Injuries

[Condex]

J O'Brien and Kil;bane went off injured today...:eek:

[irishultra]

Kilbane is out. Dissapointing but no big deal. McShane in the middle and O'Shea at left back.

[shakermaker1982]

Can't we have Delaney at LB and leave O'Shea back at the hotel? Until he finds a club who will play him every week in a set position he's of little use to us. The guy is wasting his career away.

[neville neville]

Can't we have Delaney at LB and leave O'Shea back at the hotel? Until he finds a club who will play him every week in a set position he's of little use to us. The guy is wasting his career away.

Wasting his career away with his vast collection of winners medals??????


Anyway, I'd leave O'Shea where he is, and play Delaney there. Praying that Dunne comes through tomorrow unhurt

[shakermaker1982]

Wasting his career away with his vast collection of winners medals??????


Anyway, I'd leave O'Shea where he is, and play Delaney there. Praying that Dunne comes through tomorrow unhurt

other than scoring that goal at the kop end a few seasons back he has contributed very little to Man Utd's recent achievements. He comes on for 15minutes when Fergie is trying to conserve the energy of Giggs and Scholes but that is about it. He should head to Everton/Blackburn/Wigan or whoever will take him and make a position his own instead of filling in for United where required. Then again he's probably happy earning £40k a week, pulling the odd wag and picking up a medal because he has just scraped the minimum number of league games to qualify.

[irishultra]

Sorry. Yeah Delaney at left back.

[boovidge]

other than scoring that goal at the kop end a few seasons back he has contributed very little to Man Utd's recent achievements. He comes on for 15minutes when Fergie is trying to conserve the energy of Giggs and Scholes but that is about it. He should head to Everton/Blackburn/Wigan or whoever will take him and make a position his own instead of filling in for United where required. Then again he's probably happy earning £40k a week, pulling the odd wag and picking up a medal because he has just scraped the minimum number of league games to qualify.

He's been playing alot so far for Man Utd this season. I don't see how it would make a significant amount of difference if he played more often for a smaller club. He'd still get into the squad hands down.

[mark12345]

Can't we have Delaney at LB and leave O'Shea back at the hotel? Until he finds a club who will play him every week in a set position he's of little use to us. The guy is wasting his career away.

O'Shea is of little use to us. Just count the amount of bad passes he makes for United, and he is totally out of his depth when the play gets intricate. O'Shea and McShane in the same defence is really scary.

[elroy]

For whats its work O'Shea has played alot more for united the last few games than normal, mainly because of injuries but he should be match fit as a result. I think Kilbane is a loss, can never doubt his commitment and he seems to be doing a good job at left back, is he def out??

With Duff gone we cant afford too many others. Hopefully the hat trick for Doyle will be him in good stead for next week. We need some other than just Keano getting the goals.

[Crosby87]

He should head to Everton/Blackburn/Wigan or whoever will take him and make a position his own instead of filling in for United where required.

Who would rather play for Everton than Manchester United?

[Razors left peg]

O'Shea is of little use to us. Just count the amount of bad passes he makes for United, and he is totally out of his depth when the play gets intricate. O'Shea and McShane in the same defence is really scary.

Was it really that scary when the 2 of them played together against the Czechs in Landsdown... O Shea is a decent player and the abuse he gets on this site from some people is ridiculous

[Wexford Delboy]

kilbane is out DELIGHTED:D:D

[shakermaker1982]

Who would rather play for Everton than Manchester United?

if you were a professional footballer would you rather play 90 minutes every week or 90 minutes a month?

[Hibs4Ever]

Who would rather play for Everton than Manchester United?



Tim Howard

[Hibs4Ever]

kilbane is out DELIGHTED:D:D



Stupid post :rolleyes:

[boovidge]

kilbane is out DELIGHTED:D:D

Yeah perhaps we can get Stephen Ireland in instead :rolleyes:

[shakermaker1982]

Tim Howard

and Phil Neville!!!

*plus maybe Saha if he signs today.

