QuoteGreens & Alliance have very smaller numbers like down here so relatively insignificant as no chance of getting into a coalition like in the Republic.
That's not strictly true. Half of the UUP's drop seems to have shifted to the DUP and half of it seems to have shifted towards some sort of "normalization" in the extra seats for the Greens and the Alliance. The UUP's collapse can't be read as a massive shift to the extreme but a general lack of confidence in the party. It seems the so called Gold Coast is moving towards somewhat of a normalisation. You've also seen a collapse in the vote for complete radical anti-agreement fringe unionism, McCartney lost his only seat and his stupid multi-constituency plan totally failed.Originally Posted by pete
I can. In the last up and running assembley it worked quite well on bread and butter issues. After decomissioning and now a tacit agreement to sign up to policing the DUP have nearly run out of things to block power sharing. I think if they can't reach an agreement soon the next election will see power shift away from them again. People will vote for them now while there's still some negotiating to be done, just like SF's vote has increased while they whole the cards, but people are going to get very p'd off with bread and butter issues not being dealt with, hence you're already seeing a groth in vote for the Alliance and Greens.I can't see devolution working.
I don't see any harm in that, I think the Northern parties have also played their cards well in that they've tried to get as good a financial deal as possible by dragging their feet.The governments are basically trying to bribe them with "funding".
All parties want to wield the power, it's an attractive proposition. It's not in the DUP's interests to see the deadline missed. It'll give the Irish government a strong hand in implementing the GFA with the British government and that is not something that branch of Unionism is fond of. I really feel things will drift back to the UUP if it's let hang too long. Obviously there are some voters who would like that but at one time the UUP had the majority Unionist electorate behind them in trying to reach an agreement and implement devolution.Even if they do get their act together this month its only a matter of time before it collapses again.
I wouldn't say that. The UUP, SDLP, Alliance and Greens are heavy pro-devolution votes. I'd also say most Sinn Fein votes would be considered pro-devolution. The only party that hasn't given a clear message of heading into powerhsharing it the DUP. They still only represent a large minority.You'd swear NI voters did not want to be governed locally & I see the logic in that...
People are getting sick of the limbo dragging on while normal issues of everyday life and not governed effectively.63% turnout its bad considering the history...
You must know UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party), Kilroy-Silk's former party. They're somewhere between the BNP and Tories. They favour a full widthdrawal of the UK from the EU but without the racist overtones of the BNP.Who are these parties? Can you be called a party if get 0.1% of the National Vote? The ProC who ever muct not even have more than 22 members & friends...
UKIP 0 1,229
PBP 0 774
Soc 0 0 473
WP 0 0 975
LP 0 0 123
MPH 0 221
ProC 0 22
Is LP the Labour Party?
Greens & Alliance have very smaller numbers like down here so relatively insignificant as no chance of getting into a coalition like in the Republic.
Just because neither party will hold a ministerial position it doesn't make it insignificant. The UUP first preference vote declined by nearly 8% of the national vote, the DUP only picked up 4.5% of that. The rest of it went to neutral parties. The Greens and Alliance are collectively up 3%. The last election suggested that the middle ground had been obliterated. I think if/when the Assembley is up and running you'll see the DUP vote decline. They're a catch all party with no clear agendas who flourish in time of hardball negotiations.
Btw, for impressive voter management, look at Sinn Fein's votes in West Belfast. Three candidates within 100 votes of each other, and a fourth within another few votes of that. They won 5 seats and managed to curb the temptation for Gerry Adams to rack up a huge first preference vote.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2...on/html/45.stm
ProC are the Pro-Capitalist Party.UUP lost 1/3 of its vote down to 15%
DUP now up top 30%
Those numbers point to massive shift from middle to extremes.
I can't see devolution working. The governments are basically trying to bribe them with "funding". Even if they do get their act together this month its only a matter of time before it collapses again. You'd swear NI voters did not want to be governed locally & I see the logic in that...
63% turnout its bad considering the history...
Who are these parties? Can you be called a party if get 0.1% of the National Vote? The ProC who ever muct not even have more than 22 members & friends...
UKIP 0 1,229
PBP 0 774
Soc 0 0 473
WP 0 0 975
LP 0 0 123
MPH 0 221
ProC 0 22
PBP is People Before Profit, a water charges issue ticket. I think they only ran in West Belfast.
Make Politicians History - MPH
People Before Profit Alliance - PBP
Procapitalism - PROC
Socialist Environmental Alliance - SEA
Socialist Party - Soc
United Kingdom Independence Party - UKIP
United Kingdom Unionist Party - UKUP
Workers Party - WP
PBP and SEA are both SWP fronts.
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
UKUP used to be noteworthy enough. The most anti-agreement anti-progress Unionist party, they even held a Westminister seat at one point. Their leader Bob McCartney ran in about 6 or 7 constituencies for this election. It seems if you win more than one seat you can nominate someone to take your place. The tactic failed miserably and they lost their only seat, Bob McCartney's. I think he's retired and I'd say they're consigned to the dustbin of history.
I always found Bob McCartney a very personable, likeable and intelligent guy despite profoundly disagreeing with his viewpoint on a good many things.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Come on now Pete!Who are these parties? Can you be called a party if get 0.1% of the National Vote? The ProC who ever muct not even have more than 22 members & friends...
ProC 0 22
I thought you were one of the 22 loony devoted separatists.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
I'm totally in favour of Cork seperatism!
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
You've blown my cover. Trying to bring Dublin down from the inside.
ÉIRE 31!I'm totally in favour of Cork seperatism!
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