Chadwicks Cup Final 2008

[theboy]

Big week for both the boro and s&f, whats the thoughts on this one??

[pool 7]

yes its a big game for both clubs.think it be a close game.The boro favourites to win,but s&f will be up for it,,, its a hard game to call!!!!

[GoodFootball]

yes its a big game for both clubs.think it be a close game.The boro favourites to win,but s&f will be up for it,,, its a hard game to call!!!!

Why are the boro favorites?

S & F will win this one easily, 3-0 I reckon...

[Whipitin]

Why are the boro favorites?

S & F will win this one easily, 3-0 I reckon...


It's not Fahy Rovers der playing!!!!

[GoodFootball]

It's not Fahy Rovers der playing!!!!

Are you a snuggie?

It wasn't long ago when we pi$$ed all over ye in division 1 ;) Now ye have the best financial backing in the ML but ye still cant win anything. Fitzie and JJ will tear ye apart, should be an entertaining game though...if ya like one sided affairs :D

[Closed Account]

Why are the boro favorites?
Because the Boro are second in the Super League? Favourite tag doesn't mean much anyway. I don't think the 11 S&F players that take the pitch on Sunday will be too intimidated by the Boro.

Some of the more outspoken members of the S&F side are fairly confident. They don't think the Boro can handle Paul Fitzpatrick. Good player. Do S&F have anyone that can handle Paul Curry? Supposedly Galway United will have a scout at the game to look at Curry. Hopefully he plays to his potential. Stevie G has played with Noel Hunt and says that Paul is just as good as him but unfortunately won't get the opportunity to play at that level.

Its a tough game to call. Our last league game against Ballyheane was called off so we haven't played a game since Ballinrobe.(4 weeks before Final) We didn't play well that day. The fact that S&F have played as recently as yesterday probably gives them an edge.

I'm not sure of the injury/suspension/absentee situation, so I think we should have a fairly strong lineup. For that reason, I think Snugboro should win the game 2-0.

[renovater]

this is tough one to call, the boro of late has suffered the jitters. S/f will go through fire and brim stone.
S/F for me would have to be odds on 2 win, then a gain the experience of Stevie Gavin might just tip the scales, if he can control his charges.
What ever happens The Super league is not on trial :rolleyes:

[kingkong]

I believe this could be a good game with alot of goals. Both teams have great strikers, but i believe both defences will be found out on the big pitch milebush is!!!

[1924]

Why are the boro favorites?

S & F will win this one easily, 3-0 I reckon...

I really dont know where your coming from,Ok ye beat Ballina after they made three defensive errors and handed ye three goals,I can see it been a very close affair,evan as close as going to a penalty shoot out.I agree that on thier day that jj and pf are very good strikers,Fair play to them on winning promotion in style this year.People understimate pc and sc for snugboro.Snugboro worked off a panel of 16-17 players all season and a little bit a credit must go to all of them,players and managers alike.In everybodys eyes this time last year they were relagation fodder.The money quote by somebody else here is a load of you know what.I hate all this talk of Money that people talk about and certain clubs,all hearsay:ball:

[1924]

Are you a snuggie?

It wasn't long ago when we pi$$ed all over ye in division 1 ;) Now ye have the best financial backing in the ML but ye still cant win anything. Fitzie and JJ will tear ye apart, should be an entertaining game though...if ya like one sided affairs :D

Obviously you know nothing about football!!!!!!!!!:p

[GoodFootball]

Obviously you know nothing about football!!!!!!!!!:p

It'll probably be a close game alright but still think S & F will win it ;)

[1924]

It'll probably be a close game alright but still think S & F will win it ;)


Im Not what you call a snuggie!!!!!

I have no affiliation with them whatsoever:)

[Leveller]

If the Boro have a decent keeper signed since they last played in the sportspark, they should be ok. Otherwise S&F will walk it.

[GoodFootball]

I really dont know where your coming from,Ok ye beat Ballina after they made three defensive errors and handed ye three goals,I can see it been a very close affair,evan as close as going to a penalty shoot out.I agree that on thier day that jj and pf are very good strikers,Fair play to them on winning promotion in style this year.People understimate pc and sc for snugboro.Snugboro worked off a panel of 16-17 players all season and a little bit a credit must go to all of them,players and managers alike.In everybodys eyes this time last year they were relagation fodder.The money quote by somebody else here is a load of you know what.I hate all this talk of Money that people talk about and certain clubs,all hearsay:ball:

No affiliation with S & F, am neutral in this one! They are good side though and would like to see them win the mayo cup for the premier divsion ;) Defence may be lacking but boros not so hot either!

