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    It hasn't been announced yet?

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    James Rodriguez wins it. Great goal, but I thought it was the least impressive of the three in the sense it was fairly usual and conventional.

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    WOrse than the least worthy goal winning, the cheating tramp henry presents the main prize. John Delaney has a lot to answer for :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    James Rodriguez wins it. Great goal, but I thought it was the least impressive of the three in the sense it was fairly usual and conventional.
    The stage for each goal is also a significant factor. The opposition coupled with 'the one man and his dog' element to Roche's goal diminishes it in relation to the others.

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    I personally hear what you're saying, although the stage isn't supposed to come into it, according to the Rules of Allocation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I personally hear what you're saying, although the stage isn't supposed to come into it, according to the Rules of Allocation.
    I'd say the reality is somewhat different though.
    Last edited by The Fly; 12/01/2015 at 8:23 PM.

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    The fact that James represents a huge country and a global hispanic community probably decided what was, after all, a public vote. I thought his was the least impressive of the 3.

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    I think Tim Cahill can consider himself very unlucky not to make the top three as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I personally hear what you're saying, although the stage isn't supposed to come into it, according to the Rules of Allocation.
    I saw this on twitter earlier specifying the criteria for the Puskas Award -
    (I presume it relates to the initial shortlist)


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    I saw this on twitter earlier specifying the criteria for the Puskas Award -
    (I presume it relates to the initial shortlist)

    Those are the criteria for selection. The rules of allocation are what's relevant for the final decision, when it is assumed the importance of occasion, etc, has already been factored in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Those are the criteria for selection. The rules of allocation are what's relevant for the final decision, when it is assumed the importance of occasion, etc, has already been factored in.
    I understand that. However, leaving aside the nature of how the winner was determined, the circumstances in which a goal is scored will always play a significant part in how it's perceived imo. In other words, a bigger occasion will always add to a goal's greatness.
    Last edited by The Fly; 13/01/2015 at 2:41 AM.

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    Those above criteria were applicable for selecting the best goal when the award was first introduced in 2009/10: http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...r-1120531.html

    They're not relevant to this year's competition and feature in no official documentation, but merely on Wikipedia (and repeated on social media).

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    Not much point having all these rules when it's a public vote and there is no control of criteria. iI'd love to see a breakdown of the ip addresses for the votes and what vote was cast.

    A panel of experts would maybe do a better job of choosing on merit, but even that would be a nightmare, and probably capture public attention less.

    I voted for Kasami's goal originally, on merit (in my subjective opinion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Those above criteria were applicable for selecting the best goal when the award was first introduced in 2009/10: http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...r-1120531.html

    They're not relevant to this year's competition and feature in no official documentation, but merely on Wikipedia (and repeated on social media).
    I was just going to edit my post after finding that out, but you've kinda done that for me.

    They may not be relevant to this year's competition but I think the significance of the occasion and level of competition play an instinctive role in the appreciation of a goal. I will admit to a certain bias against Stephanie Roche's because of this, despite the obvious skill and technique involved.

    Anyway, as Osarusan states above, these rules were made redundant by having a public vote to determine the winner.
    Last edited by The Fly; 13/01/2015 at 4:40 AM.

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    I think the public vote is to generate publicity and publicity alone. And it works. I don't think it necessarily has any less validity than the Ballon d'Or poll, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan
    iI'd love to see a breakdown of the ip addresses for the votes and what vote was cast.
    That was published after the first round of voting. Colombia had the most visitors; I think we were third.

    Beaten at our own game I guess

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    I'd say it was a toss-up between Roche's and Rodriguez's goals for which one is the best. Rodriguez is in acres of space and has time to pick a spot, which he does excellently. Roche has to take on a defender, beats them perfectly, then finishes. The defender being there probably shades it for Roche.

    I don't think van Persie's goal is anything special. He doesn't need to go into a swan dive after heading the ball. If he'd flicked it over the keeper, then landed on his feet, like he would have easily been able to do, we wouldn't even be talking about it as a goal of the season contender.

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    I thought RVP's goal was amazing. There was only one way he was able to beat the keeper. He met it perfectly while also cushion-heading it to make sure the pace was taken off the ball so it'd drop in over the keeper. Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I thought RVP's goal was amazing. There was only one way he was able to beat the keeper. He met it perfectly while also cushion-heading it to make sure the pace was taken off the ball so it'd drop in over the keeper. Class.


    I am off the same opinion ....absolute piece of genius by RVP

    I agree with Roche's in Second.....but Rodriguez should have gotten third with RVP first imo.
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