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Thread: Wales v. Republic of Ireland - Monday, 9th October 2017 - World Cup 2018 Qualifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Where was McCarthy last night? ..Didn't see him there?
    McCarthy returned to his club along with Hayes and someone else who's name escapes me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Have you considered that if you can't find happiness tonight, then maybe this whole football thing isn't for you? There are all sorts of other sports and activities out there. Why not have a go at your local Archery Club or a try your hand at a Bridge society? Or even a bit of gardening or something!

    Perhaps with your quest for ideological purity you would fit in with one of the revolutionary socialist political parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straightstory View Post
    George Hamilton said that Wales needed to win after Croatia went ahead in Ukraine. Is that correct (he gets so many things wrong)? If Wales had drawn, they would have had 18 points (like Slovakia), but Wales GD was better. Anyone know?
    Wales' GD wouldn't have been better than Slovakia's.

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    Very proud of the team, great performance last night. It wasn't pretty, but it was never going to be. We defended brilliantly - Clark and Duffy have formed a great partnership. Ward and Christie also did their jobs very well. Randolph was fantastic. If we defend that well as a unit, we will be tough for any team.

    For playoffs, I think a fear of Switzerland is misguided. They got a very easy group apart from Portugal, with the other teams being Hungary, Faroe Islands, Latvia and Andorra. Their winning streak in that group is a bit misleading.

    We will need to work on keeping possession at home for the playoffs though - we have struggled this year at home against decent opposition. I am not sure what can be done in this period of time, but perhaps being away for the first tie would be good for us.

    Sweden, Denmark and Switzerland are all good draws considering - none will be easy and we will be the underdogs. Last night showed that tag really does suit us just fine.

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    Have we all heard Kilbane's reaction to the goal on Newstalk last night: https://twitter.com/offtheball/statu...780864/video/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Regarding the Swiss, i think theyd be the best team to get, good at crosses and can string the ball around, but rely to much on shaqiri, and dont like it up them...........very brittle team. But arent they our bogey team?
    We beat them with little trouble last time out in that Rising friendly last year.
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    Did anyone else spot Dublin Gaelic footballer Bernard Brogan (far-left) in the crowd-shot just as the anthem was finishing?



    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Where was McCarthy last night? ..Didn't see him there?
    The FAI tweeted on Sunday that McCarthy, McGoldrick and Hayes had returned to their clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    I'm sorry, but this isn't chance. It's possible to fluke one or 2 wins but we've now had wins against Germany, Italy, Austria (away), Wales (away), drew in Belgrade, won a playoff against Bosnia over 2 legs and gave France a hell of a fright in the Euros. These are all teams with better players than us on paper but esprit de corps counts for a lot in international football and that is what have in spades.

    I enjoy a crisp passing move as much as the next man, but it's only one way to win a game of football. There are other ways and it's legitimate to pursue them if the manager feels it's the most likely approach to deliver success with the players available to him.

    The harsh reality is that the group of players we have aren't going to win the World Cup, but O'Neills tactics have achieved as much as could have realistically been hoped for over 2 campaigns now. There have been ups and downs for sure but could we have achieved more with a different tactical approach? I'd suggest we probably couldn't have done much better, but we might have done an awful lot worse. Wes Hoolahan is a fine player, but it's not like he is someone like David Silva or Philippe Coutinho who can have a team built around him. He's a 35 year old who is usually on the bench for Norwich. The 2 guys who played in midfield tonight are starting regularly in the Premier League so clearly it isn't just Martin O'Neill who rates them highly.

    If we draw Italy or Croatia it's probably going to be tough but if we get Denmark, Sweden or Switzerland we can do our thing and see what happens.
    All good points.....but. We, you and I included, expected to see some cameo from Hoolahan last night. We didn't and it turned out fine. It worked out. I'm delighted it turned out that way. But now all of a sudden Meyler and Hendrick are better than Wes? They were brilliant last night both of them so let's give credit where it is due. But it could have been made easier with Hoolahan at some point after half time and a badly tiring Murphy taken off long before the final whistle. Players were brilliant in their effort, That said, it's not the time or place for this discussion. Maybe after playoffs.

