QuoteArmstrong didn't really do a huge deal of note though, did he?
Well, with our crop of recent defections, their could be a role for an EPN with the FAI.
Though he'd be better served going to Scotland.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Armstrong didn't really do a huge deal of note though, did he?
I think the 'Elite Player Mentor' thing might be something that in years to come, those concerned will look back on it with a note of embarrassment...
The FAI should hire him to poach back Shane McEleney just to **** with the IFA.
Nothing really of note, except waffle plenty in the Sunday Life.Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That's why we called him 'Agent Gerry'...
Begging off the "beggars". Priceless.
It's more, if not all, about the Hypocrisy. Albeit of the most sanctimonious type.
Will NB be boycotting this game then?
So thats a former England u21 international in nets (Camp) - A defence consisting of a former Scotland u21 international (McPake), an full Ireland international(Bruce) and & former England u16 international (Dudgeon).
A former England u17 international in midfield (Norwood) & lads born in stoke & Solihull up front.
Wonder will that put an end to their false sense of victimhood on the eligibility issue?
Eh... I doubt it.
They still need to get someone born in Finchley.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I see EG on OWC claiming it's different in principle because the IFA are calling up "rejects", but when was it ever made clear that, for the entire remainder of their careers, Lee Camp and Alex Bruce would no longer be part of the respective plans of the FA and FAI?
deCamp?
Good old EG, he's sorely missed!
McPake's a good example, he said the following in a Daily Record interview a week before declaring for the north - "I would hope to be knocking on the international (Scottish)door again although the manager has got his centre-halves and a settled squad, but you never know. I got close before so there's no reason why I can't get close again."
Didn't realise that Camp had de-camped himself from their squad to concentrate on his club football.
Unfortunately, I'm all paid up for this one Danny - I'll wait and see if Bruce pulls out of the squad (which I think he might), before deciding if I attend the game. The ticket was only £8, so I'll take the hit on that if Bruce travels to Portugal.
Very disappointed with O'Neill, to say the least.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I'd say it's O'Neill's job is to pick the best squad from the available players, it's not his job to apply (his subjective or succumb to others' subjective) judgments on some players, over and above what he applies to other players. Once a player is qualified to play, then it should come down to what matters to the manager, namely football ability, attitude etc.
O'Neill is probably desperate for NI to rake up a few victories in this group, realistically they will be doing well to finish a close 5th.
How many times has it happened in the history of international football that it is made clear to players that for the rest of their careers they would no longer be part of the plans of their respective football associations?
Would you still think that if, say, Manchester United and the players' agents were to arrange a swap deal that brought Terry and Suarez to the club in exchange for Evra and Ferdinand?
Surely the player's attitude is something that the coach makes a subjective judgement on?
If we hit Xmas with one or two points I think there's a good chance he'll walk. On the other hand, I'm feeling surprisingly optimistic. On the basis of September's games we could finish anywhere between sixth and third.O'Neill is probably desperate for NI to rake up a few victories in this group, realistically they will be doing well to finish a close 5th
What's your point? My point was that the manager (in international football) applies the same criteria for every available player as to how they would fit into the team. Of course he applies his judgements, otherwise how on earth is a manager to decide anything? His job is to pick the best squad from the available players and blend them into a team that functions. That's where he is judged.
There's a wide variety of opinion over what eligible players are good Northern Irelanders. If you want a team solely built around players born in the NI, then put that in the manager's contract. If you have a hierarchy of what constitutes a good Northern Irelander then put that into his contract,
A player with a NI parent is > one NI born grandparent but < 2 NI born parents. Every eligibility criteria is > than one who chose to play for the FAI over and above the IFA, but a NI born who chose to play for the FAI and then returned to the IFA is > than a player who wasn't born in NI, who had first chosen to play for the FAI.
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