Delaney Out!

[A face]

Face that's just not true that he's not been seen all year at LOI games, I've just told you he was at the Blues game at the weekend, I said hello to the chap. He's been at several this season in fact.
I love that 'make an example' too. Who's going to make an example of him, and to whom? Who has the right to make such a punishment? Not you. You make me laugh with your obsessional dislike of the man. No balance there at all, so no point in discussing it.

Did i single out Delaney? Did you read my post properly? Do you need to read it again? Do you need as assistance in reading it?

[pete]

The complete, total and utter destruction of Kildare County.

Not sure if that is really under the remit of the FAI but sign me up. I am still bitter about years of driving through the hell holes of Monasterevin & Kildare Town pre motorway.

[stann]

Right, firstly:

Whatever about who is to blame historically, it is unthinkable that the head of a national association would not have as a priority the development of his country's domestic game.

To which you replied:

Agreed, and them having season tickets at english clubs and not be seen all year at LOI games is enough to have them stand down in my opinion.

Now as far as I'm aware our national association has only one head, so, yeah, I'd say you pretty much did single him out.
Whether you meant to is another thing, I can only go on what you write. Perhaps you need assistance with composition?

[stann]

Nothing to do with the FAI, sorry. And to be honest, since you consistently ignore what I post just so you can get digs in, this is the last you'll hear of it from me. And me from you.


Wrong - The LOI is of huge importance to Irish football, of course it is. How many of the new players progressed from Irish football - a lot, and more to come. Ignore it at your peril

I didn't say it wasn't, why would I? I said there's a lot more to Irish football than the eL. Again you highlighted it and again got it wrong. And I don't mean the international teams as you assumed, I mean the junior leagues, schoolboy and women's clubs, the whole shooting match that the FAI govern.



The UEFA licensing is a joke. Few countries signed upto it, and it hasnt worked, so whats your point here?

I think it will work in time, it may be painful, perhaps fatal to some clubs, but it will eventually work. You don't. Fair enough. Things couldn't have went on as they were going. At least it's something they tried. See below.


The underage set-up; Man:rolleyes: you give Delaney credit for underage football!! The FAI has underage comps and leagues set up for yonks, its nothing new.

Again, never said that either, I mentioned the new U-20 league, which as far as I'm aware IS new this season. Maybe you know better.


i rubbished it to highlight your nonsense - The FAI have and ARE rubbish, always and never ending.

Is the LOI looked after well enough under the FAI? No, of course not.

Don't necessarily disagree with either of those, never have.
But what I said from the start, that you insist on missing is that Delaney has done better by the league than most of his predecessors, has tried out a few new things, or at least overseen the trying out of them, and seems to want to slowly sort things out. Whether it's enough, or quick enough, is not the point as it's not what I said.

[TonyD]

Removing Delaney suggests that it will fix all our problems - it is like a political party looking for new leader without looking at policies. The FAI needs stability & Delaney is the best option right now. The FAI is a much better run organisation especially commercially. He can be blamed for Staunton appointment not not necessarily the results but it also time to move on.

The Uefa Cup final is easily attainable & short of riots on the streets a good PR coup for the FAI as would give considerable exposure.

In fairness, much of the instability of the recent past can be traced back to the same Delaney beavering away in the background undermining the last few CEO's so he could have the job for himself. That's my main problem with the guy to be honest. His main project seems to me to be to promote the cause of John Delaney. I'd imagine that he has his sights set on a prime job in UEFA eventually, which I'm sure getting the UEFA final to Landsdowne couldn't hurt.

Having said that I wouldn't particularly knock him for what he's done for the League(judged against the others who've held his post in the recent past), though obviously I'd want the FAI to do more. As far as I'm concerned improving the League should be priority no 1 for the FAI. Any football country worth it's salt should have a strong domestic league as it's backbone. What's the point in developing schoolboys otherwise, to send them all off to England, where 80/90% of them will be sent back home branded failures ? The option of playing in a strong domestice league would make a huge difference to these 19 & 20 year olds.

[stann]

Having said that I wouldn't particularly knock him for what he's done for the League(judged against the others who've held his post in the recent past),

Spot on.


though obviously I'd want the FAI to do more. As far as I'm concerned improving the League should be priority no 1 for the FAI. Any football country worth it's salt should have a strong domestic league as it's backbone. What's the point in developing schoolboys otherwise, to send them all off to England, where 80/90% of them will be sent back home branded failures ? The option of playing in a strong domestice league would make a huge difference to these 19 & 20 year olds.

Would agree with much of that too, though with the caveat that the way things have evolved here over the years is a very special and unusual case compared to other countries. I'd say the biggest problem you'd face with that is convincing the players themselves (and their mentors) that they'd be better off staying here.

[corkboy360]

Get him out hes a clown and looks like doogle

[CuanaD]

Delaney out?
I just can't believe it!



No self respecting gay would ever have THAT hair cut!


:D

[A face]

Agreed, and them having season tickets at english clubs and not be seen all year at LOI games is enough to have them stand down in my opinion.


Now as far as I'm aware our national association has only one head, so, yeah, I'd say you pretty much did single him out.

Singled him out even though 'them' refers to more than one, plural (http://www.roythezebra.com/reading-games-lesson-plans/lesson-plan-singular-or-plural.html) if you like. Oh dear !! :rolleyes:


Perhaps you need assistance with composition?

