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    So it would be Irish Citizen Kane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Interesting. I'm still laughing at the first article:


    Cue the usuals who will throw up the quotes from August when he spoke about breaking into the England side.

    He has an Irish father. He's quite entitled to ponder his international future. Is it so blasphemous that he consider earning a greater tally of caps for the country of his father than stick with the more risky option of the country of his birth?

    He could turn out to earn 50+ or -10 caps for either.
    He isn't pondering anything. He is quite adamant that he wants to play for England and he hasn't broached the Ireland situation once. I respect his forthrightness to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    He isn't pondering anything. He is quite adamant that he wants to play for England and he hasn't broached the Ireland situation once. I respect his forthrightness to be honest.
    I stated he was "entitled ponder" in response to an article that stated he was pondering. I didn't state the opposite to "he isn't pondering anything" which would be "he is pondering something". So please don't quote any of my posts in the future if you're going to add little but groundless contradiction.

    Quote the articles instead. I'd rather not be implicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    I stated he was "entitled ponder" in response to an article that stated he was pondering. I didn't state the opposite to "he isn't pondering anything" which would be "he is pondering something". So please don't quote any of my posts in the future if you're going to add little but groundless contradiction.

    Quote the articles instead. I'd rather not be implicated.
    My apologies. I just read the article.

    As someone else said, I don't think there is anything to ponder unless he drastically falls off England's radar - and even then he has plenty of time to play for England. Lambert and Davies were over a decade older by the time they won their first caps.

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    In the wrong thread I suppose but Kane just scored for Spurs,
    however Harry is a very English name, have were had any Harries
    playing for Ireland? i can't think of one hence I think the chances of
    him switching are rather slim, was a quality goal though, l well struck
    low shot across the goal to the far corner, rather Gareth Balesesque.

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    Harry Arter at Bournemouth has underage caps, Harry Crawford - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_C...d_(footballer) - has U19 caps
    according to soccerscene.ie, Harry Cannon, Harry Duggan and Harry Chatton have senior caps for Ireland
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    Harry Charsley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    however Harry is a very English name, have were had any Harries
    playing for Ireland? i can't think of one hence I think the chances of
    him switching are rather slim
    The chances of him switching are slim because he's dead set on playing for England; not because his name might be Harry... His agent is obviously peddling these media stories in the hope that Hodgson might become alarmed enough at the prospect of losing Kane to the FAI for good so as to call him up to the England senior squad to tie him. Kane may well be happy to wait years for an England call-up so I wouldn't get too bothered about him.

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    I agree, but how would you feel if he declared for Ireland shortly?

    Personally I'd feel that as a kid of an Irish father who, despite saying he wanted to play for England as first choice, decided early in his career to play for Ireland then it passes the smell test.

    Hypothetical of course, and very fanciful, but still an interesting question I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I agree, but how would you feel if he declared for Ireland shortly?

    Personally I'd feel that as a kid of an Irish father who, despite saying he wanted to play for England as first choice, decided early in his career to play for Ireland then it passes the smell test.

    Hypothetical of course, and very fanciful, but still an interesting question I think.
    Definitely, I'd be happy to have him and certainly wouldn't hold the major English side of his identity or his youthful wavering against him. He's a pretty good player; the goal this eve was a great, forceful finish with his weaker foot from outside the box. That always helps. And he is perfectly entitled to possess split loyalties or dominant England ambitions, as Olé says. He's young, as you point out, and hasn't had three quarters worth of a career to mull over and dismiss the idea of a switch either, which presently differentiates his case from the less palatable notion of seeing potential johnny-come-lately Noble don the green. I just don't really think Kane wants to play for us at all. He keeps stating he wants to play for England, yet we keep reading these same-thing-over-again stories with no real update and apparently coming out of the blue. I don't think there is a single quote from the player himself stating he's entertaining any notion of playing for us. He's always been very clear that he's solely focused on making it with England at senior level (which is fine). It just smells like his agent is doing a lot of media work behind the scenes. It would really surprise me if he did declare for us shortly.

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    am i alone in thinking it's getting borderline embarrassing now that we've chased all these players and got none of them? we're in danger of 1am in the nightclub and pulling a vinnie jones.

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    When you go out and start begging, you can't very well complain when people start to treat you like a beggar.

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    Who says we're 'begging'? Was that the attitude towards all our 'non-Irish born' players?

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    Me, obviously. It's no reflection on the non-Irish born players, it's a reflection on the organisation and the management.

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    Hmm, don't reckon they'd agree.

    And more importantly, generally they know far better.

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    Do you think I give a **** whether John Delaney agrees with me?

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    Yeah, except I mean the people picking the teams...

    JD is a figurehead who knows relatively little...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Do you think I give a **** whether John Delaney agrees with me?

    Bad bloody attitude Charlie. How could you disagree with Delaney's view of the world? Sure isn't he always right!

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    While I think it would be a great coup if we could get Kane as it appears more and more like he would be the post-Keane striker we really need, I reckon it's highly unlikely that will happen (as Kane himself has indicated). But we could maybe use his ascent as leverage to get Patrick Bamford to reconsider his international options - perhaps if he goes to a club with Irish players, they should sing Kane's praises in his presence and constantly note that between Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane, Berahino, Rodriguez and Rooney, England should be sorted for strikers for the next decade with No. Other. Forwards. Required.

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