Tallaght

**tiktok** · 13/07/2009, 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

The reason why Shels are paying every cent owed, should then also be irrelevent and then the fact they are should be applauded by your logic anyway. You can't wave away one and criticise the other.

Yeah, the logic follows and I do applaud them, my criticism of Shels fans has nothing to do with how that club is being run. I've nothing bad to say about Shels other than being increasignly annoyed when their fans try to turn every financial thread on here into a tantrum over the fact that they're paying their debts.

We get it, you're great, the moral high ground is all yours. Enough already.

**dfx-** · 13/07/2009, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Remember that only last year they were asking for members to pay up to 5 years in advance to get them through the season. Something Bohs were lashed for doing this year. Gamble worked for them though

Rovers almost break even in one of the worst seasons in recent memory and a massive hit with Sunderland not playing. On a gamble. I might just ask our board to email me Wednesday's lottery numbers

**Dodge** · 13/07/2009, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Rovers almost break even in one of the worst seasons in recent memory and a massive hit with Sunderland not playing. On a gamble. I might just ask our board to email me Wednesday's lottery numbers

So you're saying they didn't ask members to pay money upfront?

You might ask the baord this too...

**mypost** · 13/07/2009, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Posting a thread asking for people's opinions is ridiculous too IMO.

The thread is about others first impressions of the stadium, we know that the stadium is still a wip and there are improvements coming along, and most of those that come back this season, will see those improvements on their return. It's good that despite the restricted capacity, and the small allocation for visiting fans, that most of their experiences have been positive so far. The stadium next Monday, will look a lot different to how it's looked so far, and a taster of what's to come.

The thread shouldn't go down the route over ours or other club's finances. There are a forumload of threads on those already.

**the-blue-harp** · 13/07/2009, 2:27 PM

i love the way when a thread gets bogged down in chat about how clubs should be run etc etc, up pops ucd fans to take their little moral high ground on the matter!

**Dodge** · 13/07/2009, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

The thread shouldn't go down the route over ours or other club's finances. There are a forumload of threads on those already.

There's plenty of threads on Tallaght too...

**dfx-** · 13/07/2009, 2:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

So you're saying they didn't ask members to pay money upfront?

I'm not saying that at all. There were also other measures to cover the gate losses.

**Schumi** · 13/07/2009, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

The main stand is built to Rovers' original drawings. The new east stand will have a complete roof.

Why did they design it with the roof like that?

**blackholesun** · 13/07/2009, 4:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Amuses me to think that people think they've done nearly everything right

Remember that only last year they were asking for members to pay up to 5 years in advance to get them through the season. Something Bohs were lashed for doing this year.

Did Pats not in the recent past ask for fans who bought lifelong tickets in Harolds Cross to surrender them and start paying in again?

Most clubs have in the past borrowed from tomorrow to pay for today!

bhs

**Sheridan** · 13/07/2009, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by blackholesun

Did Pats not in the recent past ask for fans who bought lifelong tickets in Harolds Cross to surrender them and start paying in again?

Most clubs have in the past borrowed from tomorrow to pay for today!

bhs

Not to have a go at Rovers (as if I'd do that) or anything, but while you're perfectly right that every club has done this, I think what galls some people (certainly me) is that Rovers are held up as a shining financial model for the league when they're having to adopt extraordinary measures to both stay competitive and stay alive, just like everyone else. Not that I think they, or any other club, should retreat into their shell and abandon all aspirations to better things. I think they are doing the right thing, by and large, but not to such an extent that they can afford to be sanctimonious about it (nor can any other club.)

**Dodge** · 13/07/2009, 6:50 PM

Originally Posted by blackholesun

Did Pats not in the recent past ask for fans who bought lifelong tickets in Harolds Cross to surrender them and start paying in again?

Most clubs have in the past borrowed from tomorrow to pay for today!

bhs

Nope, life members still get in free.

And of course loads of clubs have done it. Thats the point.

**blackholesun** · 13/07/2009, 9:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Nope, life members still get in free.

Yes, they still get in free, but the club did ask last year the life ticket fans to consider voluntarily surrender their tickets and start paying in again, did they not?

bhs

**dcfcsteve** · 13/07/2009, 9:32 PM

Originally Posted by the-blue-harp

i love the way when a thread gets bogged down in chat about how clubs should be run etc etc, up pops ucd fans to take their little moral high ground on the matter!

Ah come on TBH - it's all they've got......!

**Dodge** · 13/07/2009, 9:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackholesun

Yes, they still get in free, but the club did ask last year the life ticket fans to consider voluntarily surrender their tickets and start paying in again, did they not?

Not to the two I know.

**Macy** · 14/07/2009, 7:31 AM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I think what galls some people (certainly me) is that Rovers are held up as a shining financial model for the league when they're having to adopt extraordinary measures to both stay competitive and stay alive, just like everyone else.

It's not really an extraordinary measure though is it - it's a once every few years option? I guess it's all relative though, they're not perfect, but if every club was run to a similar model, the league would be much more sustainable. I mean it's not like they're being run in such a way that they'll go bang midseason, is it?

**Dalymountrower** · 14/07/2009, 8:41 AM

Anyhow.... I liked the new SDCC stadium for about 86 minutes

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The crowd segregation for the Bohs match was a disgrace though, a complaint was made to the FAI about that but its difficult to see how else it could have been done without taking another 500 seats out of commission for the fixture

Preumably with the new stand the away fans will be accommodated there?

The stadium does look great from the road and is clearly a welcome addition to Tallaght and the North Wicklow region

**Sheridan** · 16/07/2009, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

howya Sheridan.
Did you get up to much over the weekend ? See any good films ?

I did actually, I saw the 60s Russian Western/Eastern "White Sun of the Desert." It was really good, apparently cosmonauts watch it ritually before their missions.