Nah you're alright, thats great thanks cheers !! ;)

[Straightstory]

I think Delaney does work hard, but his priority should be to do something to the save the league, which is dying a slow death. A country's league is far more important than it's national team. As for the UEFA Cup Final in Lansdowne - that's just vanity on his part.

[Dodge]

I think Delaney does work hard, but his priority should be to do something to the save the league, which is dying a slow death

:rolleyes:

The FAI have put in fairly strong criteria for clubs to be a memebr of the league. They include having decent stadiums, decent schoolboy set ups and to be solvent.

If the clubs lie and **** themselves up, what can the FAi do except remove those clubs (and be slated for it in all probablilty)

The FAI have tried to professionalise the league recently but too many club aren't willing to move up. They've tried to put in financial safeguards but too many clubs are willing to try and get round them

I still don't think the FAI does enough for the league but the majority of the problems within the league are the fault of club directors.

[pineapple stu]

While I agree with you that clubs are ultimately responsible for the mess they're in, there's lots of clubs insolvent according to their most recent accounts, and the FAI have done nothing about it (as far as I can see anyway). Clubs are supposed to capitalise directors' loans, and this hasn't been done. They've not found cunning ways around it; they've just ignored the FAI. I'd blame the FAI for not enforcing their rules, which sound great on paper or in posts like that.

[Dodge]

But its the damned if you do... factor. If Cork are thrown out, it will reflect badly on the FAI adn the league. The fact that its the right and proper thing to do doesn't really help. And again, the fact they overspent (etc etc) isn't their fault...

The main problem I have with the FAI is their complete lack of pro-active PR.

[pineapple stu]

Agree. Just saying there's no point saying the FAI have set up financial safeguards when they ignore them themselves.

[Dodge]

Agree. Just saying there's no point saying the FAI have set up financial safeguards when they ignore them themselves.

They haven't really though. Some clubs were warned they were getting close to 65% and transfer embargo put on them. The directors loan thing was always going to be fudged as the FAI can't be seeking direct investment and then only include lump sum payments up front

[pineapple stu]

Some clubs were warned they were getting close to 65% and transfer embargo put on them.
Were they warned or were they severaly warned? You'll forgive my scepticism over that phrase!

[John83]

Were they warned or were they severaly warned? You'll forgive my scepticism over that phrase!
It's always hard to tell, but there's certainly a structure there to keep an eye on it - regular reports to an accountant and a committee to dole out punishments (and I've heard a few people mention these, so they are actually happening, I think). If there have actually been transfer embargoes put in place, then it's progress and commendable.

As a measure though, it's undermined by the licensing body's seeming indifference to insolvent clubs operating at a loss.

[Dodge]

There was definitely a transfer embargo placed on Galway.

[Mr A]

And Sligo if I recall correctly?

[pineapple stu]

Fair enough so.

[stann]

Singled him out even though 'them' refers to more than one, plural (http://www.roythezebra.com/reading-games-lesson-plans/lesson-plan-singular-or-plural.html) if you like. Oh dear !! :rolleyes:

Oh dear is right.
Though in fairness, despite acting otherwise, I suspect you do actually know that 'them' can, and regularly does, refer to one person also.

But here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them), just for you:
"Them is the English third person accusative (i.e., used after a preposition or as the object of a verb) plural personal pronoun. They is the nominative form (i.e., subject of a phrase). Them is sometimes also used in the singular as the accusative form of the singular they. (See also: English personal pronouns)."

If you say you were talking about more than one person (even though BohDiddley plainly referred to just one) than that's fine. It's not what you wrote though, that's the point. And the reputation of your low opinion of this individual sort of precedes you. :)
I think we're gone a tad OT on this one now though.

[bennocelt]

Nothing to do with the FAI, sorry. And to be honest, since you consistently ignore what I post just so you can get digs in, this is the last you'll hear of it from me. And me from you.



I didn't say it wasn't, why would I? I said there's a lot more to Irish football than the eL. Again you highlighted it and again got it wrong. And I don't mean the international teams as you assumed, I mean the junior leagues, schoolboy and women's clubs, the whole shooting match that the FAI govern.




I think it will work in time, it may be painful, perhaps fatal to some clubs, but it will eventually work. You don't. Fair enough. Things couldn't have went on as they were going. At least it's something they tried. See below.



Again, never said that either, I mentioned the new U-20 league, which as far as I'm aware IS new this season. Maybe you know better.




Don't necessarily disagree with either of those, never have.
But what I said from the start, that you insist on missing is that Delaney has done better by the league than most of his predecessors, has tried out a few new things, or at least overseen the trying out of them, and seems to want to slowly sort things out. Whether it's enough, or quick enough, is not the point as it's not what I said.

point is - is the LOi well promoted, is it a viable league, do enough people know or care about it --------- and isnt it Delaneys job to care about all this...........
I dont think he does, he is a moron, and politican, and just another smarmy celtic tiger creation

[A face]

But here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them), just for you

Ahh sure that Wikipedia .... c'mon ...... i mean everybody knows you cant trust Wikipedia ..... its not worth the paper its written on like ;)


And the reputation of your low opinion of this individual sort of precedes you.

I'm shocked and stunned ..... i'm grappling with this injustice and slur on my character, i mean i think the guy is a sound bloke ;)

But get back to it ...... i'd apply it to all beyond the green door, the purveyors and administrators of our game. Its a huge contradiction imo and something that should not be let away lightly. If its a witch hunt by a wild rabid mob to dole out some justice then i'd be all for it ;)