[OwlsFan]

kilbane is out DELIGHTED:D:D

:rolleyes: Did you read the interview in the Sunday Indo. A real credit to the team and the country:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/the-game-has-changed-and-i-dont-like-a-lot-of-the-things-i-see-the-attitude-of-some-players-1466377.html

[seanfhear]

:rolleyes: Did you read the interview in the Sunday Indo. A real credit to the team and the country:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/the-game-has-changed-and-i-dont-like-a-lot-of-the-things-i-see-the-attitude-of-some-players-1466377.html
Kevin is a credit to his family and to his country and a great example to any young person.I admire and respect Kevin kilbane as much as any footballer that has played for Ireland.

[mjpcc]

Hear Hear

[Stuttgart88]

I read the article yesterday too & thought exactly the same. What a top bloke.

[jbyrne]

kilbane is out DELIGHTED:D:D

you must be confused, this is a site for people who actually have the Irish teams best interests at heart

[Wexford Delboy]

wud rather see delaney play..kilbane has given his service 2 dis country and a very good service at that i jus thinki its delaneys chance

[Wolfie]

Check this out!!!!! Sure its only a fractured cheek bone - I'm grand!!

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3506

[tetsujin1979]

Hard as a coffin nail, take that John Terry!

[Lionel Ritchie]

wud rather see delaney play..kilbane has given his service 2 dis country and a very good service at that i jus thinki its delaneys chance

Not sure how you racked up 20 posts without a shot across the bows WD but lay off the Nokia speak or be reported ...choices, choices. :ball:

[spin]

Gotta agree...Zinedine has given sterling service down the years. He might never set the world alight, but he'll always stand up and be counted. Hopefully they can give him a mask like Gary Mabbutt had a few years back when fash the bash tried to rearrange his face for him. If he plays it'll be something like his 1,057th consecutive competitive international for the boysingreen...that is something to be proud of.

Any idea what's happening re. tickets yet?

[youngirish]

Bring Delaney in instead of Kilbane and leave O'Shea where he is. As much as I agree with shakermaker regarding the merits or lack thereof of the inclusion of JOS the sad fact of the matter is that we have nobody better in the current squad to replace him at centre back. An unfit Paul McShane lacking any sharpness having played no football this season is the stuff of horror movies.

[drummerboy]

I want Kilbane to play. You know what you get, good solid performance. I would have to reach for the valium if McShane is playing.

[seanfhear]

I want Kilbane to play. You know what you get, good solid performance. I would have to reach for the valium if McShane is playing.
I dont want to be negative but if you had McShane and O`Shea in a back four you would need the valium.

[tetsujin1979]

I dont want to be negative but if you had McShane and O`Shea in a back four you would need the valium.
the last time we played McShane and O'Shea in a back four, we drew with the Czechs. But for a mistake by O'Shea, we would have won, and McShane was MOTM.

[Supreme feet]

the last time we played McShane and O'Shea in a back four, we drew with the Czechs. But for a mistake by O'Shea, we would have won, and McShane was MOTM.

They partnered each other at CB for the Cyprus game at home too. Dunne was suspended.

[geysir]

RTE report that KK is expected to be fit.

[FarBeag]

atta boy Killer, that's what we like to hear! :D

I was very opposed to Kilbane in midfield as him being there meant someone with talent was left out but at left Kilbane is a very competent player and in reality we have nobody better. This nonsense with regard to Delaney of "giving him a chance" in a major world cup qualifier away from home is insane. I mean what the hell are you thinking giving some unproven QPR scrub a crucial position on our team over an 88 capped reliable servant???
This isn't a friendly against the reserves, this is the real deal. If Delaney decieded to bottle it even just once during the game he could screw over our entire campaign, this is not the time to be messing around with selections.


Coming from you i will take your insult on Delaney with a pinch of salt, but wtf is a scrub supposed to be?

[jbyrne]

the last time we played McShane and O'Shea in a back four, we drew with the Czechs. But for a mistake by O'Shea, we would have won, and McShane was MOTM.

henderson, mcshane and oshea were all at fault for that goal

[tetsujin1979]

henderson, mcshane and oshea were all at fault for that goal
I'll blame O'Shea all day and all night for that goal. He passed the ball back to the Czechs, the turned his back on the free kick taker. McShane was still out of position, and Henderson had no time to organise a wall. One quickly taken free kick later (with O'Shea still not facing the ball) and Carew was one on one with McShane.
McShane and Henderson made mistakes, but it was still O'Shea's fault.

