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    The MON and Keane appointments have so far been a disappointment.
    We have just stumbled along, no progression and sadly with a real possibility of not qualifying for the Euros in France.

    For me MON is a spent force as a manager, even more so without his long time friend and number 2 Robertson.

    I also doubt whether the Ireland managers job was MONs first priority and only took the job as a fallback after missing out on a couple of Premiership clubs.

    As for Roy "If your looking for trouble you've come to the right place" Keane.

    It clearly hasn't worked, some will say give him time but if it was working then why has MON brought in additional backroom staff?

    The signs are that MON has lost his way.
    Poor team selections, tactics and what happened to this open flowing attacking football we were promised?

    Mr Trapattoni got heavily criticised and yes the last campaign was one too many, but let's not forget he was a hand ball away from possibly getting us to the World Cup and we made the Euros where we faced three teams in the top ten world rankings, two that made the finals.

    As for the gruesome twosome,
    I suspect that the FAI feel that both appointments have not lived upto expectations, but do not have the finances to cut their losses.

    Sadly I feel it will be Germany Poland and the Scots in France with Ireland and the management team left at home making excuses.

    Mr Trapattoni, thanks for the memories.

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    Martin O Neill certainly deserves more time.

    Road Rage Roy certainly has the potential to be a car crash !

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Poor team selections, tactics and what happened to this open flowing attacking football we were promised?

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    As for the gruesome twosome,
    I suspect that the FAI feel that both appointments have not lived upto expectations, but do not have the finances to cut their losses.
    When did O'Neill promise open and flowing attacking football?

    The draw away in Germany has been a highlight. We're only four games into the group with six still to play. Of course, there's a possibility we mightn't qualify. There's also a possibility we might qualify. Nothing's even near decided yet, so I don't know how you can start talking about them having failed to meet the FAI's expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    The MON and Keane appointments have so far been a disappointment.
    We have just stumbled along, no progression and sadly with a real possibility of not qualifying for the Euros in France.

    For me MON is a spent force as a manager, even more so without his long time friend and number 2 Robertson.

    I also doubt whether the Ireland managers job was MONs first priority and only took the job as a fallback after missing out on a couple of Premiership clubs.

    As for Roy "If your looking for trouble you've come to the right place" Keane.

    It clearly hasn't worked, some will say give him time but if it was working then why has MON brought in additional backroom staff?

    The signs are that MON has lost his way.
    Poor team selections, tactics and what happened to this open flowing attacking football we were promised?

    Mr Trapattoni got heavily criticised and yes the last campaign was one too many, but let's not forget he was a hand ball away from possibly getting us to the World Cup and we made the Euros where we faced three teams in the top ten world rankings, two that made the finals.

    As for the gruesome twosome,
    I suspect that the FAI feel that both appointments have not lived upto expectations, but do not have the finances to cut their losses.

    Sadly I feel it will be Germany Poland and the Scots in France with Ireland and the management team left at home making excuses.

    Mr Trapattoni, thanks for the memories.
    Relax, Sean. I'm sure if your trial in DC goes well you'll be right back in MON's plans.

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    Man, those Trap apologists really can't get over how MON was able to get a point out of Germany huh? Really upset the narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Man, those Trap apologists really can't get over how MON was able to get a point out of Germany huh? Really upset the narrative.
    kinda similar achievement to when traps team drew away against the then world champions Italy in 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Man, those Trap apologists really can't get over how MON was able to get a point out of Germany huh? Really upset the narrative.
    They shouldn't need to get that upset, they would be well advised to follow the example set by some members here, just play the 'he/we got lucky' card when things go against their beliefs.

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    Roy is taking up his role with ITV again this month: http://balls.ie/football/457694-roy-...to-an-old-job/

    Quote Originally Posted by Daryl Bolger
    Roy Keane’s sole dedication to the Irish team didn’t last too long, the Ireland assistant manager is reportedly taking up his old position analyst with ITV starting on February 17th. The Corkonian will line up beside Paul Scholes and new presenter Mark Pougatch, in what is his first match since taking up the role after the sacking of Adrian Chiles, as Chelsea face PSG in the Champions League.

    Keane left ITV in a lurch last Summer, quitting the station just a day before the World Cup, a move not unfamiliar to Irish fans during a certain World Cup. He took up a role with Villa not long after before quitting that job in late November, ostensibly to concentrate on his role with Ireland.

    It is difficult to see how the time could not be better spent watching Ireland players however, Cyrus Christie, Jeff Hendrick, James McClean, and Eoin Doyle are amongst Irish players who could be in action the same night as the PSG – Chelsea match.

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    So he should be at a game at every available opportunity? Bit of an unrealistic ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    So he should be at a game at every available opportunity? Bit of an unrealistic ask.
    Do the FAI set a minimum number of games to attend/have any role in advising or deciding which games to attend or are he and Martin pretty much left to their own devices on that front? If the ITV thing clashed with an FAI obligation, obviously there'd be a problem there, but, as you say, I don't think we could or should expect him to be at every game possible involving an Irish player.

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    It's not like the players listed above are only going to be playing on that night either

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    I really doubt it Danny but who knows. MON and Keane surely have the freedom to select as they wish, it would be counter productive otherwise. O'Neill could feel the need to watch some players more than others. He might wish to focus on centre backs, for example, if he feels he's well fixed in other areas. I'd presume the only FAI requirement is that they don't take the p!ss like Trap.
    Last edited by DeLorean; 06/02/2015 at 11:16 AM.

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    Ha, below what number of games attended would be considered unacceptable "Trap p*ss-taking" levels, I wonder. One or two?

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    In fairness to Trap, when he went to watch Hendrick play for Derby, he managed to come back with Keogh and Sammon as well. When you get results like that it reduces the amount of games you need to attend considerably

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    I still think there was an element of spite on Trap's part. You want me to go and see games? Well, I did and I'm now picking Sammon. Be careful what you wish for. Ciao.

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    So he picked Sammon to play the whole game against Spain, in a high profile friendly, out of spite??
    Stutts, that suspicion is firmly embedded in the tin foil hat, loonie bin, conspiracy territory.

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    Tongue-in-cheek, surely? Nevermind the Spain game, he played the whole of the Austria game at Lansdowne too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Roy is taking up his role with ITV again this month: http://balls.ie/football/457694-roy-...to-an-old-job/

    Originally Posted by Daryl Bolger

    Roy Keane’s sole dedication to the Irish team didn’t last too long, the Ireland assistant manager is reportedly taking up his old position analyst with ITV starting on February 17th. The Corkonian will line up beside Paul Scholes and new presenter Mark Pougatch, in what is his first match since taking up the role after the sacking of Adrian Chiles, as Chelsea face PSG in the Champions League.

    Keane left ITV in a lurch last Summer, quitting the station just a day before the World Cup, a move not unfamiliar to Irish fans during a certain World Cup. He took up a role with Villa not long after before quitting that job in late November, ostensibly to concentrate on his role with Ireland.

    It is difficult to see how the time could not be better spent watching Ireland players however, Cyrus Christie, Jeff Hendrick, James McClean, and Eoin Doyle are amongst Irish players who could be in action the same night as the PSG – Chelsea match.
    The writer neglected to mention that Roy's 'old job' is distinctly short-term, given that this is ITV's last year of Champions League coverage.

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    The final is the day before the England friendly and week before the Scotland game. It would probably be better if he doesn't sign up for that!

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    He's signed up to ITV on a game to game basis.
    What is the big deal?
    Football managers can often be seen commentating on games on TV.
    Non-story again but when it comes to Roy there's no such thing as a non-story it seems
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