Euro 2012 Qualifying Group B - General Discussion

**Kingdom** · 11/10/2011, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Won't there be at least one 'upset' as regards getting through to the playoffs out of Armenia, Scotland, Estonia and Belgium?
I wonder which one it will be

Scotland don't necessarily have to do anything tonight (I can't see them getting anything from Spain) - Czech's are poor and unpredictable, and they play Lithuania in Vilnius, having lost to them already at home. Lithuania have been relatively decent in the recent past, not threatening to qualify or close to it, but pulling off decent results here and there, and it's not beyond possibility that they'll cause a shock tonight against the Czech's. This would in turn lead to your shock referenced above Geysir.

Belgium is a really intriguing one. They have the makings of a fantastic, truly world class team in place at the moment. All they need is a bit of big game experience. To go to Germany and win is about a tough a prospect as they can have, but they'll have to do that. They have the players definitely, but they've handicapped themselves by some strange results in the group. A long shot.

Armenia we know the story.

My money is on Estonia. They don't have to worry about their own game, they've the points on the board and are winning the head to head. Serbia must win in Slovenia. A derby. They've been erratic, but perhaps the play-off all-or-nothing nature of tonight's game might focus their minds. Don't see it myself.

**paul_oshea** · 11/10/2011, 11:17 AM

So 3 upsets then kingdom

**Kingdom** · 11/10/2011, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

So 3 upsets then kingdom

nah, just the one in Estonia. Just can't see Scotland or Belgium getting the breaks.

**Irwin3** · 11/10/2011, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

If we do win, afaiu the Czech Rep and Turkey can overtake us in that UEFA ranking table, if they better our winning difference by 2 goals.

If we win 1-0 then Turkey need to win 32-0 and the Czechs need to win 12-0 to overtake us.

**backstothewall** · 11/10/2011, 8:22 PM

Anyone got any idea if we are going to be seeded or not???

**BonnieShels** · 11/10/2011, 8:27 PM

AT THE moment we are not seeded as France are lying in second in their group.

**geysir** · 11/10/2011, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by Irwin3

If we win 1-0 then Turkey need to win 32-0 and the Czechs need to win 12-0 to overtake us.

Is it not 501 points per goal scored and minus 500 per goal conceded?
That's what I read on the file which explains the procedure.

But its 30,000 points for a win. So maybe the Czechs would need a few hatfuls of goals

**backstothewall** · 11/10/2011, 8:38 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

AT THE moment we are not seeded as France are lying in second in their group.

I thought, based on what Irwin 3 said about the Czechs, and the list they gave on RTÉ, we will be seeded??? France, Portugal and Sweden ahead of us? Turkey, Czechs, Estonia and Montenegro behind us?

But anyway, FRANCE JUST EQUALISED!!!

**geysir** · 11/10/2011, 8:39 PM

Allez les bleus

**backstothewall** · 11/10/2011, 8:40 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Allez les bleus

Never thought I would see someone say that on here again.

Vive le France!

**Closed Account** · 11/10/2011, 8:40 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Is it not 501 points per goal scored and minus 500 per goal conceded?
That's what I read on the file which explains the procedure.

Thats correct on the points per game, but you get 30,000 for a win, so 500 here or there isn't much, and even then that only goes towards your average. So it's plus 500/number of games played (10 or 8)