Séamus Coleman (D Everton b.1988)

**SkStu** · 18/10/2010, 4:58 PM

you know the natives are getting restless when theres talk of 4231.....

**geysir** · 18/10/2010, 6:08 PM

It's the boards equivalent of a mexican wave.

**backstothewall** · 18/10/2010, 10:38 PM

We've been playing 4231 since Trap took over. Nothing like that team, but with Robbie Keane dropping off the front man, Whelan and Andrews both holding the centre, and the wide men pushed on, are we really playing

---------- Given --------------
O'Shea Dunne St. Ledger Kilbane
Lawrence Whelan Andrews Duff
----- Keane ----- Doyle ------

or

---------- Given --------------
O'Shea Dunne St. Ledger Kilbane
------ Whelan Andrews --------
Lawrence --Keane -------- Duff
------------- Doyle -------------

None of which has anything to do with Seamus Coleman at all, so bringing it back to the point, would we be better trying him out in his O'Sheas position where he will be more natural, or the right wing where he played for Everton against Liverpool? The wing is probably where we could do with the cover, and any defensive vulnerabilities in his game are obviously less likely to be exposed further up the park.

**shellyriver** · 19/10/2010, 10:04 AM

It might sound like hyperbole - but is ex Sligo Rovers player Seamus Coleman, simply the most attack minded Irish player in the English league? With the exception of Doyle and Duff on their good days -- there is simply no Irish player as dynamic as the Killybegs warrior. He has played as a defender and winger and gets forward to supply and score goals -- at the highest level in English football. What more do you need to do to merit a place in the Irish team. He must get a run out in the Norway friendly and display his credentials.

**Predator** · 19/10/2010, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by shellyriver

It might sound like hyperbole - but is ex Sligo Rovers player Seamus Coleman, simply the most attack minded Irish player in the English league? With the exception of Doyle and Duff on their good days -- there is simply no Irish player as dynamic as the Killybegs warrior. He has played as a defender and winger and gets forward to supply and score goals -- at the highest level in English football. What more do you need to do to merit a place in the Irish team. He must get a run out in the Norway friendly and display his credentials.

Séamus is simply fearless and I'm glad that Moyes is now willing to trust him - he's come a long way from his baptism of fire in Lisbon.

**Stuttgart88** · 19/10/2010, 1:07 PM

My neighour is an Evertonian and was at the game on Sunday. He said Coleman played really well and has a superb first touch.

**tetsujin1979** · 19/10/2010, 2:46 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Séamus is simply fearless and I'm glad that Moyes is now willing to trust him - he's come a long way from his baptism of fire in Lisbon.

Just not in defence.

**TrapAPony** · 19/10/2010, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by shellyriver

What more do you need to do to merit a place in the Irish team.

He needs to be a mostly unused sub for Hull or play for Derby County.

**shellyriver** · 19/10/2010, 3:54 PM

Yeah, maybe a few sessions on the sunbed and a bleaching of his trestles might also garner further attention from Trap whilst knocking about those illustrious clubs near at the Pennines

**Docboy** · 19/10/2010, 4:33 PM

Lads he's definitely gonna get his chance, lets be fair to Trap he still hasn't even started that many games in the PL. Yet, undoubtedly, it's a measure of our need for optimism that everyone is clammering for him to get a chance at the minute. He certainly has the attributes to trouble any defence: good touch, low centre of gravity, strength and pace.

**tricky_colour** · 19/10/2010, 4:39 PM

I have not really seen much of him apart from his run last weekend but I was impressed with what I saw.
Trying to think of who his determination reminds me of

**tricky_colour** · 19/10/2010, 4:44 PM

He made Premiership reporter team of the week here, not bad going really, they should know their stuff!!

http://football.fanhouse.co.uk/2010/...-derby-triump/

**Sullivinho** · 19/10/2010, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by Docboy

Lads he's definitely gonna get his chance, lets be fair to Trap he still hasn't even started that many games in the PL. Yet, undoubtedly, it's a measure of our need for optimism that everyone is clammering for him to get a chance at the minute. He certainly has the attributes to trouble any defence: good touch, low centre of gravity, strength and pace.

Indeed. He'll be impossible to ignore anyway if he keeps this up.

**Predator** · 19/10/2010, 8:54 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Just not in defence.

That's true. Moyes has openly criticised Coleman's defending in the past, although it could be argued that he faces more competition for the right back slot, with Neville, Hibbert and Heitinga ahead of him.

**shellyriver** · 20/10/2010, 12:23 AM

It's not that hard to pick the country's top 11 form players.

Coleman, is at present, the form Irish player in the Premiership. He's being doing it for two seasons, with exception of Lisbon game and a few iffy calls for penos -- he was central to Blackpool's promotion and has been a new creative power-house for Everton.

It's nothing new. Up here in Sligo and anyone who supports the League of Ireland has seen him literally slice through defences. He's just achieving recognition at highest level in England.

Level-headed guy, with great attitude and will to win. If Coleman doesn't get a start in the Norway game -- Trapp, along with a translator, he should be handed blue glasses and stick.

**Jicked** · 20/10/2010, 9:16 AM

Literally slice through defences? Sure it wasn't Limerick and not Sligo he was playing for?

**tetsujin1979** · 20/10/2010, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by shellyriver

It's not that hard to pick the country's top 11 form players.

Coleman, is at present, the form Irish player in the Premiership. He's being doing it for two seasons, with exception of Lisbon game and a few iffy calls for penos -- he was central to Blackpool's promotion and has been a new creative power-house for Everton.

It's nothing new. Up here in Sligo and anyone who supports the League of Ireland has seen him literally slice through defences. He's just achieving recognition at highest level in England.

Level-headed guy, with great attitude and will to win. If Coleman doesn't get a start in the Norway game -- Trapp, along with a translator, he should be handed blue glasses and stick.

I keep saying this, Coleman hasn't done enough yet to suggest he should start ahead of any of the regular right fulls (O'Shea, Kelly, Foley) and is not as good a wingers as those ahead of him in the squad (McGeady, Lawrence, Fahey). He should be in the squad, but he's not going to be a regular starter for Ireland yet.

**gastric** · 20/10/2010, 9:54 AM

Tets, your point is valid, but the reason we all want him to play against Norway is because he lacks inhibition and attacks at will. This is in contrast to the conservative and boring style Trap advocates and would excite any fan.

**drummerboy** · 20/10/2010, 9:54 AM

If Coleman is to play right full for Ireland he needs a run of games in that position for Everton. His defending is a little kamakazi and he still has a lot to learn defensively. However he is an exciting prospect, especially when attacking. At the moment, I think O’Shea, Kelly and Foley are ahead of him.

**geysir** · 20/10/2010, 10:01 AM

I doubt he will start the game but I would be disappointed if he didn't start the 2nd half or the last 30mins. He has pushed himself into the reckoning for a squad place.