QuotePenalty for Wales for shirt-pulling.
Guess it depends if you're optimistic or pessimistic.
I still can't see that we're good enough to top the group, so I'm happy to maximise the gap back to third.
Penalty for Wales for shirt-pulling.
Wow, what a cool penalty from Aaron Ramsey. 1-0 to Wales.
OMG I was gonna back Wales to win (at 6-1) but I realised the game has started and Wales are 1-0 up so mixed feelings there and of course the game is far from over.
Joe Allen has received a booking and will be suspended for Wales' next game, which is at home to Austria.
Serbia equalise through Mitrović with 15 minutes to go.
Georgian midfielder Kanakava suspended for the game against us in September. Not sure how much of a difference that makes, but he seems to be a regular player for them
finishes 1-1 in Serbia. All games finished level in the group, so we're where we were this morning. Looking like we'll need to go to Cardiff needing a result to finish top of the group, which is what I wanted to avoid.
Serbia-Wales ends up 1-1 and Serbia return to the top of the group, pretty much as things were before today's round of games except each team has an extra point.
Still in our hands. Can we beat Serbia at home?
Hopefully Wales-Austria is a draw next up.
Big win for Turkey vs Kosovo as well.
Don't think they are better than the Bosnian team we beat in the playoff to qualify for the Euros. Of course we can beat them, but I presume they will be given the same unmerited respect that Austria were given today with us drawing in the end.Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Last edited by TrapAPony; 11/06/2017 at 8:53 PM.
"We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo
Everything very much in the balance, big game v Serbia, hard to predict the results between the top 4 but the draws are coming through thick and fast.
A win v Serbia would been nice but after today's performance it is hard to see us knocking six past them, I would not bet my trailer on them.
Last edited by tricky_colour; 11/06/2017 at 8:59 PM.
I'm afraid that's how I envisage it as well. It's really disappointing that we're not two points out in front after today.
Tiebreaker rules could have a lot to say in this group yet. It goes 1) Goal diff 2) Goals scored 3) H2H
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_–_UEFA_Group_D
If it were H2H and we beat Serbia, Georgia, Moldova, would've clinched top spot and the Wales game would've been meaningless.
But with Goal diff as first tie breaker, we could win those three, then lose to Wales and still get pipped by Serbia on goal diff.
Not that you'd expect Ireland to be home and dry with anything to spare, but looks like every game and goal in the run in will be critical.
Suppose (considering the tie breaker rules) there could be a scenario where we draw with Serbia, match their results in the remaining games, and overturn the 2 goal lead they currently have on goal dif to top group.
Wouldn't want to bank on us outscoring them.
Well we are 2 goals behind Serbia but if we beat them 1-0 that brings us level, however I am sure they will have scored more than
us, who hasn't?
But we have lots of football to play, we might not even beat Georgia, Wales didn't.
Going to Cardiff with the group already won always seemed a bit fanciful but it's still a realistic possibility. Obviously we'll need to beat Serbia and avoid any slips against Georgia and Moldova, but there's every chance Austria will do us a favour when they host Serbia too.
Last edited by DeLorean; 13/06/2017 at 1:23 PM.
Serbia look the best team by a solid distance but they aren't a Germany or Spain. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they could draw to Georgia or Moldova. Unlikely but possible.
I believe the group will come down to goal difference though.
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