[FahyForever]

I really dont know where your coming from,Ok ye beat Ballina after they made three defensive errors and handed ye three goals,I can see it been a very close affair,evan as close as going to a penalty shoot out.I agree that on thier day that jj and pf are very good strikers,Fair play to them on winning promotion in style this year.People understimate pc and sc for snugboro.Snugboro worked off a panel of 16-17 players all season and a little bit a credit must go to all of them,players and managers alike.In everybodys eyes this time last year they were relagation fodder.The money quote by somebody else here is a load of you know what.I hate all this talk of Money that people talk about and certain clubs,all hearsay:ball:

If you´re so against speculation and hearsay you should practice what you preach and not presume you know which club people are affiliated to. If you bothered to read these pages you would realise GoodFootball is not an S+F man, he merely rates them after playing against them four times this year. The old cliche of attack the post not the poster should come into play here. ´You obviously don´t know what you´re talking about´ is a bit rich. Also, to oppose someone mentioning money, which has unfortunately but definitely become a factor in the Mayo League, is to (A) promote ignorance of this unhealthy development and (B) draw attention away from the clubs who practice it. Primarily Celtic and now Snugboro. As you well know.

[Closed Account]

If you´re so against speculation and hearsay you should practice what you preach Primarily Celtic and now Snugboro. As you well know.
Good post, but unfortunately ruined at the death. Shame.

[FahyForever]

Good post, but unfortunately ruined at the death. Shame.

Well I think you generally have an unbiased, decent attitude in your posts Joe, so if you say that Snugboro have no renumeration system in place at the club whatsoever then I´ll take your word for it. Speculation and hearsay (which someone else was hypocritically claiming to abhor, not me) are unfortunately the only thing one can go on regarding a club´s finances, short of attending the AGM. I was never at a Celtic AGM but was well aware that Dykes was getting paid, club car etc. How? Someone told me. My comments regarding Snugboro was based on the same premise, someone in the game told me. When ye signed a lot of talent and came second in the league it seemed to add up. If I have misrepresented your club I apologise.

Any advice to a small club hoping to join the ranks of the Super league who could do with expanding the squad with talent but have no intention of paying anyone? It might come in really handy ;)

[1924]

If you´re so against speculation and hearsay you should practice what you preach and not presume you know which club people are affiliated to. If you bothered to read these pages you would realise GoodFootball is not an S+F man, he merely rates them after playing against them four times this year. The old cliche of attack the post not the poster should come into play here. ´You obviously don´t know what you´re talking about´ is a bit rich. Also, to oppose someone mentioning money, which has unfortunately but definitely become a factor in the Mayo League, is to (A) promote ignorance of this unhealthy development and (B) draw attention away from the clubs who practice it. Primarily Celtic and now Snugboro. As you well know.

Point taken and I now realise that Goodfootball is not an S n F man.Again I will apologise for assuming as one should never assume.However Has goodfootball played against snugboro this year or for that matter Seen them play.You talk about hearsay but can either of you say that you have seen snugboro play and how have you based your assumptions on a 3-0 win.You say that it would be good for the premier league and I agree that if S n F win it would be great.Im not opposing the fact of money or talking about money,all you get here is people talking about money that a or b or c is getting money,but when you ask the hard questions like giving examples,people have problems giving answers.Thats my point....dont talk about hearsay and if you do, mention the figures that these guys are getting otherwise its "hearsay".All hot air.Money has crept into mayo laegue football,of that there is no doubt.Why do you mention JUst "Celtic" and "Snugboro",what about your neighbours??? They were the first ever to pay players,and on that I can Caterogically guarantee that no celtic or snugboro player is getting paid.

[FahyForever]

Point taken and I now realise that Goodfootball is not an S n F man.Again I will apologise for assuming as one should never assume.However Has goodfootball played against snugboro this year or for that matter Seen them play.You talk about hearsay but can either of you say that you have seen snugboro play and how have you based your assumptions on a 3-0 win.You say that it would be good for the premier league and I agree that if S n F win it would be great.Im not opposing the fact of money or talking about money,all you get here is people talking about money that a or b or c is getting money,but when you ask the hard questions like giving examples,people have problems giving answers.Thats my point....dont talk about hearsay and if you do, mention the figures that these guys are getting otherwise its "hearsay".All hot air.Money has crept into mayo laegue football,of that there is no doubt.Why do you mention JUst "Celtic" and "Snugboro",what about your neighbours??? They were the first ever to pay players,and on that I can Caterogically guarantee that no celtic or snugboro player is getting paid.