[Calcio Jack]

I'll blame O'Shea all day and all night for that goal. He passed the ball back to the Czechs, the turned his back on the free kick taker. McShane was still out of position, and Henderson had no time to organise a wall. One quickly taken free kick later (with O'Shea still not facing the ball) and Carew was one on one with McShane.
McShane and Henderson made mistakes, but it was still O'Shea's fault.

Your reference to Carew being involved sums up why your memory is not the best as to what happened..the real culprits were McShane firstly because he didn't close down Koller (Carew) and Colgan who demonstrated in that moment why he's never had a career at top level by getting his angles all wrong.

[shakermaker1982]

look at the team we put out against the Czech's in that home game (ps who's Colgan Calcio?!):

Republic of Ireland 4-4-1-1 Henderson; Kelly, McShane, O'Shea, Finnan; Carsley·, Douglas·, Kilbane· (Alan O'Brien, 79), Duff; A Reid (Quinn, 71); Keane.

only 4 (in bold) look like they will play in the double header.

Given, Finnan, Dunne, O'Shea, Kilbane, McGeady, S Reid, Whelan, Hunt, Keane and Doyle looks a lot stronger on paper.

[eirebhoy]

Your reference to Carew being involved sums up why your memory is not the best as to what happened..the real culprits were McShane firstly because he didn't close down Koller (Carew) and Colgan who demonstrated in that moment why he's never had a career at top level by getting his angles all wrong.
One of the most ironic posts I've seen on here. :D ;)

[Kingdom]

Your reference to Carew being involved sums up why your memory is not the best as to what happened..the real culprits were McShane firstly because he didn't close down Koller (Carew) and Colgan who demonstrated in that moment why he's never had a career at top level by getting his angles all wrong.

It was Henderson Calcio. Not so smug now :D

[Stuttgart88]

laughing out loud at that one!

[Calcio Jack]

It was Henderson Calcio. Not so smug now :D

Hands up I made an error although I still stand by main point ie McShane and the goalie were most at fault.

[youngirish]

I'll blame O'Shea all day and all night for that goal. He passed the ball back to the Czechs, the turned his back on the free kick taker. McShane was still out of position, and Henderson had no time to organise a wall. One quickly taken free kick later (with O'Shea still not facing the ball) and Carew was one on one with McShane.
McShane and Henderson made mistakes, but it was still O'Shea's fault.

I agree. O'Shea also gave away the initial free kick if memory serves me correctly though I'm happy to stand corrected so he's even more to blame when that fact is added.

It was Koller btw not Carew.

[jbyrne]

I agree. O'Shea also gave away the initial free kick if memory serves me correctly though I'm happy to stand corrected so he's even more to blame when that fact is added.

It was Koller btw not Carew.

that free kick was nearly on the half way line. the whole team had fallen asleep after the over-celebration of kilbanes goal over at the dug-out

[tetsujin1979]

It was Koller btw not Carew.
thanks, it's been pointed out a few times.
My mistake, don't know what made me think of Carew.
I was at the game as well too, at the other end of the ground, which makes it worse

[tetsujin1979]

The goal is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDtiYYZjPvY
on about 2:30
Make your own mind up

[eirebhoy]

McShane's "fault" was not taking the ball off Koller or blocking the shot. Hardly what I'd call a fault. He did all he could 1 on 1 against the giant. There's a reason Trap rates McShane pretty highly. He has seen all his games for Ireland and I'm guessing very little of him for Sunderland. If you're going to fault McShane for goals like Koller's then he has no chance.

[OwlsFan]

Dreadful miss by Robbie with the header.

Goal McShane's fault for getting too close to his man. Keeper might have narrowed the angle a bit more as well.

[irishultra]

We are so bad at missing chances. Duff looked class in those highlights.

On McShane I think he did well, he forced Koller out wide, the only thing he could have put his leg out in anticipation for the shot.

[tetsujin1979]

OwlsFan, by that logic should McShane have stood off Koller? Then he would have had a free run straight into the penalty area, and a definite goal.
Even with the difference in height and weight, McShane managed to force him out wide. He could make a tackle because it would have been a definite penalty, and a red card.