well in the middle against waaaherford switched to the wing and has a nightmare... surely dolan shouldnt have restarted it again last night..
i thought notl's lineup made a lot more sense
georgie needs to keep the head a bit more as well.. had a huge responsibility with john out and now hell miss shels...
maybe he knows something about jof we dont;)
Agree with you about Georgie. He's a bit like Alan Smith of Leeds...local lad playing for his local club he loves. His passion is obvious but he can get carried away. Georgie's spirit is one of his strengths but he does need to shut it at times and get on with things.
As for the subbing of substitutes...there is very little justification for it and makes no sense whatsoever unless players are injured or someone is sent off.
littlehops
10/10/2003, 5:32 PM
On Citynet, a couple of Derry fans posted that after Casey was taken off, Dolan gave him a savaging on the touchline. Now Casey has not impressed me in any game I've seen him, but if the manager's going to have a go, it should be behind closed doors.
How is any player supposed to respect a manager who treats his own players so badly? Very bad form, Mr "Supersaint"!
As for subbing the subs, it was a bad habit I thought the manager had grown out of. In fairness, when Mulconry was taken off at UCD, there was a reasonable tactical argument as Coughlan was sent off. But he had been impressive when he was on but he hasn't played since.
Hopefully Georgie will curb the verbals after last night. But with a manager who seems to exercise little control over his mouth, I have my doubts.
Originally posted by littlehops
On Citynet, a couple of Derry fans posted that after Casey was taken off, Dolan gave him a savaging on the touchline. Now Casey has not impressed me in any game I've seen him, but if the manager's going to have a go, it should be behind closed doors.
How is any player supposed to respect a manager who treats his own players so badly? Very bad form, Mr "Supersaint"!
Dolan has done that with a lot of players already this season (Casey included). I think it's one of his forms of motivation. Nothing to be upset or worried about.
Originally posted by Colm
Dolan has done that with a lot of players already this season (Casey included). I think it's one of his forms of motivation. Nothing to be upset or worried about.
I think there is more to this one.
Casey was brought off very quickly last night and that to me suggest that he wasn't putting in the effort that is required when you're down to ten men.
I don't think we'll see a whole lot more of Casey.
brandywellpride
11/10/2003, 3:35 AM
To be fair to Casey when he was taken off after NINE minutes, I felt sorry for him as the dugout in the Brandywell is just in front of our shed.
We were giving it everything IE: "you're shít and you know you are" when Casey must have said something to Dolan and then Dolan laid into him with his two hands pointing at him with the hairdrier treatment!We obviously started singing even louder but it did look very embarrassing for the player with us making it even worse.
bad form taking off a player after only being on for a few mins
no excuses for that .. i can understand casey being ****'d off about it
as for the derry goal.. shure twas an og by Dolyer, not a Holt goal as was announced in 'da media'
we, once o'neil fcuked up the match by sending off GOC for no reason, were understandable totally under the cosh, derry hit the crossbar twice and the post once, the lads defended with heart and sole, and maybe even could have robbed it towards the end when then had 2 halfchances on the counter attack, but all in all 2 points dropped you would have said at half-time when i thought we looked comfortable enough but point gained i suppose in the end given the circumstances of the jim o'neil factor
clearly that man has something of an 'out to get you' thing going on with georgie
:confused: :rolleyes:
oh and yeah behan had a mare.. as did a number of players that still stayed on the pitch waaay longer then they should have *cough* kevin murray *cough*
Originally posted by brandywellpride
Amazing result!
Derry had 37....YES 37 shots on goal in the 2nd half.Thats more than we've had for the whole season.
We hit the post 3 times.had 4 pens turned down.one a blatent handball save with 2 hands of the line.
Believe me Cork were unbelievably lucky to escape with a point tonight.
It's a point won for you's tonight.
Pat Dolan on our local TV station tonight was so glad to get out of the well without getting a hammering.
BTW O Call deserved his 2 yellow cards IMO.For his 1st he kicked a DC player on the head!
glad to see you boys don't exaggerate! It was a strange game. We should have lost it, but could have won it. The ref had yet another nightmare, there was one clear handball off the line when derry should have got a pen, and georgie's second yellow was for being pushed in the back by a defender! O'Neill clearly has a problem with George, and IMO should be kept far away from City matches, he books him just about every time he refs city matches :rolleyes: We played fine for the first 10 mins, and after that we reverted to stupid defensive ****e, inviting derry onto us. That said, derry's second half performance was excellent, if they keep that up, they'll be fine.
One quick question for you sean- I was interviewed by that local tv channel; did it get an airing at all?:cool:
well according to someone over on derry forum they did mention someone gettign interviewed alright from cork.. must have been you eanna :D
ah the fame and glory of it all :)
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