Fair enough. To be honest I don´t want to get caught up in an argument about players getting paid because it´s just going to cause hassle and I don´t have the revelant details. I was just sticking up for Goodfootball as I thought your reply was harsh. Not that he needs sticking up for. I´ve already replied to Joe Denilson and want to opt out of the debate at that point. You´re right - I didn´t see Snugboro this year, but then I didn´t assume anything! I never made a prediction and have said nothing derogatory about the team. Best of luck.

[1924]

Fair enough. To be honest I don´t want to get caught up in an argument about players getting paid because it´s just going to cause hassle and I don´t have the revelant details. I was just sticking up for Goodfootball as I thought your reply was harsh. Not that he needs sticking up for. I´ve already replied to Joe Denilson and want to opt out of the debate at that point. You´re right - I didn´t see Snugboro this year, but then I didn´t assume anything! I never made a prediction and have said nothing derogatory about the team. Best of luck.


Fair Point

Your right,I dont want this to turn nasty either

Best of luck

[Closed Account]

Fight, fight, fight...........

[FahyForever]

Yeah, it was all kicking off there for a minute...

[threefivetwo]

If you´re so against speculation and hearsay you should practice what you preach and not presume you know which club people are affiliated to. If you bothered to read these pages you would realise GoodFootball is not an S+F man, he merely rates them after playing against them four times this year. The old cliche of attack the post not the poster should come into play here. ´You obviously don´t know what you´re talking about´ is a bit rich. Also, to oppose someone mentioning money, which has unfortunately but definitely become a factor in the Mayo League, is to (A) promote ignorance of this unhealthy development and (B) draw attention away from the clubs who practice it. Primarily Celtic and now Snugboro. As you well know.

primarily celtic????? sorry but can everyone just cop on and realise that celtic never have paid any player, i'm sick of saying it, just because players want to come to a succesful team and go far in the f.a.i's and connaught cups doesn't mean there is money involved so get off this jealousy streak!!!! why would 7 players leave celtic so if they were getting money?? 2 players left after dykes was gone to go somewhere they could get money, get over it!!!! worry about your own club!!!

[Whipitin]

Wel said threefive two!!! Fahy fans/players should be more concerned about survival in the superleague next year rather than the financial situation of the bigger clubs!!! Do you think yal be allowed into game on Sunday threefivetwo??? haha.... how do you think it il go????

[GoodFootball]

primarily celtic????? sorry but can everyone just cop on and realise that celtic never have paid any player, i'm sick of saying it, just because players want to come to a succesful team and go far in the f.a.i's and connaught cups doesn't mean there is money involved so get off this jealousy streak!!!! why would 7 players leave celtic so if they were getting money?? 2 players left after dykes was gone to go somewhere they could get money, get over it!!!! worry about your own club!!!

Leave Celtic, join Fahy ;)

Good man

[FahyForever]

primarily celtic????? sorry but can everyone just cop on and realise that celtic never have paid any player, i'm sick of saying it, just because players want to come to a succesful team and go far in the f.a.i's and connaught cups doesn't mean there is money involved so get off this jealousy streak!!!! why would 7 players leave celtic so if they were getting money?? 2 players left after dykes was gone to go somewhere they could get money, get over it!!!! worry about your own club!!!

If you took time to actually read the posts rather than go into your customary indignant rant you´d realise the only Celtic person I mentioned being paid was Dykes. Going to deny that?? Also, I´m not in the slightest bit jealous of a club whose players ´leave ..... to go somewhere they could get money´.

I´ve already said I don´t want to get involved in a discussion about finances, also, this thread is about the Chadwicks Cup final, which difficult as it may be to come to terms with, features neither Fahy Rovers nor Castlebar Celtic.

[threefivetwo]

Wel said threefive two!!! Fahy fans/players should be more concerned about survival in the superleague next year rather than the financial situation of the bigger clubs!!! Do you think yal be allowed into game on Sunday threefivetwo??? haha.... how do you think it il go????

:Dhow are you boy? of course i'll be allowed in, sure why wouldn't i? tough one to call bud how are you fixed? flying fit ya? good session on the cards i'd say!! :rolleyes:

[threefivetwo]

Leave Celtic, join Fahy ;)

Good man

what is that about?????:confused:

[Closed Account]

Well lets get this thread back on track......

Lets see the results of the last few games these two sides played against each other. Despite what a few papers have mentioned this week, S&F were relegated in 2006 so didn't bounce straight back up as has been suggested.

