This.Originally Posted by hoops1
Giles has forgotten more about football than any of us will ever know about it. Get rid of the other two clowns.
But he has lost touch with the modern game they say! He doesn't know anything about the false number nine, the high press, playing between the lines and the number 10!
Lets talk about six baby
Ye all those things never existed before they are all new and Vardy broke the record of consecutive games to score, Shearer is the all time top scorer and football never existed before sky or the premier league
Champions 2010
Champions 2011
Dick Brush 1 Sligo 0
Bohs are going bust.
Like RaM I have to agree 100% with ya.
I listen to Gilesy on OTB every Thursday and I never ever come away without something learned or enlightening, whether it's an old story or something he saw in a game that us laymen (not posh obvs) missed out on.
To keep Dunphy in this scenario is a crock. And a disgrace.
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Spot on. I can't understand the criticism of Giles. To me he speaks plainly and in common sense terms about the game and makes a lot of sense. I used to love listening to him as co-commentator during a game. To criticise him because he doesn't know who plays left back for Valencia, or some such, is to miss the point. The point about keeping Dunphy on is that he is, as they would say in TV terms "box office". He gets people talking about whatever rant he has going at any particular time, so that's why he is being kept.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Nobody criticized him for not knowing the names of footballers.
He was being criticised on the basis that because he doesn't know the name of footballers or what a trequartista is.
I would sit all day listening to John talk about Leeds in the 70s than listen to James Richardson and his ilk over-pronounce "Gianluigi".
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I used to love watching him on Channel 4.
Can't understand why Sky Sports never made him the face of their football coverage.
Perhaps he didn't want to leave Italy?
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I said this elsewhere and similar on here before:
I always thought Giles was a very good analyst of a game in progress. Able to see stuff that other analysts couldn't.
But his lack of any research ("I don't know too much about this team Bill") which seemed to be something of a badge of honour for him annoyed me a lot. He would still go on stereotypes of teams (like the dour defensive German team) well after they'd changed completely.
You say Giles is great and Dunphy a disgrace and yet one of Giles' most commonly used phrases is "I agree with Eamon". Even Gift Grub has picked up on this. Other than on Saipan, the two agree on all aspects of football from attacking every Irish manager since, errr, ummm, John Giles, Ronaldo, style of football, tactics, uncle Tom Cobley and all. It is obvious that Dunphy worships Giles and takes his lead from him on just about everything but says it in a more controversial way to attract attention (e.g. Dunphy threw the pen after the Egyptian game but Giles agreed with everything he said - that is the difference in a nutshell). One is the showman - the other the silent assassin (as regards Irish managers).
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Dunphy and Giles are like chalk and cheese if you look at their contributions in the media in general. Look at Dunphy's articles on rte and compare them to Giles on Newstalk for example. They agree on the panel a lot of time - but to be fair they are watching the same thing - one them would lose credibility eventually if they always disagreed.
Listen, I'm no massive fan of the rte panel but if I was creating a list of 3 in preference of who I'd like to get rid of - Giles would be 3 - Dunphy and Brady would both be 1.
Dunphy very critical of MON's WAG response. Much ado about nothing I think. As Geysir pointed out the answer seemed as much to highlight the silly nature of the question.
Politically correct Eamo they call him.
Geysir called it perfectly. Unfortunately the masses of dimwits wouldn't get that though.
@eitoof -Respectfully, do you know a lot about the Algerians? Do you reckon Richard Sadlier or Didi Hamann do either?
I shall miss Giles and hope someone else covering our games realises there's a market out there for a commentator who isn't impressed by big reputations and cares not a jot about the next wunderkinds high 80's rating on FIFA16.
It's only when they're gone...
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Honestly, no. Which is why I'd kinda like the guys previewing the game to have some bit of a clue about what to expect.
I get that Giles has been good in the past at what he does but, and it's only my opinion, I don't particularly enjoy his punditry anymore.
"Formations don't really matter Darragh" doesn't cut it anymore.
"Formations don't really matter Darragh .....if players don't have the moral courage to get on the ball"
or something similar.
Haha this made me laugh.
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