QuoteHe managed to fit in a dig at Dunphy.
Also has anyone heard "school for gaffers" on the new Gift Grub? Quality stuff.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1779
One of the oddest articles you'll read this year. By the tone I'd guess it was either written by Robbie Keane or Staunton himself
He managed to fit in a dig at Dunphy.
Also has anyone heard "school for gaffers" on the new Gift Grub? Quality stuff.
What I will say is that although we could have finished higher, 3rd is about our level with the group we have. Also, maybe its good someone has stuck up for Stan, i'd like to see him get another job and succeed.
Hear Hear , the man is gone now and I wish nothing but the best for him in his future career.Originally Posted by livehead1
Would you be happy to take him at Sligo
Would you be happy to take him at Sligo
I'm happy with Cookie so the question is irrelevant
Great player for Ireland. I hope he proves himself as a manager. Good Luck Stan.
He still thinks he did a decent job?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1779
One of the oddest articles you'll read this year. By the tone I'd guess it was either written by Robbie Keane or Staunton himself
Why do you mention Robbie Keane?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1779
One of the oddest articles you'll read this year. By the tone I'd guess it was either written by Robbie Keane or Staunton himself
Good luck to Stan wherever he goes. Decent man. Not a great manager (so far).
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I would guess something to do with his whingefest on the late late?
It´s interesting enough article
He more compares his stint with the job Bertie Vogts did for Scotland which is fair enough but he thinks Bertie did a good job.
And that as a result of his stint bringing in new players
"Why do you think so many people want the Ireland job now? They weren't queuing up for it two years ago, were they? Top managers aren't stupid, they can see what's coming."
it could be more to do with a 150% salary rise
Sometimes it worked with McShane and Douglas V the Czechs and sometimes it flopped spectacularily with McGeady and with McShane against Wales. Most can appreciate the pitfalls around selecting new players, some were forced to be blooded but the real weakness to the team were made by Stan elsewhere in team selections and positioning.
Clearly he wasn´t prepared for the vitriol and clearly he didn´t know how to deal with it.
"mind you, what I'm doing now - actually no matter what course I did - would have prepared me for the two years I had with Ireland".
Nothing prepared us either for what we had to endure.
The future football wise for the fearless ambitious Stan may be alright, the perception of him is that he was thrown in too early and will have learnt something. He is good with young players. A couple of years working with a good reserve team under a good manager could be just the ticket he needs.
You gotta love these comments:
"So great was the expectation in his homeland that the rookie was expected to overhaul Germany (fifth in the FIFA rankings) and the Czech Republic (6th) to reach next year's finals."
"I spoke to my counterparts in Germany and the Czech Republic. They couldn't believe how the Ireland team was perceived in its' own country."
This whole 'Unrealistic expectations' natter about Ireland gets on my nerves. No one had huge expectations for the national side in the last campaign. I didn't think we would qualify. What we did expect was a team to put it up to the big boys, beat the minnows (fairly easily) and be in with a shout of qualification near the end. The fact that we got thrid place, miles behind the top two is meant to be some sort of achievement to these people.
I was talking to a few Scottish and English friends of mine and expressed my displeasure at Venables being in line for the Irish job. They couldn't understand the criticsim and reckon we have a cheek to be so picky when our team is so bad. The whole 'unrealistic expectations' came up.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
God the poor man has been made so unemployable
Last edited by Theskinloyal; 12/01/2008 at 1:27 PM.
Didn't see it. Whingefest or loyalty as captain to his manager?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Finally, the "gaffur" speaks. However:
- No sign of an apology for the train wreck of a qualifying campaign.
- No sign of an apology to the lads who paid €700+, and travel for 5 hours to watch our "performances" in Cyprus and Slovakia, to the souls who had to put up with sleet and snow for the San Marino trip (because he didn't want us playing in June
- 16 players were handed 1st caps. Now imagine what a decent manager could achieve with them in the team, and not by amongst other things, playing them, by choice, out of position.
- He lost 1 game in the last 12. Porr diddums. Germany and the Czechs finished with 1 defeat from the last 12 too, only they're going somewhere next summer, while we're only going to the tv.
- More "unrealistic expectations" crap too. We were apparantly "expected" to overhaul those above us in the world rankings. Our expectations is that we be competitive. Finishing 10 points behind second place is not competitive, it's a surrender.
An ambitious boss, who's competent, driven, and doesn't spin/bullsht his way through the job, is capable of getting those players and that side to be competitive at international level. He wasn't, that's why he ain't doing it anymore.
Last edited by mypost; 12/01/2008 at 7:59 PM.
I don't think I can recall a more incompetent individual in football.
It's the comment that he is bemused at losing his job. My God everyone was bemused at how he kept it so long. Is it that he is simply stupid?
I don't appreciate him walking away with a hand out either, a pay off for being the most incompetent manager we have had in living memory. He failed to show a scrap of decency in the end.
Worst. Article. Ever. Lies, damn, lies and then statistics.
Agreed. The article completely spins how he did for us. He should have some humility and admit that he wasn't up to the job or that it was too early for him. This notion of us having unrealistic expectations is a joke. It's completely disrespectful to the fans who paid good money. How did we go from just having to win our last game to get a play off place to being out of contention with 3 games to go. It's also disrespectful to Kerr and his tenure.
I tried to add some comments to the comments box at the bottom of the article. But funnily enough because they were critical (Not too bad that they couldnt be posted, just a list of some of his obvious mistakes) they are have not been posted.
Newtown Celtic FC RIP (1992-2007)
I was in stitches reading this laughing at some of his ridiculous comments like,"we never lost a competitive fixture at home and never looked like losing either",he must have forgotten about Steve Finnan's injury time equaliser at home to Cyprus then or at least have expected it and he go's on to talk about how Eddie O'Sullivan gave him great tips like "he told me we'd need to get a smaller bus so it would fit under the stand at croker" hahahahahahahahahahaha
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