History
2006 Super League:
17/06/106 Snugboro United 1 1 Straide & Foxford Snugboro P. Foley
John McCarthy_______________Michael Smyth
26/03/106 Straide & Foxford 1 1 Snugboro United Green Road, Foxford P. Foley

2005 Super League
10/07/105 Snugboro United 2 1 Straide & Foxford Snugboro H. Loftus
David Hickey _______________Alan McDonnell
John McCarthy

10/04/105 Straide & Foxford 2 2 Snugboro United Green Road, Foxford H. Loftus
Declan Tigue (2)______________ Declan Shaw (2)

But this doesn't really tell much, as both sides have changed a lot since then. Indeed Gary Byrne was in goal for the Boro last time these sides met and now he's the S&F Custodian.

Head 2 Head
So lets look at their record against teams they've both played this year. Namely Ballina Town, Iorrais Aontaithe, Urlaur United.

Ballina Town 2-1 Snugboro United
Snugboro 0-3 Ballina Town
Straide & Foxford 4-2 Ballina Town

S&F come out on top here. Impressive in their victory. Whilst Snugboro were badly beaten at home to Ballina. The other Snugboro contest was 50/50 with a last minute goal deciding it.

Iorras 0-1 Snugboro United
Snugboro 3-1 Iorras
Iorras 3-3 S&F (S&F win on Pens)

Snugboro come out on top here. Impressively beating Iorras twice this season. S&F managed a draw away from home(a good result usually down in Carnenash). Could S&F benefit from the Penalty Practice?

S&F 3-0 Urlaur
Urlaur 0-2 S&F
Urlaur 0-2 Snugboro
50/50 here. Second string Snugboro struggled to overcome Urlaur but S&F had similiar result away from home.

Recent Form
Snugboro have played 3 games in last two months(mid season break does nothing for no one, should be abolished.) They've won 2 of them(5-1, 5-2) and lost one(2-4 to Celtic)

S&F have played 6 games in the last two months. They've won 5 (7-0, 2-0, 4-0, 4-2, 3-0) and lost one(3-0 to Kilmore)

S&F probably have an advantage because of match practice. But then again, Snugboro have had better opposition? Its a tough one. The more I think about it, the harder it is to call.

Final Verdict
Plenty of respect for S&F and if they win it, they will of played very well because the Boro is buzzing.
Snugboro 2-0 Straide & Foxford
Stevie G Man of The Match
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ahs1lg.jpg

[nevjo]

totally agree joe, snugboro to win. they are probably the best team ever..i love them.....

[Closed Account]

totally agree joe, snugboro to win. they are probably the best team ever..i love them.....;) Screw you, I'm bored on a Friday alright!

[Norm]

Two hardworking clubs who both fully deserve their place in Sundays final.

S&F have done themselves proud this season regardless of the result on Sunday.
Snugboro have also made great strides this season, shaking up the top end of the Super League and establishing themselves as a team to be taken very seriously next season.

With a bit of luck both clubs will build on their respective hard work and sucess this year and make the Super League a more competitive league as a result.

S&F 2-1.

[1924]

;) Screw you, I'm bored on a Friday alright!

Should be a good game,may the best team win.....But Stevie Gavin Man of the Match!!!!!! Will he be even playin?,I believe his form has dipped and he was suspended and injured for a long time.From where im standing he needs to step up a few gears!!!

[robben 11]

tough 1 to call say the boro will win 3-0 :D

[GoodFootball]

what is that about?????:confused:

Convo was gettin a bit serious, lighten it up by changin the subject.

Plus we need to strengthen our squad...haha!

[GoodFootball]

tough 1 to call say the boro will win 3-0 :D

Only if ur playin ;)

Ah no all the best, ye are on song at the moment...

[FahyForever]

I'm going to go for S+F. 1-1 full time. 2-1 after extra time. Best of luck to both clubs.

[nevjo]

im going with snf in the 90, cant see the boro handiling fitz and johnny. gavin will be a threat but thats all.

snf 3 - 1 boro

[kingkong]

I reckon snugboro 3-2

[celtic92]

id say SnF to win on penalties after a 3-3 draw in normal time

[thekop]

great win for s&f yesterday, hard work was made of it but great result, the boro players got carried away with themselfves thinkin they had it won by given smart comments to the lads and thats what lost it for them. a few of these lads have alot to learn about the game yet... i was quite amused with the comment "come to bosh tonight and ye can have a drink out of the cup".... happy days lads!!!

[BallyBoy]

Well Done S&F. Congrats. Great way to round off the year.

[thekop]

Well Done S&F. Congrats. Great way to round off the year.

