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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    I would have thought if there is nothing in writing either in the contract or any other document then the players wouldn’t have any comeback.
    Either way, looking for bonuses for last years European “performances” made me laugh.
    Well verbal contracts are a thing but it just strikes me as not being the norm in this situation...or any situation really outside of sales between 2 private individuals. Not even sure how you would prove a verbal contract existed in court unless every player had the exact same story, bonus structure etc and had other witnesses to say it was an agreement between both sides etc. Just strikes me as something fishy happening as you would imagine any agent worth his salt would be making sure that all agreed bonuses are written into the contract before signing. Be interesting to see what the PFAI find anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    It's almost as if people didn't learn any lessons from previous clubs wildly spending money on their first team instead of investing in club structures.
    Yeah like wild Bill wasnt told that he was ripped off, and all local involvemnet in the club didnt resign in protest, while dignified charcters like Burton among others never rubbed their hands. 250k igning on fee is not normal behaviour even in LoI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    I would have thought if there is nothing in writing either in the contract or any other document then the players wouldn’t have any comeback.
    Either way, looking for bonuses for last years European “performances” made me laugh.
    Regardless of the heat we were dreadful in Gibraltar, lucky to get away with a draw, then got the 3-1 win at home, but it was 1-1 for a good bit. Enter the Icemen, we were shocking over there in a 3-1 defeat and probably didn't deserve to get a draw at home. Hoban was very poor in 3 of the 4 games too.

    Bonus payments indeed, unfortunately its for getting there, not actual games, seems poor form though if agreed and not paid.
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    Performanc related bonuses are to ensure olayers give it all and perform. They didnt! There may have been a bonus for qualifying i'd pull it for being ****/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Performanc related bonuses are to ensure olayers give it all and perform. They didnt!
    they won through a round and earned more money.

    Any more analysis than that shouldn't really be relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Performanc related bonuses are to ensure olayers give it all and perform. They didnt! There may have been a bonus for qualifying i'd pull it for being ****/1
    If their performances were sufficient enough to earn the club extra prize money then they should be sufficient enough to be given any bonus that was agreed.

    Results are and always will be the only basis to award football bonuses on. Performances are too subjective and would see clubs looking to not award bonuses based on crazy/tight owners definition of what a good performance was or wasn’t
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    If their performances were sufficient enough to earn the club extra prize money then they should be sufficient enough to be given any bonus that was agreed.

    Results are and always will be the only basis to award football bonuses on. Performances are too subjective and would see clubs looking to not award bonuses based on crazy/tight owners definition of what a good performance was or wasn’t
    It didn't do Dundee United any harm.

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    McLean, after all, withheld his side's £50 entertainment bonus after a 6-1 win over Motherwell a couple of seasons earlier, reasoning that, having scored four times in the opening 17 minutes, they did not do enough thereafter to keep the crowd engaged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    It didn't do Dundee United any harm.
    Different times, smoking a box of fags at halftime and living on a liquid diet of pints didn’t do them any harm back then either
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    If their performances were sufficient enough to earn the club extra prize money then they should be sufficient enough to be given any bonus that was agreed.

    Results are and always will be the only basis to award football bonuses on. Performances are too subjective and would see clubs looking to not award bonuses based on crazy/tight owners definition of what a good performance was or wasn’t
    Or maybe an aggrieved agent is putting spin on a clause, sort of like when the activation of a contract extension clause is disputed, or when accepted could try to add a new release clause. If it were an entire squad that had claims in....doesnt licencing deal with outstanding money to players from a previous season? Or maybe it was a hand shake drawn on a cigarette paper agreement. As for Zahibo coming knocking...well little surprises at Dundalk at the moment.

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    Most of the money Dundalk earned back in the day did go to the players.seems a couple of players not from then thought that the same "loose" contract from that era applied to them when it didn't.

    More annoying for me in the circumstances is that the club didn't pay local businesses invoices when they were due.
    Hopefully Ainscough etc is now on top of that issue.

    Can see somewhat why the former coo got his marching orders now.

    Don't pi*s off your local suppliers while saying you're a community club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    Most of the money Dundalk earned back in the day did go to the players.seems a couple of players not from then thought that the same "loose" contract from that era applied to them when it didn't.

    More annoying for me in the circumstances is that the club didn't pay local businesses invoices when they were due.
    Hopefully Ainscough etc is now on top of that issue.

    Can see somewhat why the former coo got his marching orders now.

    Don't pi*s off your local suppliers while saying you're a community club.
    You may have just mentioned the war!

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