p.s. I'd prefer a song with words something like "James McClean's a f####ng goal machine" than the current one doing the round which involves the head of State of the UK, including Wales. I am not sure many of the people singing the song realised how offensive that was to many Welsh people. It was also sung on the plane going home and at least two of the cabin crew were from the UK or perhaps I am just being a bit PC, although it does hark back to the days of a similar song involving Michael Fagan and the same person and their alleged intimate relationship!
Last edited by OwlsFan; 11/10/2017 at 11:36 AM.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Arter and Meyler interviewed on NewsTalk last night: https://cdn.radiocms.net/media/012/a...audio_file.mp3
That's his wife, Erin McClean (with a capital C ). - http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-36212231.html
It was sung over and over during the match, particularly after the goal, and was also sung on the streets of Cardiff. It's very widely-sung. I abstain from singing it but I reckon it's as loud as many of our other chants.
Wish we could have, as a group of supporters, come up with something that actually pays tribute to and demonstrates our appreciation for James' tireless workrate and goals. What's currently being sung doesn't do that- it just undermines the stances James has taken in relation to certain things i.e. the poppies.
That song and the Fields of Athenry are two songs I refrain from taking any part in. Both are pure dirge.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
I assumed that was family and friends of the players, as that was his wife Erin that he embraced.
The amount of stoppage time added on was ridiculous. Totally unwarranted. Where did the five minutes come from? And about eight minutes were eventually played. A cynic might think they were trying to help Bale along to a World Cup, although I do have to say that the ref was really poor for both sides.As the 90th minute approached, I guessed 5 minutes injury time as you could see he was adding on time for every slight delay.
You sure? I was pretty certain it went deep into a seventh minute. Meyler was booked in the sixth added minute and there was a bit more played after that. The BBC had full-time at 90'+7' in their live text updates: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41464154
I thought Martin could have used up the third substitution to kill some further time.
Some other interesting stats from the BBC:
And a graph showing the average positions of our players over 90 minutes:Originally Posted by BBC
We weren't as stuck in our own half as we'd been against Georgia in Tbilisi. We also had a bit more width on Monday night.
I wouldn’t be complaining about that Ref . McClean could have had two yellows . He got the Joe Allen accidental collision correct . He missed the accidental head collision of Brady .
Ok , I thought the Daryl Murphy yellow was wrong . He certainly did not do it on purpose .
Had we been Wales we would have expected 5 minutes of injury time .
I thought the ref was decent enough and, if anything, we definitely came out the better side of it, especially early on. We escaped a couple of yellows which a fussier referee might have given.
I remember Robbie Brady going through the back of Ben Davies a couple of minutes after Allen's deserved yellow for one. It was his second foul as well so I was expecting the yellow to come out. Christie was a bit clumsy and late going into a challenge with Andy King also. McClean and/or Meyler weren't booked either for the Joe Allen incident. McClean, in particular, might have been a little guilty here! Hard to know if he meant the nudge to cause harm but it definitely put Allen in a vulnerable position. Arter swung the leg at Lawrence as well, breaking up a quick counter attack after he had taken a heavy touch.
I can't really remember all the specifics, but I was expecting a decent amount of injury time too. Hendrick and Arter were both down for a while, as was Ben Davies. Clark & Randolph were both booked for time wasting. I think if the shoe was on the other foot we'd absolutely expect the referee to add a decent amount of time for these transgressions. The first minute at least was taken up with the Daryl Murphy substitution, as he made his way across from the other side of the pitch. Then McClean kicked Ramsey in the stomach after that!
Last edited by DeLorean; 11/10/2017 at 3:48 PM.
Are yellow cards wiped for the playoffs?
Says they still count on Wiki so...maybe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_F...3_UEFA_Group_D
Actually if you watch the video, it is Hendrick who points out Williams to the keeper!!
Here at about 7 seconds. Pretty stupid, a keeper taking directions from the opposition, but blame on Williams too, he could have done better
there and made it easier for the keeper to release the ball.
Williams was poor even after the event.
Last edited by tricky_colour; 11/10/2017 at 6:41 PM.
I don't think Hendrick is pointing out Williams to the keeper....I believe he's signalling to teammates behind him that he is marking Williams and is aware that he's there so they don't double up.
Of course I could be wrong. Thanks for sharing the video though. Great moment and what a strike.
I agree. Surely we are past this sort of chip on the shoulder stuff.
I can see why there might be some references to the various political controversies he has been involved in as part of a hypothetical song but the one being sung about him isn't remotely subtle.
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
I'm sorry Sean i don't see anything about it in here.
http://resources.fifa.com/mm/documen...en_neutral.pdf
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