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NeilMcD
09/10/2008, 2:45 PM
Technically you may be right, as you have to be "in" the game in order to have a bad one. Miller's weakness is not that he does particularly bad things, makes poor passes etc, but that he simply is not engaged in what's happening around him. In the Columbia and Serbia games he was a complete passenger. Playing Miller and Whelan is in my view tantamount to not having a midfield at all. We are going to rely 100% on the wide players to create chances, which with Keane and Doyle as our strike force seems like an optimistic approach.

I know Trap's a tactical genius and I am an opinionated arse-hole but I just dont understand what's going on with our midfield selections at the minute.



I agree with you there on Miller, you have hit the nail on the head regarding Miller and I am not sure why Trap favours him over other players.

You are also spot on about the 2 last things also ha ha!!! Just kidding.

hunt4the
09/10/2008, 3:31 PM
Given
Kiely
Murphy

O'Shea
Dunne
Bruce
McShane
Kilbane
Delaney

Reid
Miller
O'Brien
McGeady
Duff
Hunt
Whelan

Doyle
Keane
Keogh
Long
Murphy

of the squad i would suggest only Bruce, O'Sh**, Miller and Long are absolute sh*te

Not too bad 5 out of 21 normally (apres WC 2002) we're on a 10 ****e players per squad rule, things are lookin up

NeilMcD
09/10/2008, 3:44 PM
O Shea had 2 great games for Ireland recently Maybe if he gets a decent run of it at centre back he can convince a few of us who have been on his back

Razors left peg
09/10/2008, 4:47 PM
of the squad i would suggest only Bruce, O'Sh**, Miller and Long are absolute sh*te

Not too bad 5 out of 21 normally (apres WC 2002) we're on a 10 ****e players per squad rule, things are lookin up

Have u not watched O Shea in our last couple of games...The lad has been excellent and is forming a very good partnership with Dunne

Scram
09/10/2008, 4:52 PM
Have u not watched O Shea in our last couple of games...The lad has been excellent and is forming a very good partnership with Dunne

He was at fault for the gaol v Montenegro (as was Dunne though!).

I am never comfortable with O'Shea at center back, but we don't have much else.

He won't play here v Cyprus anyway, he'll be out right.

Razors left peg
09/10/2008, 5:10 PM
He was at fault for the gaol v Montenegro (as was Dunne though!).

I am never comfortable with O'Shea at center back, but we don't have much else.

He won't play here v Cyprus anyway, he'll be out right.

I didnt think he was, there wasnt a lot he could do about it. He will stay at center half agains Cyprus

kingdomkerry
09/10/2008, 6:11 PM
Leave O'Shea centre back. He looked good there in our last couple of games and im sure the more games he plays alongside dunne the better a partnership they will develop

Fergie's Son
09/10/2008, 6:23 PM
He was at fault for the gaol v Montenegro (as was Dunne though!).


What goal? It was 0 -0.

I'm worried about us getting bossed about in the midfield. Sorry but I'd have Carlsley in there with Whelan to bully them and then rely on McGeady and Duff to open them up.

tricky_colour
09/10/2008, 7:48 PM
Duff Keane Reid McGeady
Doyle Hunt

(obviously we won't need a defense or keeper)

Paddy Garcia
09/10/2008, 9:33 PM
What goal? It was 0 -0.



You are far too worried about detail. Lets blame him for the goal anyway.

Closed Account
10/10/2008, 10:43 AM
Stokes gets senior call-up (http://www.safc.com/index.php?page_id=15884)


Anthony Stokes has been rewarded with a senior call-up for Ireland after impressing boss Giovanni Trapattoni in a friendly game last night.
Stokes played the full 90 minutes for an Ireland select XI against Nottingham Forest at Dalymount Park, creating the first goal in a 2-0 win.
And after impressing the watching national boss Trapattoni, the 20-year-old has been called up to the senior squad for their World Cup qualifier against Cyprus at Croke Park next Wednesday night.
Stokes joins Sunderland team-mates Andy Reid, Daryl Murphy and Liam Miler in the Ireland squad as the Italian today added three players from last night's friendly.
Hull's Caleb Folan, scorer of the first goal against Forest, and Manchester United midfielder Darron Gibson have also been promoted to the senior ranks.
Stokes has so far won tree senior caps for Ireland - Reid currently has 28, Miller has 19 and Murphy eight.Given
Kiely
Murphy

Foley-O'Shea-Dunne-Kilbane
O'Brien-Bruce-McShane-Delaney

McGeady-Miller-Whelan-Duff
Keogh-Gibson-Andrews-Reid-Hunt

Doyle-Keane
Long-Murphy
Folan-Stokes

NeilMcD
10/10/2008, 12:06 PM
Scram you are a chancer you are now blaming players for goals that did not even exist and the FAI for something they did not even organise.

Wolfie
10/10/2008, 12:58 PM
What goal? It was 0 -0.

I'm worried about us getting bossed about in the midfield. Sorry but I'd have Carlsley in there with Whelan to bully them and then rely on McGeady and Duff to open them up.

Presume he meant the Georgia goal? :confused:

Miller continuing to get the nod over Reid (certainly Trapp has continually placed Miller ahead of Reid when outlining his probable / alternate line-ups at press conferences) has been one of the most noteworthy things of Trapps tenure so far.

If he is indeed starting - we're really going to need Miller to finally deliver on all of these reprieves he's got in the green shirt.

Outside of that, admittedly, great strike against the Swedes (in a friendly) -I'm struggling to think of much else of note that he's done.

He goes missing from the midfield more often than not and I've found he concedes far too many needless free kicks which disrupts any momentum we try and build upon. He has no real creative presence and rarely if ever stamps some authority on the game.

If anything else - its D-Day for Miller. If this goes tits up it will be a costly gamble on Trapps part.

Rambling Along
10/10/2008, 1:10 PM
Folan, Foley, Stokes, Andrews and Gibson all called up for Cyprus.