Ya great way to round off a good year for us, alot of work put in this year, so glad to see it pay off.

[robben 11]

great win for s&f yesterday, hard work was made of it but great result, the boro players got carried away with themselfves thinkin they had it won by given smart comments to the lads and thats what lost it for them. a few of these lads have alot to learn about the game yet... i was quite amused with the comment "come to bosh tonight and ye can have a drink out of the cup".... happy days lads!!!

that was a comment directed at me throught the second half from sideline and a few players! Dec tigue came on 16 min to go got the goal 3-2 and got the team going again, fitzi to score 2 free kicks at such a big stage the last one 5 mins to go there was only going to be 1 winner!! Tiger changed the game for us they couldnt handle his determination the minute he came on got the goal the crowd was heard......Gary byrne saving 3 penalties just unreal stuff..., fair play to Yohann.C came in and said some nice words after the match him and aidan flatley have changed both clubs on and off the pitch, nice to see two different teams in the mayo cup-final this year, Treble winners 2008.........

[Closed Account]

"come to bosh tonight and ye can have a drink out of the cup".... happy days lads!!!
Congratulations S&F. Gracious winners on and off the pitch. Apologies for whoever was making the above comments during the game. Definitely not indicative of the management, the players or the club.

It was a cup final! Hard to say who deserved to win or who deserved to lose. Penalties is hard to take but thems the rulez. From a Boro perspective we are disappointed with the manner we conceded the goals, but unfortunately its a bit too late to work at on training! We didn't play well, but created plenty of opportunities and should of finished the game as a contest at 3-1.

For S&F, Jordan was very quiet after he got clattered for the deserved penalty. Fitzy was well marked and didn't do much but his two free kicks were top class. Alan Mc played well. It probably wasn't S&Fs best performance but they won't care at this stage. They didn't have a lot of attacking threat from midfield.

The Boro penalty was dubious, didn't see a lot wrong with it. With Stevie G missing, i guess it doesn't matter. I thought we had won it in the second half of extra time with a scrambled goal. Still a bit of confusion as to why it was ruled out. But I thought the referee and linesmen had good games overall. We'll definitely be back next year. And hoping to meet S&F again in the Connacht or FAI cups. Gary"****ing"Byrne! When did he learn how to save a penalty:D He even saved one with his balls.

[theboy]

was a good game to watch as a neutral yesterday, 6 goals and 2 pens in normal time, a dis-allowed goal in extra time, which was foul from where i was standing and peno's. cant ask for more in a cup final. I thought the boro played well, s&f didnt really seem to start at all yesterday but they'll be quite happy to have the cup after not playing well.

thought it was a good battle in the middle of the park yesterday between alan mcdonnell and stevie gavin, both very determined players.

think the never say die attitude with the s&f players got them through yesterday, alan mc keepin his team on there toes and never letting the score get to the players. the boro had more attacking options than s&f, there 2 strikers played very well, they caused alot of problems for the s&f back 4.

but all in all good game, good to see 2 different teams in it.

well done to both clubs, and well done to s&f and a great season..

[threefivetwo]

fair play to both clubs on getting to the final, a good session was had monday with both sets of players in the castle!! :) we'd all wanna watch out next year though lads, according to leveller there's only 1 team in mayo so none of us have a chance!!!!

[Cloggs]

congrats to s and f on winning the cup final last week.they've had a tremendous year throughout the season and fully deserve the plaudits they get.hard luck to snugboro but i'm sure that they'll be back again next year and will build on their achievements from this year

[GoodFootball]

fair play to both clubs on getting to the final, a good session was had monday with both sets of players in the castle!! :) we'd all wanna watch out next year though lads, according to leveller there's only 1 team in mayo so none of us have a chance!!!!

...the super league is now a 4 tier:

Westport
---------
Celtic
Ballina
S&F
Snugboro
---------
Erris
Ballyheane
Manulla
---------
Bangor Hibs
Fahy

There is a difference in quality between all sections. Obviuosly when we prove ourselves we'll join Westport in the top tier :D

[Cloggs]

...the super league is now a 4 tier:

Westport
---------
Celtic
Ballina
S&F
Snugboro
---------
Erris
Ballyheane
Manulla
---------
Bangor Hibs
Fahy

There is a difference in quality between all sections. Obviuosly when we prove ourselves we'll join Westport in the top tier :D

i think that its a bit premature putting s and f in the 2nd tier of your version of how the super league breaks down.granted they've had a great season this year and will probably do really well in the super league next year but the jury will be out on them at that level until they prove themselves consistently in the super league next year.