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    Jaysis give it a rest with the Wes/passing/possession stuff. As others have said there is more than one way to win a game of football. And none necessarily 'right' or 'wrong'. JByrne highlighted to you how a 'possession ' game ended up for Wales in the 57th minute. It's safe to say MON knows a hell of a lot more about football than you or any of us on here. It's a lot more nuanced than 'pass the ball'. To not give him a shred of credit after last night is petty in the extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic View Post
    Jaysis give it a rest with the Wes/passing/possession stuff. As others have said there is more than one way to win a game of football. And none necessarily 'right' or 'wrong'. JByrne highlighted to you how a 'possession ' game ended up for Wales in the 57th minute. It's safe to say MON knows a hell of a lot more about football than you or any of us on here. It's a lot more nuanced than 'pass the ball'. To not give him a shred of credit after last night is petty in the extreme.
    yes, great defending is also great football. where does it say that great football must involve lovely passing and possession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic View Post
    Jaysis give it a rest with the Wes/passing/possession stuff. As others have said there is more than one way to win a game of football. And none necessarily 'right' or 'wrong'. JByrne highlighted to you how a 'possession ' game ended up for Wales in the 57th minute. It's safe to say MON knows a hell of a lot more about football than you or any of us on here. It's a lot more nuanced than 'pass the ball'. To not give him a shred of credit after last night is petty in the extreme.
    Martin O'Neill does know an awful lot more about football than me or anyone else on here. That is 100 per cent true. And what's also true is that I told anyone who would listen, back when Martin was at Celtic, that he was the best manager in the British Isles. Better than Ferguson at United, Houllier at Liverpool etc. He was the best back then and also when he was at Leicester because he achieved so much with so little over his career in club management (beating the likes of Juventus, Liverpool and Barcelona and making the Uefa Cup Final with Celtic are achievements which no one can take away from him - simply superb). I am not a Martin O'Neill hater. He achieved a similarly successful result last night and all the credit to him. What he also should receive credit for is developing a defence which is becoming very very hard to score against. So let's put it all out on the table. But in saying that I feel he could have eased the pressure on his defence last night by making one or two changes at half time - my opinion, and that's all it is.

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    I didn't view the game live but had the SC4 version on recording set up. I had told most everybody that I was going home later to watch a recording of the Irl Wales game and just in case - don't even hint at what's happening there.
    Just as I was about to leave, somebody else came along and exclaimed that Ireland have beaten Wales, congratulations. I was really píssed, 'what did you tell me that for? I haven't seen the game yet'. For 2 seconds I was annoyed at him but then felt quite pleased about it, a compromise was reached - 'okay then that's alright, just don't tell me the score'.

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    FIFA investigating an alleged headbutt by Robbie Brady on Ashley Williams in the 61st minute, in danger of missing the 1st playoff game at least.
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...y-robbie-brady

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    They showed that on the Sky Sports coverage alright last night, but not on RTÉ. Even Craig Bellamy was saying it's a joke if some overpaid fella in Switzerland tries to justify his salary by investigating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Martin O'Neill does know an awful lot more about football than me or anyone else on here. That is 100 per cent true. And what's also true is that I told anyone who would listen, back when Martin was at Celtic, that he was the best manager in the British Isles.
    Enough of the British Isles talk. You’ve been listening to Chris Coleman too much.
    Stick it in the drawer with Dunphy’s Londonderry comment last night

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    FIFA investigating an alleged headbutt by Robbie Brady on Ashley Williams in the 61st minute, in danger of missing the 1st playoff game at least.
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...y-robbie-brady
    Some bit of skill by Clark to set up the chance for Duffy in those highlights . Great character / application by our lads .

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    FIFA investigating an alleged headbutt by Robbie Brady on Ashley Williams in the 61st minute, in danger of missing the 1st playoff game at least.
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...y-robbie-brady
    It'd be his 3rd suspension of this qualifying campaign!

    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    They showed that on the Sky Sports coverage alright last night, but not on RTÉ. Even Craig Bellamy was saying it's a joke if some overpaid fella in Switzerland tries to justify his salary by investigating it.
    Bellamy was very good I thought in the aftermath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    Enough of the British Isles talk. You’ve been listening to Chris Coleman too much.
    Stick it in the drawer with Dunphy’s Londonderry comment last night
    What was this now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    Enough of the British Isles talk. You’ve been listening to Chris Coleman too much.
    Stick it in the drawer with Dunphy’s Londonderry comment last night
    Sounds funny, what was that???

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    They were talking about Duffy's performance and Dunphy said (laughing)... "Another Derry man, where would we be without Londonderry?". Darragh just kind of said (also laughing) "ah here, stop" and Dunphy proceeded to analyse Duffy's performance.

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    clip of the headbutt in this article

    http://www.the42.ie/robbie-brady-ash...39124-Oct2017/

    it's a headbutt, but very minor. williams barely even notices it. not sure if that helps...

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