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    a little birdy told me

    that things are not just frosty between the staff and employer at CCFC. Lennox would walk past the coaching staff on the street without a salute, and his condemnation of the coaching staff having to go back to basics, in the club programme, came without warning or consultation with anyone else.

    I dont know what to think of the situation. Lennox has thusfar been good for the club; the healthy situation we are in is pretty much down to him. Dolan and Noel O'C oversaw the changeover to professionalism extremely well, and as Dolan once told me, being disappointed with a victory (in context, the narrow win against longford, out of context, finishing 2nd when we looked like coming mid table), is a good sign of ambition.

    However something has annoyed Lennox, clearly, and the reprocussions are that there was an unhealthy atmosphere in the club. As much as the coaches probably made a good move career wise in taking charge of other clubs themselves, obviously the situation at cork city hardly persuaded them to stay.

    Such are the implications of scrutinising a professional club (an oxymoron in itself), the open heart of the club is hidden for the sake of the money making business. However as supporters and therefore one of the driving forces behind the club, arent we entitled to know whats going on?

    -What did Dolan do to annoy Lennox so much?
    -How else has Lennox contributed to the bad atmosphere?
    -Have things changed for the better?
    -Are the rifts between chairman and manager, and manager and players connected?

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    As a fan, I'd like to know

    - that with some many "little birdies", "moles" and "flys on the wall" in the club, should CCFC be turned into a zoo rather than a football club?
    - Must every unsubstansiated rumour, unproveable hearsay and bit of tittle-tattle about Cork City be dis-sected endlessly?


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    Not trying to wws this, honestly, but surely someone is leaking/spinning all these tales?
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Not trying to wws this, honestly, but surely someone is leaking/spinning all these tales?
    I suppose there must be, but its getting extremely tiresome at this stage. I've never heard such bitching, moaning, whinging and downright bullsh*t about ANY club EVER.
    You'd swear we had been relegated or something......

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    i was about to jump in but thought better of it.....

    [if there is a row or a disagreement over direction than im guessing its something along the lines of dolan wanting cash to add to the squad and lennox refusing to break the bank and preferring to steer a prudent sensible financial path - fair balls to him if thats the case!]

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    I suppose there must be, but its getting extremely tiresome at this stage. I've never heard such bitching, moaning, whinging and downright bullsh*t about ANY club EVER.
    You'd swear we had been relegated or something......
    Then the question is who and why. Not trying to comment on the validity of any of the arguments, but something ain't right with someone that this is going on....
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    As a fan, I'd like to know

    - that with some many "little birdies", "moles" and "flys on the wall" in the club, should CCFC be turned into a zoo rather than a football club?
    - Must every unsubstansiated rumour, unproveable hearsay and bit of tittle-tattle about Cork City be dis-sected endlessly?

    ok, i'll give you a hint. he recently left the club, is glad to get away from it, and feels the chairman let everyone down in his programme notes.

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    I like most others are sick of the rumours.

    Either reveal your source, or this thread will be closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
    feels the chairman let everyone down in his programme notes.
    BS

    Lennox was dead right to say what he said. It was the kick up the arse they needed. Seemed to work too
    Oh no not them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
    ok, i'll give you a hint. he recently left the club, is glad to get away from it,
    Just curious...is it Noel O'Connor you're on about?

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    im not sure with all these rumours going if it is just people sh~t stirring or this is something more sinister going on. somoen seems tohave an agenda here

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap
    Just curious...is it Noel O'Connor you're on about?
    Well you could do the Gav-Gav's Old Doll-Mary I-NO'C connection

    or maybe Gav saw it written on the jacks in UCC under "Any Info: Brian Lennox, Arts 3"
    Oh no not them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    I like most others are sick of the rumours.

    Either reveal your source, or this thread will be closed.
    this isnt a rumour. its fact. i cant say explicitly where i got this from because it wouldnt just be my arse at risk. close this if you want but i dont see the point. if you can find a thread similar to this, merge them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    or maybe Gav saw it written on the jacks in UCC under "Any Info: Brian Lennox, Arts 3"
    no but im still waiting on info on Liam Murphy, Geography 1. As its usually the geog's that walk around all day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
    Lennox would walk past the coaching staff on the street without a salute,
    Just off the phone to Nick Griffin. He was as shocked as you are !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
    this isnt a rumour. its fact. i cant say explicitly where i got this from
    If its fact, then there should be no problem. There is just so many people who seem to know things as "facts", yet wont divulge their sources, its unreal. It certainly doesnt give any of these rumours any merit, and they will remain rumours until a source is given.

    Its very easy to start rumours (and some would say fun too), but these rumours are doing nothing but creating problems.
    Last edited by Gary; 08/02/2005 at 7:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC
    BS

    Lennox was dead right to say what he said. It was the kick up the arse they needed. Seemed to work too
    exactly. Lennox is the boss, and sometimes the boss needs to give people a boot up the hole.

    Quote Originally Posted by exile
    im not sure with all these rumours going if it is just people sh~t stirring or this is something more sinister going on. somoen seems tohave an agenda here
    there is definitely a vendetta against Lennox going on. people are not just criticising him on specific issues (which is fair game) but making wild accusations and personal attacks.I'd love to know who's behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Not trying to wws this, honestly, but surely someone is leaking/spinning all these tales?
    Has wws become a verb now?

    How would you describe the art of wws-ing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    If its fact, then there should be no problem. There is just so many people who seem to know things as "facts", yet wont divulge their sources, its unreal. It certainly doesnt give any of these rumours any merit, and they will remain rumours until a source is given.

    Its very easy to start rumours (and some would say fun too), but these rumours are doing nothing but creating problems.
    because sometimes things are told in confidence Gary, and a journalist like myself ( ) has to then take morality into account. theres more i could say but i wont because i have an obligation to someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
    because sometimes things are told in confidence Gary, and a journalist like myself ( ) has to then take morality into account. theres more i could say but i wont because i have an obligation to someone.
    and does a journalist like yourself have an obligation to do a thorough investigation of a 'story' and report the full facts from both sides?

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