QuoteReid was never fully fit all of last season at Spurs and was basically let go for the simple reason that he doesn't have the dedication to get his weight under control.
Great talent, lacks dedication.
Robson did mention a name, he said that Byrne did well but will have to improve on his fitness levels. That's it, full stop, not a peep more about Jason in that interview with Robson.Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
No. Bobby Robson made a general comment about certain players being unfit. He mentioned no names. Byrne was one of them as Staunton later said that Byrne needed to get fitter. I'm wondering was Andy Reid another that Robson was referring to... And it's not word for word either, I don't have a memory as good as that unfortunately.
geysir, it's not a heap of tripe. I remember well when Robson said it and it was also in the papers. I'll try and find a source or link. Maybe you should pay more attention in future too
'would never be included in an Irish squad again as long as i'm involved'.
is a heap of tripe.
Unless you are going to quote Jolly as the source, I'm afraid you have to concede.
Reid was never fully fit all of last season at Spurs and was basically let go for the simple reason that he doesn't have the dedication to get his weight under control.
Great talent, lacks dedication.
Bang on.
Listen, what exactly is your point? This isn't about Jason Byrne! (Quite frankly I couldn't care less about Jason Byrne because he's over-rated, unfit and not up to standard beyond Shelbourne and the EL.) I'm talking about a general statement that Robson made regarding players who were unfit and in his view, wouldn't be involved with the squad again. He said players not player, and he was not referring to Byrne alone (He mentioned no names, but when asked about Byrne, said he needed to be fitter). Whether you like it or not, Robson said this. I'm not quoting Robson directly in my initial post, as I don't have a photographic/pinpoint memory, so stop being so pedantic about the quote. It's a quote along those lines, as Stuttgart88 has also referred to.
It quite plausible to assume that Andy Reid is/was one of those players Robson referred to as it's strange why he's been left out for such an important game, considering our options.
I dont think its pedantic to request a quote as there is not proof otherwise that Robson even said it. It seems like this is LIke a Radiohead song and 2+2 does in fact equal 5.
In Trap we trust
I think tubby Reid could do a job off the bench for 20-30 minutes.
If not more.
I wonder are the same people who were slagging his physique on this board also now saying he should be in the squad.
I hope an Irish hack asks specifically about this during the week.
on thread - am sure reid will be involved again at some stage. he is a class player but needs a bit more football. its the managers call.
I have questioned his ability to play 90 minutes of top level football. However he should in the squad ahead of the likes of Douglas & O'Brien.
As I said, I agree about that Reid should be included in the squad.
Unless it is believed that he has a malign influence on the squad or has displayed open disregard to the managment, then there is more to gain by having him there. Maybee it's a perceived lack of fitness issue.
Robson is quite clear about his role in the team. He's not the one likely to be quoted or even implying that he can call the shots.
I read the three articles where Robson was interviewed after the Sweden and Chile game and they were discussed on this forum. Nothing like that was flagged.
Stuttgart, a respected seasoned pro, is getting on a bit and may be mixing up quotes uttered in totally different contexts.
Again you know nothing about or my like or dislike for Radiohead.
on thread - am sure reid will be involved again at some stage. he is a class player but needs a bit more football. its the managers call.
In Trap we trust
Yes, yes, very likely I'm afraid and yes again.
Yes, I think I may have confused rumour on foot.ie with the Robson quotes in The Examiner. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't, I just don't know any more. Call it a "Robson moment" if you like.
I don't really see the relevence of that Stuttgart. I have questioned his fitness before but I have never said the boy isn't talented and the fact he is not in the squad is a joke IMO. I have thought we could get more out of him if he improved his physique however he can still cause teams damage as it is.
How fit could Liam Miller, Johnathan Douglas and Alan O'Brien be considering they haven't played a minute of first team football for their clubs in nearly 4 months? Reid has played in 2 of Charlton's 3 games and played nearly all of the match on Sat when they were down to 10 men.
Fact is anyway an unfit Andy Reid would still be miles better than tha above 3 if they were all fully match fit. Staunton is a joke and I don't think he has a clue. Nothing he's done so far seems to indicate otherwise. I worry about Saturday. I think we could be beaten badly.
At the same time I was also thinking back to all those who said (quite recently too) that Reid could not play central midfield. Now it seems that everybody wants him in the squad at least, and many in CM! That's all. But yes, his fitness has been a concern. Not necessarily his perceived weight issues, but simply his lack of match action in the second half of last season.
But as pointed out above, how can Miller, Douglas & O'Brien be deemed properly match fit? Maybe it's because they've done proper preaseasons whereas I know Reid missed at least some of his at Spurs. Just a guess. As Noely said though, I hope this isn't Stan acting the tough guy. There are better ways of getting employees to buck up their ideas.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 30/08/2006 at 10:12 AM.
I've always thought Reid is best in Cm and have always thought he should be in our starting 11. IMO people only care about his weight when he is off form - its the same with Ronaldo - when he is banging in the goals nobody cares about his weight but when the goals stop...
I can't quite believe he has not been called up. If the midfield performance is anything like that against Holland, Staunton is going to be badly exposed for leaving Reid behind.
The Germans must be delighted.
Fair point but is it coincidence that his better performance have come when he has looked in reasonable shape? I don't know about anyone else but there were times when I thought he looked noticably bigger than other times.
Anyway it's been done to death, at the end of the day he's a very good player for us who should be in the team when fit never mind the squad.
Just saw this on the newswires this morning:
CARSLEY WANTS REPUBLIC RETURN
Everton midfielder Lee Carsley wants to end his international retirement and
make himself available again for the Republic of Ireland.
Carsley initially wanted to concentrate on his club career and also get over a
serious knee injury.
But the 32-year-old is ready to make himself available to new Republic boss
Steve Staunton.
He said: ``I would like to go back. I've spoken to Steve and would love to
return. It's not as if they are exactly blessed with an abundance of
midfielders.
``So if I could help try to bridge that gap for them, perhaps even if it is
just for another season to give the other lads a chance to mature, then that
would be great.
``You could see when they played against Holland earlier this month and lost
4-0 that it seemed as if they were thrown straight into the deep end.''
end
Otherwise translated as "Now that Keane, Holland and Kinsella are retired, and no decent competition is coming through, I have a good chance of getting a game. So I might not be travelling for nothing."
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