I seen an article in a Catholic newspaper that Richard Dawkins of "The God Delusion" fame has been spotted at Mass.I will try and scan the article from the newspaper because their website only provides the headline of it and not the actual full article.but here is the link where the headline is anyway:http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/news_index.html.
I hope that works.
If so its an incredible turnaround for a guy who a few months ago was having bitter arguments with David Quinn in particular about the exsistence of God.It reminds me a bit of that Roe woman in the united states who was responsible for getting abortion legalised but had a change of heart and is now campaigning for it to be overturned.
Not a fan of Dawkins but I wouldn't take a Catholic Newspaper saying he's converted as anything other than nonsense to try and discredit the man. Doubt Dawkins would ever change his opinion about anything, let alone his cash cow beliefs.
Either way Dawkins has been doing enough to discredit himself lately, what with his 'the Jews are running a America' statements
Um, one of the other front page articles on that website is "Pope's life told through the eyes of a cat". Hello?
Read the article - there appears to be such a book.Originally Posted by dahamsta
It's been widely reported elsewhere on the internet.Mgr Gänswein assured readers that he knows Pope Benedict well and that the words author Jeanne Perego puts into the mouth of Chico are “all true and interesting”
Regardless, Dawkins seen at mass and Dawkins is a Catholic are not equivalent statements.
Exactly, he's probably getting more hands-on evidence for his arguments against God.
Mrs Chippy must be turning in her grave.
David Quinn having bitter arguements? I'm astonished at that...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Maybe it was a wedding, a funeral, a baptism or an anniversary mass for someone...
I'm an athiest. I don't believe a word of the garbage I was reared to consider "my faith" ...I reject it all for it's well dodgy core-theory, highly suspect provenance and ...general whiff of bullsh1t -yet I go to RC churches from time to time because most of my family are either practicing or nominal RCs ..and if they were all Jewish I'd probably be going to Synagogues for funerals, weddings, parties anything.
By the by, I doubt Dawkins has ever had a bitter argument with David Quinn (who he anyway?) or anyone else. He is probably the calmest most collected debater I've ever seen.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
God Squad Correspondent for the Indo (possibly only a columnist now), former Editor of the Irish Catholic, and former rumoured prospective PD parliamentary candidate.
Last edited by Macy; 16/10/2007 at 2:33 PM.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
I was going to say that. He could have been there for other persons benefit - does not mean he dancing in the isle to the tunes.
That cat story sums up that site purrfectly...
Pathetic.
He could have been there for any number of reasons
The Church wouldn't have had to stoop this low in the Middle Ages I tell ya
It's fairly standard for a Catholic newspaper. The headline is moronic, but the rest of it boils down to defending US religious figures having threatened to deny communion to pro-abortionist* politicians. Big deal.
*I prefer not to mince words with 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice'.
Also fairly standard for catholic newspapers, and others who over simplify the arguement. Being Pro Choice I obviously prefer to mince babies.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Arguably. I don't think it deserves to be held up as some sort of shocking example of how the paper is totally lacking in credibility though.
Very good.Being Pro Choice I obviously prefer to mince babies.
It was this bit:
That stuck out for me.He is cagey when asked about his faith. In August he said: “My religious affiliation, my religious practices and the degree to which I am a good or not-so-good Catholic, I prefer to leave to the priests.” And last week he reacted coolly to the possibility of being denied Holy Communion. “Archbishops have a right to their opinion,” he said.
This response compares favourably to Senator Kerry’s, who told Time magazine: “I don’t tell Church officials what to do and Church officials shouldn’t tell American politicians what to do in the context of our public life.”
It is interesting that, according to the polls, American evangelicals prefer Mr Giuliani to other presidential hopefuls. It seems they are willing to ignore the former Mayor of New York’s unChristian social values because he is hawkish on foreign policy issues.
Granted they are obviously Christians and will as such stick up for Christian beliefs.
But really, should they have anything to do with how capable someone is of running a country??
In their eyes, yeah, it's pretty much everything. It hardly seems unreasonable to prefer someone on the basis that his policies are what you consider to be wrong. It beats our system anyway, where people vote on religious lines, depending on whether or not they buy into the Church of Bertie.
Now, now, you saw the tribunal.
No-one was bought
That money was just resting in his account
There is such a book, I've seen it before. I think you might be missing my point.
I did. I assumed you'd taken it for a parody. Surely no one would parody one of those. Too easy!
That article touches on it a bit & I think it is pathetic how American politics linked so badly to religion. Hopefully we never get so bad over here.
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